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All due respect to Chadwick Boseman but...


... the media keep commenting on how he was the first black actor to play a major superhero.

Wesley Snipes must be choked. He played Blade over 20 years ago. Although it was mostly marketed as an action/horror movie, its comic book origins were made clear in reviews and marketing.

He was also the leading man in decent action movies like Passenger 57 and Drop Zone.

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BP grossed ten times as much as blade

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Does the gross change that Snipes played Blade 20 years ago? I don't understand your point.

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well, the reason BP was a "major superhero" is because it was far more popular

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I can see that.

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I can see that.

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I can see that.

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yeah, i wasnt trying to be rude or anything

a good analogy: "mac and me" is not as famous as "ET"

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I didn't think you were. I missed the word "major" in the original post, which caused me to misunderstand your post.

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i had never heard of BP before the movie was released

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i had never heard of Blade before the movie was released!

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ditto

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I don't disagree with your comment, but context counts here.

i. Blade made about 3x its budget world wide which is still respectable by today's standards.

ii. Black Panther benefited from a built in audience up front... the character was introduced as part of the much bigger MCU. It had the full weight of the now successful Marvel Studios behind it to promote it. It also benefited in a big way from the media hype praising it as some sort of black breakthrough.

iii. Blade came at a time when comic book movies had yet to become the norm. It was also rated R.

So, I think Wesley Snipes would have the right to call BS with today's media lauding Boseman's BP as a trailblazer.





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all fair points

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Blade is a better film too!

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agreed, but marvel is better at selling their crap these days

Besides, the way they tried to differentiate the bp as being way more woke than blade is by having mostly black cast and black director (no white man can tell us what to do!) lol

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I enjoyed Blade more than Black Panther, but up until you mentioned it, I don't know if I would have ever thought of Blade as a Superhero.

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I think of him more as a "comic book character" than I do a "superhero."

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All due respect to Chadwick Boseman but...
posted an hour ago by nightwriter (164)
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... the media keep commenting on how he was the first black actor to play a major superhero.
You are purposefully misquoting the media to make a point that YOU want to express. Most of the major media outlets say it exactly right.

Wesley Snipes is not choked because Chadwick, when he did his press tours and interviews, always spoke about Blade as well as Meteor Man preceding his movie. Sadly Shaq's Steel got no love. 😭

Chadwick also highlighted Wonder Woman as the movie that should be honored for female representation in the modern age that preceded the strong female representation in Black Panther with their estrogen cast of characters.

When Blade premiered few even knew he was a Marvel property let alone a "Super"-hero. Snipes hasn't been overlooked and disparaged in the media either.

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That bit 'first black actor to play a major superhero' is a direct quote.

You are purposefully misrepresenting me.

Snipes hasn't disparaged Chadwick afaik. Why would he? When I say he must be choked, I'm speaking metaphorically to make a point about Blade.

I said nothing at all about Boseman's comments, feelings or position. I didn't say that Snipes had been overlooked or disparaged. Your comments are irrelevant to my post.

For the benefit of others reading this thread though:

When Blade came out, his origin as a Marvel character/superhero was mentioned in most major reviews. Check out the external reviews on imdb for confirmation. Apparently, it was Stan Lee himself who led the charge to have the character brought to the screen specifically for the reason that he was African American. (James Berardinelli)

The movie though -- as I've noted already -- was marketed more for its action and horror elements. And because it was rated R it wasn't seen as a superhero movie.

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[–] nightwriter (167) 6 hours ago
That bit 'first black actor to play a major superhero' is a direct quote.

You are purposefully misrepresenting me.
How can the "media" have a direct quote? Did you mean to state someone in the media? Just provide the multiple links or quotes from the "media" and you won't be misrepresenting yourself.

Also you have a multiplier in your statement.
... the media keep commenting on how he was the first black actor to play a major superhero.
Now you have the burden of quotes and links that require timestamping. Supposedly now the "media", which we are to assume is more than one source, have done it not just once but multiple times and they continue doing it even when called out. WOW!! The "media" just keep on keeping on. 😎

No one suggested Snipes disparaged Chadwick. Chadwick continued to readily acknowledge Snipes and Blade as being out-front well before Black Panther. Boseman's words are a direct counterpoint to the media apparently shading Snipes and Blade. Blade and BP share an intimate space in this conversation as it was Snipes who had for years had the rights to a BP movie that he wanted to helm before Blade in fact.

When Blade came out neither the industry nor moviegoers ever really associated the movie as a "Super"-hero film let alone Marvel Superhero film. (Marvel received such a pittance that it had to be one of the reasons why they decided to dive in with their own studio. Blade was viewed and accepted just as you stated, " Although it was mostly marketed as an action/horror movie, its comic book origins were made clear in reviews and marketing."

Ebert and Siskel absolutely fawned over the film with Ebert highlighting Blade as one of the bevy of films in the Superhero genre that had burst onto the big screen.

On a side note one of the best reviews about Blade is done for Blade II by this Youtubber Patrick Wilhelm: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnWGvuBE5lI

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Even Michael Jai White played Spawn. People are giving Black Panther too much credit.

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I've seen bp marvel cartoon back in the day, it wasn't that great - ironman and xmen were way better in terms of script/story/etc (they were shown in the same time period). The real selling point of bp now is the cultural move towards woke crap - that's why Hollywood is spamming us with woke remakes/reboots/etc. Kids love this crap. In addition, marvel films have been dominating the box office for a while now - and they now seem to appeal to the kids and adults alike. Still - I think the first few xmen films were better than bp, yet they sold way less tickets, how is that? I think wokeness is the answer.

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I mean, we could even get technical and count Blankman and Hancock as superheroes. They're only claiming Black Panther as the first because it wasn't an awful movie.

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You're right. Totally forgot about that flick.

Also Halle Berry played Catwoman. Erm... Never mind.

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i forgot about Spawn, too

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Hey, it counts.

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Good point ... not to mention Demolition Man wasn't it? But I hated Blade though.

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