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"..textbook definition of an alienated sociopath.”


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I disagree, I always thought he was a textbook example of narcissistic personality disorder.

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Are there any textbooks on Venn diagrams?

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But wouldn’t a narcissist be unaware of his differences? He seems both to me but I know little about this.

I understand sociopaths have an understanding that must people have empathy and they use that knowledge to manipulate. That is precisely what he did so many times when he guilted women into accepting drinks that many of them didn’t want. They took them to avoid hurting his feelings.

Then there’s the phone convo with Constandt’s mother in which he admits he is a “sick man.”



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I'm gonna have to go with both sociopath and narcissistic personality disorder. From what I know a sociopath cannot feel empathy towards others, which obviously is the case with Bill. Also, he's narcissistic because not only is he extremely selfish, he thinks highly of himself.

Wow, tier 3 sex offender status for Bill Cosby. He has plummeted to the absolute bottom. This is way worse than Mel Gibson folks.

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People with narcissistic personality disorder also lack empathy, same as sociopaths. Both narcissists and sociopaths see other people as things to be used for their convenience and tossed aside when no longer useful. If either type of person decided they like drugging and raping people, neither would see anything wrong in pursuing a long-term career in drugging and raping.

I suppose the reason I think Cosby is a narcissist instead of a sociopath is the personality he displayed before the shit hit the fan, all his faux-elder statesmen bull and his pretenses of being a pundit. He didn't do all that for money, he did it for pure ego! Also, the fact that he went into showbiz, which is such a narcissist-friendly field that almost every entertainer you ever heard of has narcissistic personality disorders, or is on the narcissism spectrum.

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Good points. So what then, is the difference between the two? Obviously there is crossover and I can look it up, but I'm interested in hearing what you think.

Actually, his preaching and hubris are exactly what led to his downfall. Hannibal Buress was fed up with it and saw right through him.

I never thought BC was funny. I know millions of people did but I always wondered if they were perhaps more charmed by his ground breaking success and hanging on his every word for love of that.

I think he was simply in the right place at the right time. He was cast in I Spy in on the heels of The Civil Rights Act. I actually think he was very good in that show, but I also think it was a calculated PR move on the parts of the shows producers and NBC. He was showered in awards for it and became the darling of Hollywood. He was good, but he wasn't that good IMO. It was PR.

That adulation he received clearly went to his head but I don't think it's what made him a monster. I think he already was one, based on his sick jokes about how he treated and viewed women and girls long before he even became famous.

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The difference is a sociopath wouldn't feel alienated, or angry about it; they simply wouldn't care. But a narcissist *needs* adulation and to be well thought of and admired by others.

There are some similarities between the two, you're right about that, as well as Cosby's hubris ultimately being his downfall.

I liked him a lot in I Spy, and thought his early albums were funny. He had a style no one else did before him. I liked his whimsy.

I watched The Cosby Show reasonably often, but had mixed feelings about him on it. For instance, that line spoken to one of his kids when he said "I brought you into this world, I can take you out of it." He also otherwise struck me as being too controlling, beneath that seemingly jovial facade. Just a feeling I never could shake.

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Ew, that's so creepy. I realize that it was a joke, but one a cruel parent would make. It's also a quote I remember from a Forensic Files episode.

A guy had killed his wife bc she wanted a divorce and was seeing other guys. She came home from a date and he beat her to death and buried her in the back yard. The next day he poured concrete over the burial and made a patio. His 5 year old daughter witnessed both from an upstairs window. She didn't understand what he had done. Later, he tried to kill all the kids by setting fires on the stove and leaving the kids in the house sleeping while he went to the laundromat. The 5 year old survived with a brother. When in her 30's she finally went to the police in spite of her fear for her father. He had told her the same thing you quoted as a Cosby show line. "I brought you into the world and I can take you out." Only he wasn't kidding. So the police found some guy with this new radar detector that could find lumps and masses beneath the surface of the soil that were inconsistent. They found her body and he finally went to jail and died in prison.

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Hardly the bottom if he gets sentenced to house arrest in his palace with an army of servants.

Bottom would be ending his life at the the bottom of a prison gang bang in gen pop.

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Is gen pop anything like a jello puddin' pop?

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It's the bottom for a once upon a time huge star like Bill Cosby. He's totally shunned from Hollywood, most of his friends have left him, his high priced lawyers couldn't even save him from all the crimes he committed. He's a pariah and now has to worry about being imprisoned for the rest of his natural life..sentencing scheduled for next month. What's your next move PILL Cosby!

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It may seem like the bottom to him but it's nowhere near as low as he made all those women he drugged and raped go. I so hope he goes to Federal Prison.

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He did poots poots

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