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Thinks of 4 men as his father. Not shallow?


I'm sure than makes John Astin ,the man who raised him, feel real good. And his mom could care less also. It's not a game. Sorry,but full of himself

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You are correct, showing love and appreciation for those who were a positive influence in one's life is not a game. And I'm sure that John Astin, who taught Sean the importance of such appreciation, is very proud of him.

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Sure, now, as a mother who formed a bond with your child from the age of 2, you wouldn't mind either if your son referred to you as one of of his 4 mothers. But, that might be different, since you're the sensitive mother and not the current man around the house.

"Thanks for the lesson on appreciation, my wonderful dad..now I have a date to go to the movies with the guy who conceived me with my mom"..but mom actually doesn't remember who conceived me". "Oh,well, what does it matter,since we're all one big happy family now"

Helps to be cute and huggable, doesn't it.






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It was a mixed up mess and Sean was caught in the middle. Now, however, for him to consider the 2 men who raised him as his father is admirable and normal. He grew up believing that Desi was his biological father, so there are bound to be deep set emotions and i can understand why he would still consider Desi as his father, especially since the two became close later in life. As for Michael Tell, turns out he is the biological father, so Sean has no choice but to acknowledge him as a father too. i do not find this shallow at all.

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Desi Jr? He's involved in the musical chairs still? I thought that was disproven when Duke said John Astin was actually his biological father in 1972,since she started dating John right after--or during--dating Desi Jr.
So, in other words, Desi Jr had to go all this time thinking Sean was his son? Very nice.

What is your definition of shallow?. I am speaking about Mr Astin's(and Desi's too ,I guess)feelings, who I met,btw. Seems like a caring nice man. This is just not about Miss Duke or La Sean.

The fact is, Miss Duke,the fine talent she is, doesn't know who she dated when, who she F'ed when, or who she conceived with. Yeah, Sean was "caught in the middle". How casually put when the father is the one tossed around.

Sorry that I happen to have more sensitivity than what is considered "normal".

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I still don't understand how you find Sean responsible for this? Patty Duke, maybe. But not Sean. And I still don't understand how this relates to you labeling him as shallow.

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I think the aspect is shsllow.
I never said Sean is the cause of his mother's actions, but how it's handled after the fact. If you were the father who raised him(and perhaps thinking he was your biologal son), you would like hearing your son referring to other men as his "dad" in the literal sense of the word, and in your precense ,and in the headlines?

And if it's true that Desi Jr still thought the was the biological father,he has been duped for 40 yrs.

Or if John thought he was the biological father all this time, he has been duped.

And Tell has lost all that time with his real son,and only happened to find out he was the biological father due to the DNA
You cannot F with people's emotions this way. Nice woman, Duke is.

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I think I understand what you are saying and I agree. The issues surrounding his birth are a mess. I just don't understand why you are holding Sean responsible. Or, maybe I am misunderstanding that part. It seems to me that he has tried to turn a difficult situation and make the best of it. Maybe this posting should be on his mother's site instead.

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How do I explain this....
Let's say you are a mother who raised a child from the age of 2, you believe you are the biological mother of that child for 30 years(or not),you establish a bond,etc.
Wouldn't you want that child to think of you as their mom,and not one in an assorted group of moms? This is about emotions,feelings--not a mathematical problem.

If I was that child, I would want my father to know that I think of him as my special one.
Now, if John always knew he was the stepfather until another father comes along, and not sensitive about it, than that's fine.

In the same vein, if your child was now being raised by a step-parent, would you honestly wish your child to adapt and think of that step-parent as an equal to you? Or would really hope your child would not just accept that stranger,and miss you?

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