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Hes a dork plain and simple.


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At the end of the movie Scarface during the dinner scene with his wife Al Pacino says "you're stoned". He should have said "You're high". Only dorks dont know the difference between stoned and high.Maybe he just have said "you're fucked out of your head" or something. Seems like he thinks people on coke get "stoned", or stoned is an acceptable word for all drugs. It's not. Coke and pot are about as different as two drugs get. This annoyed me the first time I watched it and every time i've ever remembered that scene.

He made the movie Nixon where apparently he thought a stocky, fat-faced Welshman would be the obvious choice to play the scrawniest man to be president *this side* of the 1840s - Richard M. Nixon. LOL. And it's just an incredibly simplistic and hammy bunch of crap with Nixon acting "paranoid" for 3 hours. A toddler could have pieced that movie together.

Platoon is his only vaguely respectable movie because ultimately its a tribute to what a clusterfuck Vietnam was and yet deep down it's still ridiculous cause all the most ridiculous and outrageous things that are supposed/reported to have happened in the Vietnam war, happen to one platoon in about one day. LOL. Not subtle. And dude, how come you're showing US troops molesting vietnamese kids (really doubt that was a regular occurence if at all) but not once in the film does he actually reflect on how oppressive Communism itself is. Which is the WHOLE REASON PEOPLE SUPPORTED THE WAR IN THE FIRST PLACE. Not very subtle propaganda, you fat, Communist-fantasist, 47-year-old AV-club dork.

He made the incredibly sad lame movie "u-Turn" which is a desperately dull and inane wannabe of films such as the awesome early 90s flick "Red Rock West". It's got a completely unlikable central character but we were supposed to side with him just cause he's surrounded by "hicks", which are every pseudointellectual dork's favourite easy target. "LOOK AT THESE KUNTRY PPPL! AREN'T DEEY DUMB!!". That movie had a script that I would have written when I was 11. Hideous. There are actually people that *LIKED* that movie. Baby Jesus fucking sobs into his corn flakes over that.

Most episodes of Baywatch have probably dated better than the movie Natural Born Killers. I mean, at least they have boobs. There's so much more, probably but I've covered the important stuff. I never saw Salvador. I hope Oliver Stone gets face leprosy from rimming Hugo Castr... I mean Chavez's corpse. Am i allowed to say that?

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He was a huge cokehead himself. He probably spent enough time in coke parties to know what lingo people used in the 80s. If he used "stoned" to described coked out then chances are that he heard it being used that way many times in real life

As for the molesting part...troops definitely do shit like rape villagers. It's happened as long as war itself has happened. "If at all..." really? Are you that naive? You think all people in the army are heroic patriots?

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"It's happened as long as war itself has happened. "
True dat. happens on all sides. some more than others though.
Seems after a few days , or years, of killing people troops turn into animals

wasnt there some morrocan regiment fighting for "the allies" towards the end of ww2 that went crazy with the raping?

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Very true, once you cross that line there ain't no going back.

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I know that it was part of the reason why the 3rd Amendment to the Constitution was added, which prohibits the quartering of soldiers in houses during peacetime

It's barely relevant nowadays since troops are almost never deployed on home soil and we haven't been invaded since our fights with the Brits. But back then, when British troops would stay in American homes, supposedly they would rape and pillage the houses of Americans. And American troops may have done similar things to their own people, since they would also use homes for quartering

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At the end of the movie Scarface during the dinner scene with his wife Al Pacino says "you're stoned". Seems like he thinks people on coke get "stoned", or stoned is an acceptable word for all drugs. It's not. Coke and pot are about as different as two drugs get

I think you're wrong on this. It's not interchangeable or typically used to describe someone high on coke. But I have heard it used on occasion as pejorative to a person so coked out of their gourd that they behave like a spaced out stoner.

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