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has anyone tried marathoning his movies?


If so, how did it go? How long were you able to make it before giving up?

I'm not saying this just 'cause his filmography dates back all the way to the 60's, it's mainly to do with how similar most of his movies are, both in terms of content and presentation. For being one of Hollywood's greatest screenwriters, the guy so rarely pushes himself outside of his comfort zone. While most of his work is still enjoyable, I can hardly watch more than two of his films in a month before getting bored.

Has anyone done it, though? Anyone ever try marathoning his movies?

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Nope but I would like to watch the original version of September back to back with the released version - different cast altogether!

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Woody's movie have a similar style, but to say he never pushes himself out of his comfort zone doesn't seem accurate. His farcical comedies and then his serious human dramas, and then mysteries and crime dramas. He writes them all, and stars or plays in many if not most of them, so there is that. I started watching a lot of the movies on Amazon Prime, but many of them are mysteriously not available. Crimes and Misdemeanors was next on my list. Can's wait to see it again. Amazon and HBO have done Woody wrong.

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A few months ago I watched most of his work over the course of two weeks. It was a lot of fun! I totally disagree with the notion that all of his films are very similar btw. I don't recognise that at all.

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Marathon Bananas, Match Point, and Zelig and tell me his movies are all the same.

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Yeah, but those were literally made decades apart. If you actually were to sit down and watch all his films from oldest to newest, you'd find them blending together very soon.

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I think you'd see a smooth progression with lots of experimentation thrown in, either in content or style.

Well, what if I just hop every three films?

Take the Money and Run is a mockumentary
Everything You Always Wanted to Know about Sex is sketch comedy
Annie Hall is a stream-of-consciousness rom-com (that basically blueprinted that genre for the next several decades), with absurdist elements
Stardust Memories is a re-invention, re-make, homage, and send-up of Federico Fellini's 8 1/2
Broadway Danny Rose is a farce
Radio Days is an on-film, mostly fictional memoir and tribute to the eponymous epoch
Crimes and Misdemeanours is a tragi-comic exploration of Crime & Punishment
Husbands and Wives is a drama about the ends of relationships
Mighty Aphrodite is a Greek comedy in a modern setting
I haven't seen Celebrity, although I'd like to.
The Curse of the Jade Scorpion is part film noir and part screwball comedy
Haven't seen Melinda and Melinda, nor Cassandra's dream (I'd like to).
You Will Meet a Tall, Dark Stranger is a dramedy
Blue Jasmine is a drama reminiscent of Tennessee Williams
Cafe Society is a dramedy

Or, maybe you'd prefer considering a streak? Midnight In Paris (magic-real), To Rome with Love (short story anthology), Blue Jasmine, and Magic in the Moonlight (mystery and rom-com blend).

If you mean to say that Woody has a certain style to him, yeah, I'll agree for the most part that his films have a "vibe", although that vibe is hard to place.

He is constantly concerned with relationships, love, death, sex, God, existentialism, philosophy, the Jewish identity, New York, and the lifestyles of rich, glamorous people. Yes, that's true enough. But most of those are big enough topics that they are never exhausted. I haven't bored of artwork concerning the Meaning of Life no matter how many times I encounter is in Love and Death, Hamlet, or the Monty Python film. I've watched The Good Place multiple times, philosophy still doesn't bore me.

I'm not pretending Allen's films don't have shared elements or that many don't feel similar, but at his most experimental, he really does serve up very fresh things, mixes up his style and technique, tries new ways of using the camera - all of it. At his most repetitive, I find myself no worse off than I do reading many, many Discworld novels, Batman comics, or episodes of long-running TV series. Yes: they have shared elements, but that's some of the fun.

So, while I know what you mean: Allen has an artistic voice which, naturally, permeates his work, his filmography - taken as a whole - is more delightfully surprising than he is often given credit for.

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As I've come to expect from you, a thoughtful & wide-ranging response, one that I wish I had written myself. I certainly agree with you about Woody's films, some of which I've still yet to see, even after all this time—there are so many good ones! In a way, his body of work is not unlike that of Philip K. Dick, in that vital themes & motifs occur over & over again throughout, but almost never seem merely repetitive to me. It's more like looking at them anew each time, from a different angle--this time as comedy, this time as romance, this time as drama, this time as absurdity—the basic subject matter is inexhaustible for those open to & interested in it. The entire body of work is a whole; the individual films are specific facets of it.

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Thank you, my friend.

I don't think a good artist can help but repeat (to some extent), because of course the artist will have things that prey upon or are bound up in their soul. Those things are bound to come out - if they're putting their soul into their art. If they aren't, well, they're probably not an artist worth investigating.

Woody is no different. And, fortunately, his topics sustain forever. He could make a movie really interested in love (not just "romance movies", but *about* love) every year and never have that well run dry. The proof is that artists have been putting out works on love forever and it's never gotten old.

That's probably the first time anybody's ever compared WA to PKD, and now I'm hoping Allen does an adaptation of something by Philip, if only for the tagline: "WOODY DOES DICK!"

