I keep on thinking on his career and I can't find a single performance, a single role that we would have missed out on had it never happened. Not a single iconic film that will be loved forever. And that's how it goes for most of the "great" actors of the last 30 years, they are not great at all.
shareHouse of Cards
American Beauty
Usual Suspects
Seven
Ironically these characters are creepy or evil. But still, I think they were very memorable.
Other roles I thought he was great in include:
LA Confidential
Big Kahuna
Swimming w/Sharks
The Ref
Moon
Margin Call
Glengarry Glen Ross is a pretty slick film which he's an important part of. I think that story and the cast alone will form some sort of legacy which he's attached to.
K-PAX is the only other movie I can think of where he really stands out as an incredible performer, well that and the impressions he occasionally did at interviews.
Never seen him on stage but apparently he was very good.
I think the movie Recount (2008) might appear in footnotes in the future when associated with US presidential campaigns and their outcomes.
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shareHe has at least 3 film roles that will live forever. You must be on drugs.
shareMaybe for fanboys who now dictate the best ever lists but not in my world.
shareSo only your list matters then?
shareMaybe it does, I'm a true objective lover of cinema.
shareIn your opinion. Remember that, and you’ll be less likely to end up having silly arguments about nothing on the internet.
shareIt's not silly. And it may be an opinion, however it is incredibly informed. How many of the fanboy critics and fanboys that have made Smarmy Spacey into this god of acting seen a film made before 1975? Probably none.
shareAgain, thats an opinion based on nothing. A guess if you will. What the point exactly? What this need you have to be right? Isnt it enough to have your own likes and dislikes without needing to be agreed with? Cause I tell you, the only people that "NEED" to be agreed with are those that arent secure in their opinions to begin with.
Something to think about.
It is not based on nothing and I am very sure of my opinions.
shareI’m sure you are, just as others are. That’s why they are opinions and not facts.
My opinions are based on facts.
shareOpinions are not facts
shareStill one must base most opinions on facts.
shareNope. One can base opinions on passing gossip, second hand gibberesh and even nonsensicle flimsyness. Like the tabloid people who talk about earth being flat and Taylor being a bat boy, are not based on facts but on flimsy ramblings.
I could say fact, I ate a dinasour for lunch. Dooes that make it fact? I could also say in my opinion my landloard is a baby duck. Does that make it true>
Those are unreasonable people. Reasonable people like me can't opine contrary to facts. Unless it's for something totally open to interpretation like favorite color or whatever.
shareYes but calling yourself resonable is also an opinion, and calling other people unreasonable people is also an opion. Niether of those opinio are based on fact. A favorite color is a fact.
My favorite color is blue. That is a fact. I am not saying in my opinion blue is the best color, that is an opinion, but saying my favorite color is blue is a fact and not open to interperetation
Reason is the guide to navigate the world. It's a fact it is your favorite color however it is your favorite color because in your opinion it is the best.
shareThat is correct to a point. Now where it gets tricky is. If I were to say BLUE is the best color, that is not a fact, that is an opinion, where in is the fact lies that I THINK blue is the best color, which is in my opinion a fact, but being favorite and best are two different factual things.
In my opinion BLUE is the best color
Fact
The McDonalds at my university sells fries. See?
Now you said One MUSt base most opinions on facts. Now in your OPINION people have a different veriation of what MOST are. FACT most is anything over 50% however that is open to interpitation.
So you could SAY MOST opinion is based on fact, but that could really only mean 50.1 % of your opinion is based on fact which in my opinion is not most
That's fine, the point is that, in most cases, or at least more often than not, an opinion contrary to facts is an unreasonable opinion. This is A MAJOR REALIZATION that 99.9% of people have no idea how to even begin to comprehend. I know this because I see it everyday.
sharePreference is subjective and not open to being considered a universal fact.
shareI never said otherwise, I said in my world, in my opinion, Spacey doesn't have legendary film roles that are going to live forever. That is my OPINION based on THE FACT that no one outside of fanboys even knows who he is. And let's face it, his films and performances are not great.
shareThat is my OPINION based on THE FACT that no one outside of fanboys even knows who he is.
He is a household name but who really watches those films after the fad has subsided?
shareHey I'm just responding to your contention that you cited basing your opinion the "FACT that no one outside of fanboys even knows who he is" when that's clearly not a fact. Nor would it ever be a legit reason for me as to whether I liked an actor's performance or not as to how many fanboys or the rest of the population might like him. But I'm not going to hold it against you if you do.
As far as roles, in my opinion his Frank Underwood in House of Cards is iconic and will be remembered long after he's gone. He really added his own American flair to Ian Richardson's Frank Urquart in the original.
Nor do I think I'm being unreasonable in thinking this, but I would never be so pretentious as to insist I'm basing this opinion on fact because I agree with ChuckFindlay, it's all subjective opinion. There's no way to know for sure what will be considered iconic when we're all dead and gone.
That your opinion not a fact,
shareGotta disagree...
As others have stated hes been in some real classics
His current situation is pretty pathetic but dont discount the mans body of work Cake...
I liked K-PAX
sharePlummer will probably be better than Spacey was in All The Money in The World... Would be great to compare the two, maybe as a blu ray extra...
From the trailers it seems Spacey was using too many Frank Underwood/House of Card mannerisms, but we really can't judge based on trailers...