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Why do female porn stars believe that they are empowering themselves?


It seems that I hear this idea perpetuated quite frequently these days, whether it's coming from Jenna Jameson or the recently outed Duke University porn star, Belle Knox. Women like these love to claim to be feminists who think it is an empowering act to have sex for money on camera and honestly, I must say, my B.S. detector goes crazy every time I hear this kind of talk.

Do these women not know how men think? Are these women completely unaware of what goes on in the mind of a man when he watches porn? Allow me to shed some light on this, for those of you who have been living under a rock your entire lives; when a man watches porn, he's not thinking to himself: "Oh, wow, look at how well this woman is orally pleasing that guy. I have so much respect for her right now." This, rather, is much closer to the truth: "That's it, sweetheart, choke on that dick and swallow that *beep* cum like the little whore that you are." By the way, yes, I include myself in this category, so there is no reason to assume that I'm taking some kind of moral high ground - I am not. However, since I know that it is wrong to do this, I have been watching much less porn as of late, slowly kicking the habit until I simply don't care about it any more.

The point I'm making is this: if that is what's going on in the minds of all men who watch porn, then how can these women possibly be empowering themselves? It doesn't make one damn bit of sense. There is no logic to it whatsoever. The only argument that these women seem to be clinging to is that for so long in patriarchal societies, female sexual expression was considered taboo, so the fact that they can now express themselves sexually in public and have it be generally accepted by society, is liberating. This concept alone is not flawed, but unfortunately, there is one very important detail female porn stars are ignoring - they are getting paid to have sex.

That's right - they collect a paycheck for having sex; they have sex for material gain. This is the dictionary definition of a prostitute; a whore. By the way, this applies to male porn stars as well; whether you are a man or a woman, if you get paid money to have sex, you are a whore. If only these people, especially the women, just admitted that this is what they are, I might actually have a little bit of respect for them. Just be honest with yourselves and don't lie to yourselves like Belle Knox does when she spouts nonsense like, "I'm not selling my body; I'm selling an experience!" No, my dear, stop sugar-coating it and using euphemisms. You are selling your body. That's the whole point. That's why porn exists and that's why men watch it.

The bottom line is that there is no porn industry without the degradation of women; these two things go hand-in-hand and they always will. Wake up, female porn stars. It's time to put an end to your delusional thinking.

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> Women like these love to claim to be feminists who think it is an empowering act to have sex for money on camera ..

Which active porn star since the 90s has ever claimed to be a feminist? That would be a safe career killer these days.

Sure many pioneer porn stars have done that but was when feminism was young and sex-positive (in the original sense, not the modern "infiltrate and destroy" sense). And some retired porn stars joined feminism when they were disappointed with porn ... even more joined a religious club.

So for starters, I believe your argument is based on nothing. Empowering means something different to everyone.

> Do these women not know how men think? Are these women completely unaware of what goes on in the mind of a man when he watches porn?

More interesting that you have such accurate knowledge of the extreme fringe thinking you inscribe to men. I would say that you are either a feminist (who always knew that men eat babies and cut women's breasts off) or a psychopath who in all seriousness believes that men actually consistently believe such things.

> That's right - they collect a paycheck for having sex; they have sex for material gain.

Ah and here comes the justification why you think it's ok that you wish to hurt them! They are greedy and slutty and deserve your punishment being bestowed upon them.

And finally:
> The point I'm making is this: if that is what's going on in the minds of all men who watch porn, then how can these women possibly be empowering themselves?

The questions answers itself very directly. With the wrong presumption gone, it is easy to answer...

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...when a man watches porn, he's not thinking to himself: "Oh, wow, look at how well this woman is orally pleasing that guy. I have so much respect for her right now.....By the way, yes, I include myself in this category.....If only these people, especially the women, just admitted that this is what they are, I might actually have a little bit of respect for them."LMAO! No, you won't. By your own admission, this is what you'll most likely think: "That's it, sweetheart, choke on that dick and swallow that *beep* cum like the little whore that you are." In other words, if you have no respect for what they do, then why in the crap do you even care about what they think in the first place? Not all pornstars think this way. Each one has a different experience than the other. Especially since you made it specific to scenes involving a penis. Meaning apparently that if a female pornstar mainly does lesbian scenes, the less of a whore she feels.

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I admit to being flawed. We men don't think clearly when we need to ejaculate - the need to release those fluids from our bodies often clouds our better judgement.

I don't "Wish to hurt" anybody. Also, it's not necessarily that I care what these performers think, I'm just very interested in it. I find the psychology of people like this fascinating.

Hey quarrion-1, are you implying that most female porn stars today will readily admit to being whores who are degrading themselves? Because I think they would be a little reluctant to do so.

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Fascination is different from criticism. Your OP is mainly the latter.

