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He just cares about money


That's all he's in the business for, each one of his movies makes hundreds of millions and yet are all complete drivel. Oh, and I don't want to hear bullcrap like "he just wants to make entertainment" because we all know that's not true.
Especially since it's perfectly possible for a movie to be entertaining and not crap to the core. Several examples: James Cameron did it with the Terminator movies and Avatar, Spielberg did it with the Indiana Jones saga, Jon Favreau and Joss Whedon did it with Marvel, Christopher Nolan did it with Batman, Peter Berg did it with Battleship, Zack Snyder did it with 300, Watchmen, Suckerpunch, Man of steel, BvS and Suicide Squad, Justin Lin and James Wan did it with Fast & Furious, Paul Anderson did it with Resident Evil, and Guillermo Del Torro did it with Pacific Rim. What all these movies have in common is that they're legitimately good unlike Bays films, have coherent and intelligent plots (again, unlike Bays), likable and enjoyable characters we can all relate to (where's characters in Bays movies are just stereotypes), coherent and competent action sequences which are easy to follow and are convincing (once again, Bay can't do that), and the special effects take a back seat to the plot and aren't overdone CGI and explosion messes unlike in Bays films. Most importantly: The other movies don't resort to being sexist and racist consistently throughout the running time, both genders and all ethnicities are dignified, unlike in Bays movies which do the opposite!

Rant over...

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That's all he's in the business for, each one of his movies makes hundreds of millions and yet are all complete drivel.


So let me get this straight: you, personally, subjectively, think that ALL of his films are 'drivel', thus the absolute truth is that he only cares about money.

What a bunch of hateful, ignorant bullcrap, pal. Get real, why don't ya.


First: you, unlike the Bay fans like me, obviously know NOTHING about the guy. Second: you are clearly not aware of the fact that every single person who had worked with Bay is praising the guy for his constant dedication to his craft, his tireless work on set and his desire to always deliver an entertaining movie. Second, Spielberg himself called him one of the best action directors ever, Neil Blomkamp made a trip to LA a few years ago just because he wanted to meet Bay and tell him how much he loves his movies. Nolan is also a fan, George Lucas is a fan, Joseph Kahn is also a fan. And the list goes on and on.

A filmmaker who cares ONLY about money will never be praised that way by other filmmakers.

So there you go.

By the way EVERY single filmmaker cares, to a degree, about money. From indie directors like Kevin Smith, Adam Green (they said it themselves) to big-budget directors like Bay. The fact that you complain about people caring about money clearly goes to show that you don't know how the film business works. It's called film BUSINESS for a reason, pal.



Oh, by the way, did you just said that Suicide Squad, and Paul Anderson's Resident Evil flicks have INTELLIGENT, COHERENT plots and that are better than Bay's films??????????????????????????????????????????????

Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? Are you high or something?

Are you for real???? No, this is a serious question. I've never seen something so stupid before. Wow!!


Sorry, we're done here. Whatever credibility you had, it just went right out the window. The fact that you praised movies like Battleship, Suicide Squad, Pacific Rim, Resident Evil and pretty much dismissed ALL of Bay's films, including his classic movies The Rock and Armageddon, both included in the Criterion Collection, goes to show that you are either just trolling this board or that you really have some messed up opinions on films. To say the least.

I can literally counter every single negative thing you said about Bay and his films, but after you mentioned 'Resident Evil' and 'intelligent plots', you basically sabotaged your entire thread.

How embarrassing.



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So let me get this straight: you, personally, subjectively, think that ALL of his films are 'drivel', thus the absolute truth is that he only cares about money.

What a bunch of hateful, ignorant bullcrap, pal. Get real, why don't ya.

Ha! Are you sure I'm the one needing to get real? I'm guessing you probably haven't even seen any of his movies. LOL

A filmmaker who cares ONLY about money will never be praised that way by other filmmakers.

What is there to be praised, dumbing things down for the masses? LMFAO and are even aware of how he treats his cast + crew? He told Ben Affleck to "Shut the *beep* Up!", how does that deserve parise?

Oh, by the way, did you just said that Suicide Squad, and Paul Anderson's Resident Evil flicks have INTELLIGENT, COHERENT plots and that are better than Bay's films??????????????????????????????????????????????

Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? Are you high or something?

They're more intelligent and coherent than Bays movies.

The fact that you praised movies like Battleship, Suicide Squad, Pacific Rim, Resident Evil and pretty much dismissed ALL of Bay's films, including his classic movies The Rock and Armageddon, both included in the Criterion Collection, goes to show that you are either just trolling this board or that you really have some messed up opinions on films. To say the least.

No. You're the one who's trolling, the fact that you've replied to all my posts on this board shows that you're stalking me. I find that rather disturbing!!!

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I'm guessing you probably haven't even seen any of his movies


Huh? What kind of a weak, child-like response is that? Look at my posts here, look at my post history. Do I look like a guy who's not familiar with Bay's movies?

If that's the way you want to conduct yourself on IMDb you ain't gonna go far. They will eat you up and spit you up, boyo.

Grow some spine and learn to at least look like you know what you're doing here.



They're more intelligent and coherent than Bays movies.


"IN MY CHILDISH, UTTERLY UNEDUCATED AND COMPLETELY SUBJECTIVE OPINION, they're more intelligent and coherent than Bays movies."

There, I fixed it for you.



the fact that you've replied to all my posts on this board shows that you're stalking me.


Ok, clearly you're just a kid. You can't be a grown up and sound so silly. By the way, learn the definition of 'stalking'. As you can see I've only replied to your posts on THIS board. A board that I visit frequently, as you can see by my post history. Just because you've either deleted all your other comments on IMDb or this is your first time posting, that's entirely your own problem. A stalker is someone who goes after you on every single board you post.

Do I do that? No.

So shut the hell up and go to bed already.



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I enjoy most of these movies too (as you can probably guess by my avatar, I'm a Resident Evil fan), but they're far from flawless and many of them are equally as flawed as Bay's films, if not more.
Zack Snyder's movies rely heavily on visual effects as do Fast & Furious, Resident Evil, Marvel and Pacific Rim. Fast & Furious also has plenty of stereotypes and unrealistic action, and Sucker Punch sexually objectifies almost all of it's female characters. All the flaws I've listed here is what you just criticized Bay for. Battleship? No, just no!

Michael Bay's films aren't perfect, but most succeed in being enjoyable pop corn entertainment and don't try to be anything more than that. And his flaws are no worse than most other directors of his genre

You have some serious double standards going on here!

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Newsflash - You HAVE to make movies for money, its how the industry works. But given that you're clearly a troll not much point trying to argue with you.

COOKIES AND MILK!-Ed

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Peeps, just report all of gabottle's posts. Take a look at his post history. This is clearly a troll account.

The admins are quick when it comes to purely troll accounts. They will delete it in no time. The more he posts the worse it gets for him. Let him post and then report his comments.


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The troll label is just designed to create an illusion that you've won the argument without actually addressing any points.

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