backlash begins


Social media is now targeting QT due to the Uma Thurman crash (his leading lady the one you associate most with his films calling him out like that is pretty damming) with spotlight also on his association with Weinstein and calling his movie back catalogue into question - all the violence, sadistic, fetish stuff, violence against women (him strangling Thurman, Kruger etc).. also calling for his new film about the Manson murders (probably his most controversial yet and which would also involve Polanski as a character) to be scrapped ..

In this current climate all bets are off so is it possible it could all spiral out of control with others coming forward with stories and QT could get 'Spaceyd' or 'Singerd' overnight and any forthcoming film projects cancelled? (including his Star Trek feature)

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If it happened nothing of value would be lost.

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Well, his last interesting film was Kill Bill, even though it was severly flawed and bloated... The following ones I could do without... Maybe Grindhouse was cute, but his period revenge movies just took the most juvenile parts of Tarantino's work and inserted them into serious topics, in a way that doesn't work... Hateful eight was mediocre...

I probably won't see his new Manson movie, unless I am invited by my fanboy friends. I think he is the wrong director for that kind of material (he inadvertantly made Nazis look cute and/or sympathetic). Also, if he does what is rumoured and makes it about some wannabe actors then it is even less apealling. Like the bad bits of True Romance...

However, I think the whole trial by media is not only distasteful, but as a whole seems more like a witchhunt than justice. A mob cannot appreciate nuance and context.

I don't know any details about the allegations against him, nor the stranglings mentioned in the OP, as I do not follow celebrity gossip, but I do think that social media justice is anything but. The facts tend to be lost in the outrage.

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Well, his last interesting film was Kill Bill


Really? "Django Unchained" is one of his top films and one of the best Westerns ever. And "Inglorious Basterds" ain't no slouch while "The Hateful Eight" certainly has its points of interest.

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I think the two of those are very cartoonish...

Christoph Waltz was horribly miscast in Django and the ridiculousness of his character defused most of the tension in that movie, so the violent scenes lose their emotional impact... They're reduced to just spectacle or worse titillation...

I know they're just silly revenge movies, not to be takens seriously but unlike movies like Death Wish, which scratched at the surface of real social anxiety giving the film a potent quality, Tarantino proves he knows very little about context... Setting those movies in the context of slavery and Nazi occupation and not doing much with those themes is just a lazy way of doing a good vs. evil scenario for him...

Westerns of the past, over time have always dealt in a more complex way with the idea of good and evil, of the American frontier and of slavery and such... Tarantino can't handle these, because he's all flash and no substance... That's ok, except that Django isn't that great aesthetically. I don't recall many noteworthy scenes, or sequences... It doesn't even have cool kills or memorable moments... At least Inglorious had the pipe/cabin scene, but even that movie was tonally off, so much so that some moviegoers ended up feeling sorry for [spoiler]the Nazi guy, Landa, getting muitilated in the end[/spoiler] ... It says a lot about how bad your filmmaking is when you can make a Nazi look sympathetic by mistake!

These two movies are on par with that Grindhouse movie that he did in terms of quality, but without the style... Very average movies... They're not as cool as Pulp Fiction, not as intense as Resevior Dogs and don't have the drama of Jackie Brown...

But if you liked them, that's fine... I know my view is in the minority on this 😎

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but even that movie was tonally off,


Tarantino movies all have the same general tone -- "cool"/artsy/talky/cartoony with over-the-top bloody violence.

I found "Django Unchained" captivating from beginning to end with Christoph Waltz a huge part of making it so compelling, easily one of the top Westerns in cinema IMHO. But, if you didn't like it, you didn't like it. Regardless, I appreciate your thoughtful response.

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Thanks and likewise, it's good to hear other perspectives... 👍

I think you'll like checking out those two... As well as probably True Romance, which he wrote but didn't direct

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I definitely will in the weeks to come, thanks.

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I've heard that he's always had trouble getting financing for his movies, and this can't help.

I sincerely hope the scandal torpedoes his idiotic idea of doing a "Star Trek" film, not because I hate him, but because he's the worst possible director for that material.

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I agree with your Star Trek assessment...QT+ST=WTF?!?

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after Star Trek Beyond Boring QT taking on the next film would be a gift from the movie gods

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i guess we will see

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You "gate" him?

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STOP WITH THIS GODDAMNED #METOO HORSESHIT! I DON'T EVEN LIKE TARANTINO BUT WILL STILL DEFEND HIM AGAINST THIS WITCH-HUNT HYSTERIA!

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How astute of you to recognize the hollowness of the #MeToo campaign.

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This is a question of degrees: I may despise Tarantino but still will defend him against the Rose McGowens, the Uma Thurmans, and all the other menopausal scum who have come forward in support of the #MeToo bowel movement.

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ms. mcgowan is a monster

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Amen

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Maybe his controversial Manson picture will get cancelled (especially in light of his Polanski comments from a few years back). In which case maybe his Star Trek film could get fast tracked for 2019 instead (and have him direct)

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Yes. The question of course, is did he actually do it?


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