no talent at all


he was ahead of his time in the 70's. i can't deny that. but Spielberg had the luck to be heavily influenced by japanese cinema, even to the point of copying some Kurosawa traits and getting away with it as if it were HIS revolutionary style. beyond some obviously good scenes he could menage in jaws and his other early films, is evident his lack of talent. he simply wasn't born with talent. he was just a guy who liked cinema and tried to do his best to copy the style of his favourite filmmakers in 70's Hollywood. but he is not what anyone would call a "natural born artist", that kind of filmmaker that knows exactly where to place the camera in order to get the best of the plot. it seems that the only people who think he's the best director of all time lives in the us (and probably grew up with his films), since here in my country people don't give two *beep* about him. that's one of the reasons i was a little impressed by the amount of ball sucking towards this mediocre filmmaker. the other reason is that... well, he sucks.

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And Kurosawa was heavily influenced by Western cinema and the techniques and traits of directors like John Ford, Fritz Lang and Sergei Eisenstein. What's your point? All directors are influenced by the work of those who came before them, there's absolutely nothing wrong with that. And Spielberg has been very open about his influences and inspirations, stating that the four movies he watches religiously before directing a film are The Searchers, Seven Samurai, Lawrence of Arabia and It's a Wonderful Life. He's not 'getting away with' anything, nor is he trying to.



This is EXACTLY how he is described by anyone with eyes and the ability to understand composition, framing, blocking and camera movement; from Scorsese to Coppola to Bogdanovich to Lumet to Lean to Wilder to Herzog, all have commented on Spielberg's natural directorial and storytelling talent.

I could sit here and wax-lyrical about Spielberg's use of shadows or faces or mirrors or long-takes or blocking or action-beats or image making but, let's be honest, I'd simply be wasting my time. Any objective, knowledgeable person need only look at the films themselves.



Ah, so it's an anti-American thing, then. Nice of you to outline your bias so succinctly. I'm not American either but I can still recognise filmmaking talent when I see it, and Spielberg has it in spades.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-uCBYFHRHU0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8q4X2vDRfRk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odFAvRs4Eyc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFpki7v4xiI

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And Kurosawa was heavily influenced by Western cinema and the techniques and traits of directors like John Ford, Fritz Lang and Sergei Eisenstein. What's your point? All directors are influenced by the work of those who came before them, there's absolutely nothing wrong with that. And Spielberg has been very open about his influences and inspirations, stating that the four movies he watches religiously before directing a film are The Searchers, Seven Samurai, Lawrence of Arabia and It's a Wonderful Life. He's not 'getting away with' anything, nor is he trying to.

no problem at all with being influenced by other directors. all i was saying is that ALL his directional style has to offer is something another director had already done (it's like tarantino, but less obvious). and i meant that people think that he did all this things because he's a cinematic genious, when all he did was copying kurosawa's long takes (the ridiculously dubbed "spielberg oner" in one of the videos you linked is the best example)

This is EXACTLY how he is described by anyone with eyes and the ability to understand composition, framing, blocking and camera movement; from Scorsese to Coppola to Bogdanovich to Lumet to Lean to Wilder to Herzog, all have commented on Spielberg's natural directorial and storytelling talent.

i sure have the ability of understanding a good composition (etc) and i don't agree. i rewatched jaws last night. the town meeting scene is, in it's camera work, really bad. people praise that shot where the main character is not centralised but supposedly still is the main focus for the audience's eye. it did not work for me, since all the time i was staring at the giant bald head that filled the entire right half of the screen, and above all it looks really ugly. it's NOT the best place to put the camera. also, there's a lot of suspense scenes where he cuts underwater, and that kills the whole tension. and his "blocking" (as much as i find this term to be dumb) is nothing special. actually, nothing he does is actually special. and i doubt all this superior directors sucked his balls as you said they did. all wilder said, for exemple, was "schindler's list is a good film".

Ah, so it's an anti-American thing, then. Nice of you to outline your bias so succinctly. I'm not American either but I can still recognise filmmaking talent when I see it, and Spielberg has it in spades.

no. i never said that. all i said is that most people who tend to like his films are american. that was literally all i said. i really can't see how you could see this as an "anti american" thing. you're just trying to create a extreme political argument in a discussion about art to make me look bad. it's cheap.


and seriously, did you really link videos from "wannabe film school" youtubers? i thought you were talking about directors and professionals opinions on spielberg's work. not obvious 20 years old spielberg fans' opinions in youtube. after that, i can't respect you less.

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If you lived near me I would beat your ignorant ass. You criticize but you cannot do better. Just stop posting on here. Stupid dick.







"'Extremely High Voltage.' Well, I don't need safety gloves, because I'm Homer SimpsonZZZZZzzzzz--" - Frank Grimes

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don't be so childish.

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I just can't see how you can criticize the maker of so many great entertaining films.






"'Extremely High Voltage.' Well, I don't need safety gloves, because I'm Homer SimpsonZZZzzzxx--" - Frank Grimes

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He is still great filmmaker whatever he direct doesn't change the fact that he makes movie like
-Schindler's List (8.9)
-Saving Private Ryan (8.6)
-Raiders of the Lost Ark (8.5)
-Jurassic Park (8.1)
-Catch Me If You Can (8.0)
-Jaws (8.0)
-E.T. Extra-Terrestrial (7.9)
-Minority Report (7.7)

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Where Spielberg placed the camera in Jaws, is where Hitchcock would have placed. Steven more so copied Alfred to finish it. He had no choice once the technical failed him at sea. Finding ways to win is talent.

Camera work from Saving private Ryan has been copied ever since released. Frame rate and shutter speed for war films. Yes, some techniques belong to film, but what genre they work best in? Spielberg has been making some notices. Such as color selection.






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In time Spielberg will be remembered as the most over rated director of all time. He relies on imagery action and sensationalism - "how many snakes can we put in this pit". earthanime, every film you listed is complete crap. Don't you dare compare those films to the likeness of Raging Bull, 2001 A Space Odyssey or Apocalypse Now. Those are real films created by real directors.

Spielberg is a children's film maker, that's it, he basically RUINED Lincoln with all the talent that film had it flopped hard.

There's more to directing than imagery

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Just another generic comment from an elitist self-absorbed douche canoe who thinks he's an expert on great films, there's always one on every board.

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State something to refute my ideas please ?

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I think Munich is Spielberg at his best... Which is strange because it is his least kids oriented movie... In many ways, his least Speilberg movie...

It doesn't have daddy issues as a central theme either.

I think, given the subject matter, he had to bring a certain level of nuance and thought that he isn't usually required to do when he's shooting movies about cartoon characters, or defauling to childhood sentimentality...

It also compelled him to generate more mood and atmosphere, rather than just spectacle, thoughout the movie...

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lol please, what do you know about Hitchcock? There is literally nothing in common between Spielberg and Hitchcock other than Spielberg's PLAGIARISM of him.

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This is a 2 year old post and I’m only replying to your subject text.... no talent at all.... the most ridiculous statement of all time and you should lose a limb just for typing this. No words from your pathetic keyboard could ever sway me otherwise from the emotions I’ve experienced watching Spielberg movies. You my friend are an attention seeker and need to think before you type on these boards. Hopefully in the 2 years of this post you have grown up.

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