Just pretend that the exact same scenario happened only it was Chuck Norris instead of Alec Baldwin. How would you have reacted? My guess is your position would have taken a complete 180.
The truth is Alec violated even the basic rules of firearm safety and he should be prosecuted for murder.
"The truth is Alec violated even the basic rules of firearm safety and he should be prosecuted for murder."
I agree 100%. But sadly since he is a far left liberal he will pay a fine and that's it. And with all his money he will have learned nothing from this.
Exactly and if he had been a conservative then he would be sitting in solitary confinement right now.
shareI wish ALL conservatives were in solitary confinement. Oh, the thought of that...!
Wow, so you’re pretty much a Nazi. Thanks for being so open and honest about yourself.
shareI would've thought that conservatives were Nazis, while everyone else was the Allies.
Why DO conservatives try to make non-conservatives into the enemy? Why is that?
You’ve got that ass backwards, the modern day Democrat party is pretty much the Nazis and your cult leader Biden would be a modern day Adolf Hitler if he actually had a cognitively functional brain.
shareI always thought that Donald Trump was just like Hitler, or at least Hitler if he had a lobotomy.
I’m sure that’s what your cult told you but that doesn’t make it so.
shareBut I get the impression from Republicans that they're all anti-vax, anti-mask, ultra-pro-freedom and anti-science and Trump MAGAts, and would throw away the rule of law if they could. That's not cool in my book.
More lies from your cult. No one is “anti-vax” some people are “anti-vax mandates” considering the mandates are completely political moves (not to mention unnecessary) designed to punish people who didn’t vote for Biden.
shareThey're designed to curb an epidemic and save lives, actually. Seems a lot of conservatives want to die of covid, I say let them.
As for the term "cult", I despise the British Conservative Party (or Tories as we all call them) and yet there's no valid political alternative that could get into power anytime soon, thanks to the Tories. Do you like the sound of them?
That’s what your cult says they are supposed to do, but as you know you can’t believe a word out of their mouths because they lie continuously to advance their radical agenda. And we have had more covid deaths under Biden than we had under Trump and Biden had 3 vaccines which Trump didn’t. (It is because of Trump that we have them however).
I don't know why I bother talking politics, sometimes. It's all about point-scoring and bashing the opposition these days. Maybe not even "these days", I think it's ALWAYS been about that instead of, you know, ACTUALLY LEADING THE COUNTRY and DOING WHAT'S BEST FOR THE PEOPLE!
Best for the people??? HAHAHAHAHAHA, your cult has no interest in what’s “best for the people”, all you care about is yourselves. You people should be locked up, away from civilized society.
shareI'm talking about both the Republicans and the Democrats here, they're both as bad as each other.
I'm not even American, so I'm not part of any "cult", as you keep saying.
I’m no fan of the Republicans but for the most part they care about the American people and want to create a just, fair and prosperous society for all Americans. The DemoKKKrats are a bunch of evil cultists who want to destroy this once great country all for their own benefit and they don’t give a good fuck who gets hurt in the process.
shareWhat if it happened to Betty White?
If this happened to Betty White, there would be mobs with pitchforks and torches demanding the armorer and the assistant director's head for putting this poor sweet woman through that.
The truth is Alec violated even the basic rules of firearm safety and he should be prosecuted for murder.
It wasn’t a reckless stunt, it was firearm negligence and Alec Baldwin is at fault. It was third degree murder and he should be prosecuted and convicted. Guns are a huge responsibility, you have to be beyond careful with them because shit like this can happen, there are safety protocols that are enforced at every gun range and it includes making sure that you are not pointing a loaded firearm at a person.
shareThat's why there were at least three levels of safety - all of which failed.
In any case, New Mexico has what's called an Excusable Homicide law.
Homicide is excusable in the following cases:
A. when committed by accident or misfortune in doing any lawful act, by lawful means, with usual and ordinary caution and without any unlawful intent; or
B. when committed by accident or misfortune in the heat of passion, upon any sudden and sufficient provocation, or upon a sudden combat, if no undue advantage is taken, nor any dangerous weapon used and the killing is not done in a cruel or unusual manner.
I never said others were not at fault here but the fact remains that Baldwin is at fault
share"Ordinary caution" with regard to gun safety means it doesn't matter if it's the armorer who hands you the gun, or your own mom, or Jesus H. Christ himself, you don't take anybody's word that it's "cold". You always, always, always check it yourself before you do anything else. Baldwin violated that basic rule.
shareIn "real" life, yes. We're talking about movies. The basic rules of safety (and not just gun safety) are broken constantly to get the "shot" so to speak.
So here's the problem with your suggestion: if the actor opens the weapon and checks for himself because of gun safety rules which must never be broken, the armorer then must take the weapon back and check it himself/herself to make sure a nut job actor didn't sneak in a live round - after all, the armorer is on the hook if a weapon he/she certifies injures or kills someone. So the armorer then recertifies the weapon and hands it back to the actor, who, because of gun safety rules which must never be broken (even on a movie set with professionals to oversee the stunt), then opens the weapon to make sure the weapon is safe. The armorer then must take the weapon back because it's been opened...
