Did His Career End with Dr. Moreau?

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You have absutely no intelligence and make yourself look like an idiot! Don't know what rock you've been living under, but Val has lost a ton of weight and has maintained for the last two years. His career is far from over!

If one were to point out where Kilmer's downfall began, it would be The Island of Dr. Moreau. It was an awful movie in its own right, but it was Kilmer's off screen antics at this point that really started costing him roles. During filming he burned one or more screen members with cigarettes, and was often boorish and difficult. You can get away with acting like an ass when your movies do well at the box office, but once they start flopping, no studio is going to put up with that garbage.

Ironically, wasn't he starring with a fat tub of lard in that movie?

LOL incidently in the latest issue of EW (Entertainment Weekly) they have a story about the behind-the-scenes troubles with that infamous dump of a movie. I think it wrecked the career (what he had left anyway) of Brando more-so than Kilmer's. But it certainly didn't help Val. IFC is showing it March 3 by the way. Set your DVR!

No, I enjoyed it. It's just that there are some scenes that are funny and lend themselves to ridicule.

I when I think about it more, I believe that Batman Forever was in a sense, the beginning of the end for Val Kilmer as a respected, mainstream star so to speak. Before landing the Batman role, it could be argued that Val wasn’t quite yet a box office draw or truly an A-list star even though I’m sure that most people knew who he was thanks to movies like Top Gun, Willow, or Tombstone.

If what Joel Schumacher said about Val was true, then quite frankly, he really blew it (even though I’ve said before, I’m willing to give Val some benefit of the doubt considering how badly Batman & Robin turned out). And quite frankly, it’s a safe bet that Schumacher wasn’t exaggerating based on the stories about Val’s behavior on the set of The Island of Dr. Moreau. That and the Batman stories just prior really magnified Val’s “difficult to work with” reputation going as far back to at least Top Gun. If anything, getting “fired” from the Batman role (now when I think about it, if they really wanted him back, then they would’ve called him to let him know that they were going to film the next one one year ahead of time) helped insure producers/studios to never entrust Val Kilmer to front-line a major major blockbuster movie franchise (unless you count The Saint) again.

It would be like if Robert Downey, Jr. (Val’s Kiss Kiss Bang Bang co-star) acted like a rude, belligerent, arrogant prima-donna on the set of “Iron Man” (the movie that officially made RDJ an A-list, box office star after being written off due to his drug abuse issues and spending much of his career as more of a quirky character actor). And while we’re on the subject of Marvel Comics, Edward Norton might as well be the Val Kilmer of that particular company’s movies based on his alleged attitude/behavior while working on The Incredible Hulk (hence why Mark Ruffalo was called in to replace him as Bruce Banner for The Avengers).