The key in your stance is that whoring is automatically not an empowering thing. Yet you never even explained WHY. Here is where your analysis falls apart:Do these women not know how men think? Are these women completely unaware of what goes on in the mind of a man when he watches porn?Your post is about what female pornstars believe, yet you chose to analyze specifically their male audience's minds instead. What makes you think that they give a crap about what you and other men think? The empowerment they speak of does not come from you or any man. It comes from their own satisfaction of using sex for their personal gain (fortune, fame, fantasy, etc...).

With a former contract star like Jenna, the psychology is the fact that she got people draining their wallets specifically for her. In this sense, she's the one playing men like puppets just by performing sex acts on camera. No matter what goes through your mind while watching her, she still got you hooked. As by your own admission, women like her fascinate you. But to her, you're just one of many living ATMs who don't even need touching. I've always found it funny that some people think getting paid for sex is more pathetic than actually paying for sex (or, in most cases, paying just to watch sex on video). Talk about being delusional.

But like I said, everyone has a different experience. For example, I got a feeling that most people who criticize Knox's words on Facial Abuse (renamed facef ucking.com) haven't even seen the scene itself and just assume that she didn't get her comeuppance. The goal of that site is the total dehumanization of whores. The male performers fulfill the fantasy of men who yearn to destroy female pornstars' perceived empowerment (perhaps you'll like it). One of the most fascinating episodes is Gina Lynn's, a prime example of a pornstar who has gotten some mainstream exposure and gained many fans. Hence, the guys made sure that she's completely reduced to feeling worse than a common street hooker by the end of the shoot. Yet even though all these performers got paid, which of them constantly get criticized for it? The ones w/ a vagina, of course! Because, apparently, the men who mercilessly smacked them around and pumped their throats full of dick until they cried don't need to be defensive and "delusional" about being paid to do so at all. It's okay to be a whore as long as you have a penis.

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> Also, it's not necessarily that I care what these performers think, I'm just very interested in it.

Forgive me but that is a blatant contradiction. Which of the two is it?

And how do you think you could get a consistent answer to this? There perhaps nearly as many reasons and ways of thinking about it as there are porn stars.

> Hey quarrion-1, are you implying that most female porn stars today will readily admit to being whores who are degrading themselves?

No ... the more well known porn stars are pretty professional about it. So they would not admit to being feminists as that would be a big, big buzz killer (unless you are the Ms Lohan of porn, Sierra Sinn and you toggle between being a conservative Christians, a druggo, or doing a 5 guy gangbang). I think most would regard themselves as a form of performer or actor or artist.

Many porn stars refer to themselves as whores (some of my favourites as Stevie or Dana Vespoli have done so) .. but given that 'whore' colloquially not used for a calling but as an invective, most resort to the more harmless credo that they love what they do. Which is pretty much what Belle Knox does very skillfully.

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"I've always found it funny that some people think getting paid for sex is more pathetic than actually paying for sex (or, in most cases, paying just to watch sex on video). Talk about being delusional."

I wouldn't know - I've never paid for sex or porn. But I agree with the sentiment.

"Yet even though all these performers got paid, which of them constantly get criticized for it? The ones w/ a vagina, of course! Because, apparently, the men who mercilessly smacked them around and pumped their throats full of dick until they cried don't need to be defensive and "delusional" about being paid to do so at all. It's okay to be a whore as long as you have a penis."

You must have missed the part of my post where I specifically say that whether you're a man or a woman, if you get paid to have sex, you are a whore. Skim through it again.

"Forgive me but that is a blatant contradiction. Which of the two is it?"

What I mean to say is that I don't really have an emotional investment in what they think - I just have a desire to understand it.

"I think most would regard themselves as a form of performer or actor or artist."

Performer? Yes. Actor or artist? Please. Don't make me laugh.

"... most resort to the more harmless credo that they love what they do. Which is pretty much what Belle Knox does very skillfully."

I'm sure she loves what she does, but just because something makes you feel good, doesn't mean it's good for you - or anyone else. Belle Knox is still lying to herself when she calls what she does an artistic outlet. Porn is not art - never was, never will be. She is sugar coating it. To get paid money to have sex is to be a whore. End of story. Just admit it like other performers.

By the way, I have seen her Facial Abuse video. I don't see why any woman with the slightest amount of self respect would ever participate in something like that. Belle Knox likes to think she's smart just because she's a university student but the truth is, she's a complete idiot and she hasn't the slightest idea of what she's talking about. I'm shocked that her parents haven't yet dragged her kicking and screaming away from the video set.

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But to her, you're just one of many living ATMs who don't even need touching.






I'm not so sure about porn empowering women, but do agree that women in this sort of field do tend to get more respect than some people realize.

In the book Nine Lives: From Stripper to School Teacher, Lynn Snowden took on several different jobs and wrote about her different experiences. She was of course a stripper and a school teacher, but she was also a roadie for Skid Row and worked in a factory. I saw her speak a few years ago, and she said something that I always found interesting. In one of her jobs, she worked as a cocktail waitress, and said she actually got more respect when she was a stripper. Being a cocktail waitress was actually far more degrading; the men treated her like a piece of meat, but when she was a stripper they treated her like a goddess.




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