Sounds like a Babylon Bee news story..
The only way of preventing this is to eliminate all real guns from movies sets and use toy weapons and CGI in post to make it look real.
A better question would be: What if Halyna Hutchins were a black woman?
shareI don't agree and I don't think he will be charged criminally at all.
shareHe may get away with what he did, but how many teens are in prison or have been sentenced to prison in the past because they were playing with a gun they believes was unloaded only to find it wasn't when they pulled the trigger and killed someone.
At the end of the day equal treatment of people would require him to be in prison. But this is America and equal treatment doesn't exist, which is why Laura Bush didn't do time when she killed someone with her car.
Do you ever get tired of politicizing everything? I mean this sincerely. It must be exhausting.
Not politicizing anything, just calling out his defenders for politicizing.
shareUmmmm? No, you politicized it.
I'm assuming Chuck Norris is a republican. I don't really care. Alec Baldwin is a twat, sure, but to make this into a left or right thing is ridiculous.
Someone died. It's gross to turn this into something political. I don't care if you are right or left wing. It's really sad.
The people defending him politicized it the minute they made excuses for him. The fact is someone is dead and it’s because Alec Baldwin ignored common sense firearm safety rules. He should be held accountable, people are only making excuses for him because he’s a DemoKKKrat libtard. If it had been Chuck Norris I guarantee you these same people would be demanding he rot in jail the rest of his life, and they would probably be laughing about it.
shareDemoKKKrat libtard
Not at all, just calling it like it is. And it's not too hard to figure out what would have happened had it been Norris. You would not be making excuses for him.
shareYou say "you" like there is only one opinion. I happen to love Chuck Norris and couldn't give a crap who he votes for. If Chuck Norris shot a gun that killed someone on set, I'd expect the same investigations afforded Baldwin, who I really don't care for, nor do I care who he votes for.
So that's me. I'm just one voice. But yeah, all people who don't think exactly the way you do are not DemoKKKrat libtard. In fact, believe it or not, there are a lot of people on here who aren't American. Gasp I know right? Guess what. We can weigh in on what we think as well. Even if we were all American, you do realize that we can all have different opinions right? You can have 200 people who all voted for the same person who will have 200 different opinions on the same topic. Why do you feel comfortable in assuming that there is one hive mind?
I've seen your comments on other posts, and I have an idea that it won't matter. The mystical left is the enemy. So don't worry about it.
Good for you, you say you would have applied the same benefit of the doubt to Chuck Norris, even though I have reason to doubt that you really would I guess I'll take your word at it. The fact is though the overwhelming majority of the DemoKKKrat cult would not have because they care more about what's good for the cult than what's right.
shareWhy is a gun on a movie set got live ammo in it?
shareExactly 💯💯💯💯
shareA ton of people from the film were partying after hours on set, and shooting live rounds at cans and bottles. Everyone of them are adults and should know better than to do that on a movie set. This is how live rounds got mixed up with the blanks. They are all guilty.
shareA young man shot three people who were harming and trying to kill him. He's on trial now.
An old man carelessly picked up a gun and began shooting it at people who were minding their own business killing a lady. He is going trick-or-treating and posing for family photos with a smile.
If people cannot see through the veil with these kinds of situations there is no helping them.
And there is all the evidence I need to prove my premise. Similar situation last year: Summer 2020, over 500 riots happened that were incited by leftist politicians where people died, government buildings were torched, businesses were looted and we were supposed to accept that these were "mostly peaceful protests" while in the background the city was literally burning. Then there is one instance of a couple of idiots walking into a building and it's all of a sudden the worst thing since the Civil War and then all of a sudden riots were bad, although it wasn't even a riot.
shareHuh? If it had been Chuck Norris, I would have felt the exact same way that it happened to Alec Baldwin 🤷🏻♂️! A tragic accident that happened on the set of a movie. Like, it’s not a political thing; it’s simply a tragic accident. I mean, it wasn’t a political thing when Brandon Lee was accidentally shot and killed. It was simply an accident, and I’m sure some nameless, forgettable tech was fired and blacklisted for it.
The reality of it is that Alec Baldwin (the producer of the movie) didn’t want to end the production of his pay day for this. It’s still personally mystifying how this is a political thing .
I don't believe you for one second, I fully believe the same people defending Baldwin would have crucified Norris by this point. The obvious political bias of the left is all the evidence I need.
shareWell, I never said that no one would go after Norris. I simply said that I wouldn’t. This isn’t the kind of thing that I’d ever think to politicize. On the other side of the spectrum, there are people that love to politicize everything. Personally, I don’t have the energy for that kinda crap.
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