Nobody cooler - Dean Martin Discussion

[–] BeaSouth (2777) 2 years ago

Ryan Gosling’s pretty cool

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[–] ChipDouglas (1602) 2 years ago

lol

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[–] SandyR (7341) 2 years ago

I'm not disagreeing, but how so?

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[–] BeaSouth (2777) 2 years ago

This scene with Dave Bautista
https://youtu.be/9jCjB-hFhWk

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[–] SandyR (7341) 2 years ago

That is a very cool performance. Bautista didn't do too bad a job either. The whole movie is vastly underrated.

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[–] BeaSouth (2777) 2 years ago

Hard to top Dean Martin cool. What was it about him that caused you to start this thread out of the blue? Did you see an old movie of his or something?

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[–] SandyR (7341) 2 years ago

YouTube recommended a concert from the 70s and I was kind of in awe of how well he handled the crowd. And I've always been a fan to some degree.

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[–] BeaSouth (2777) 2 years ago

Well, nice job on this thread. You brought the guy back to relevance for a few days and the responses to your OP now dwarf every other thread on Dino’s page. It’s funny how certain topics gather steam. I love topics like this because they allow people to chat with a little respite from without rancor and politics. Good talking to you Sandy.

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[–] mikethemartian (6061) 2 years ago

I always enjoy him.

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[–] April-151-CT (10210) 2 years ago

https://c.tenor.com/11dYO5SyMdEAAAAd/dean-martin-glasses.gif

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[–] FilmBuff (6684) 2 years ago

He's at the top of the cool list, for sure. Someone below mentioned Gosling, and he's up there, but there was only one Dino.

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[–] Otter (24464) 2 years ago

Sinatra was cooler by the standards of Rat Pack era cool! Martin played sloppy drunk for most of his career, nothing is less cool than being sloppy drunk.

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[–] OnanTheBarbarian (10328) 2 years ago

I wouldn't say Martin was a sloppy drunk. He was a very functional drunk. That's a bit refreshing these days when anybody who drinks anything is portrayed as a danger to himself and others.

Yeah, he always had that slight slur in his voice.

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[–] Otter (24464) 2 years ago

In real life he was a functional drunk, but when he performed as a singer he'd play a sloppy drunk for comic effect, it was part of his schtick. IMHO this really reduced his cool factor.

But his act as a singer has been forgotten by anyone who isn't older than dirt, only the films where he played a cool guy remain. So, now maybe he's remembered as cool, when he's remembered at all...

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[–] OnanTheBarbarian (10328) 2 years ago

I don't remember him from when he was active, only in old movies and tv reruns.

But I've never seen him falling down drunk. He was always tipsy but in control. I mean he never tripped or messed up his lines. He played it smooth. How was he sloppy?

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[–] Otter (24464) 2 years ago

Oh, when he was performing as a singer, his between-song patter was delivered as fake-drunk comedy, he'd fake being the kind of drunk who was cheerfully tipsy, swaying a bit, and getting words wrong, but not falling down or puking.

Still, that kind of comedy has totally gone out of fashion.

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[–] OnanTheBarbarian (10328) 2 years ago

Okay, I get it. I recall the swaying. Still, it was a rather unique shtick. I can't think of another performer who built that into his onscreen persona. I'm not sure it was fake though. The guy was probably a raging alcoholic.

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[–] Otter (24464) 2 years ago

I read a biography of the guy years ago, I don't remember why, I was never a fan. But apparently while the guy drank like all the Rat Pack guys did, he wasn't a hopeless alcoholic. He was very much in control of himself, and I've heard that he was the one Rat Packer who wasn't afraid of Sinatra, and who wasn't "owned" by him. Which is the one thing I've heard about the man that's actually kind of cool.

At least, Martin wasn't an alcoholic at the height of his career. But by all accounts, when the man's eldest son died, all the joy went out of his life and he drank more.

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[–] AckbarsRevenge (3554) 2 years ago

"cheerfully tipsy, swaying a bit, and getting words wrong, but not falling down or puking."
I guess that was Oliver Reed's part.

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[–] Otter (24464) 2 years ago

You forgot the punching!

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[–] R_Kane (15828) 5 months ago

And yet alleged humor based on drug (over)use is still popular. The difference in public acceptance is not the intoxication, it is the intoxicant.

Also, Dino was the only one who warned Frank that JFK was only using him.

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[–] mtxmind (2981) 2 years ago

Anyone who can keep their cool working with Jerry Lewis for so long......well, that's about as cool as cool can get!!

My dad liked his singing more than Sinatra.

And a Millenial Afghan/Muslim kid I worked with years ago was a HUGE fan of his!!!!

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[–] GlenEllyn (21078) 2 years ago

I too, like his singing more that Sinatra.

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[–] OnanTheBarbarian (10328) 2 years ago

And a Millenial Afghan/Muslim kid I worked with years ago was a HUGE fan of his!!!!

It's great when you meet someone who steps outside of cultural and generational stereotypes. I know a young black millennial who hates rap and listens to Italian opera. Us individualists are still out there.

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[–] [deleted] 2 years ago

my mother had a thing for the guy.

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[–] PersistentViewer (1800) 2 years ago

Wasn't his nickname "The King of Cool"? Even Frank Sinatra said there's nobody cooler than Dean Martin.

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