The other thing about Allen is that, while he goes to the same wells, he does it differently, and there are a lot of wells. Stage magic comes up a lot (including hypnosis), but he uses it in different ways. Colin Firth in Magic in the Moonlight, for instance, is a classic stage magician and a skeptic, while David Ogden Stiers in Curse of the Jade Scorpion is a hypnotist of an exaggerated nature, with powers unlikely to be found in real life. Then, of course, he does magic for real in films like Midnight in Paris, The Purple Rose of Cairo, or Alice.

And all that is just one thing he does sometimes, let alone existentialism or writer-as-character, or an investigation of nostalgia (Radio Days, Midnight in Paris), or his biggest one: love.

We haven't touched on his cinematography, either, which is underrated. People just think it's nothing special, like he just kinda "shoots movies" with no real style, but he's got (first of all) a lot of variety here, and I'd argue that there is a greatness to an unassuming cinematography.

Camera moves of the slick nature draw attention to themselves. This is masterfully done by Martin Scorsese or (most-known) Tarantino. I love those filmmakers.

Allen's the other end of the spectrum where you seldom notice what he's doing with the camera, but what he's doing is majestic.

I've discussed with people before about the "peeping Tom" camerawork in Manhattan Murder Mystery, turning us into spies. It even stays more static and controlled in scenes that are more laid-back and gets more jittery and twitchy when Diane Keaton is snooping around. We become sleuths by watching and prying into lives. Of course, the handheld "real" style also suits the heart-and-core of that film: will Allen and Keaton's characters' marriage fall apart or get stronger? It stays human but also imitates spying. Genius.

He uses mockumentary stuff in Zelig, knows when to employ black-and-white photography, and can mimic the old styles to give us a feeling of "Old Hollywood" in Curse of the Jade Scorpion. He isn't just a mimic, either (which Tarantino might want to take note of). He doesn't just do Fellini, he adds his own thing to Stardust Memories. His mimicry of epic cinematography in Love and Death is cheeky - a puckish spoof, if you will, and heightens the laughs (assuming you've seen epic cinema enough to notice).

His camerawork, though, by lacking "force" and never imposing itself, kinda strikes me like a well-air-conditioned room. A good air conditioner keeps a room cool. A good heater will make the room warm and cozy. But with perfect temperature control, you might never even notice it's there at all.

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"Take the Money and Run is a mockumentary
Everything You Always Wanted to Know about Sex is sketch comedy
Annie Hall is a stream-of-consciousness rom-com (that basically blueprinted that genre for the next several decades), with absurdist elements
Stardust Memories is a re-invention, re-make, homage, and send-up of Federico Fellini's 8 1/2
Broadway Danny Rose is a farce
Radio Days is an on-film, mostly fictional memoir and tribute to the eponymous epoch
Crimes and Misdemeanours is a tragi-comic exploration of Crime & Punishment
Husbands and Wives is a drama about the ends of relationships
Mighty Aphrodite is a Greek comedy in a modern setting
I haven't seen Celebrity, although I'd like to.
The Curse of the Jade Scorpion is part film noir and part screwball comedy
Haven't seen Melinda and Melinda, nor Cassandra's dream (I'd like to).
You Will Meet a Tall, Dark Stranger is a dramedy
Blue Jasmine is a drama reminiscent of Tennessee Williams
Cafe Society is a dramedy"

But most of that is just aesthetics and allusions, is it not? Those aren't what makes the film what they were at their core, they were just salad dressings. In terms of themes and content however, Woody tends to repeat himself A LOT. Existential crisis's, marriage/relationship problems, sexual politics, neurosis etc.

If we use your way of classifying films, we can pretty much claim every filmmaker is an Ang Lee chameleon type. We wouldn't be biting into the meat of the sandwich this way, we'd just be nibbling on the bread.

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Sometimes, yes, but sometimes no, and taken to their extremes, either way can make the viewpoint meaningless. For example, arguing that the essence of the movie or story is what matters might wind up saying somebody who has seen Grease need not see a production of Romeo & Juliet despite the latter having its own value.

But, yes, I see your point.

Still, I would argue that we see a filmmaker with a lot of breadth and depth to his works, which are not all alike, nor are they exhausting and repetitive.

Annie Hall and Manhattan were made only a couple years apart and each deals with a Woody Allen-played main character and his love life turmoils, but they are very different movies. Manhattan almost pretends to be a comedy - mostly relying on its dramatic points to move the story - while Annie Hall is almost absurdist in its comedic approach. Watch both in a row, and despite similar themes and ideas, somewhere between the straightforward narrative of Manhattan contrasted with the bouncing, stream-of-consciousness approach to Annie Hall; or the characters themselves; or even the black-and-white vs colour presentation, and neither would be dull having viewed the other.

But, okay, themes? We still have a wide spread.
Bananas - just enough politics to float a spoof film
Love and Death - what it says on the tin
Crimes & Misdemeanours - an examination of consequences (or lack thereof) and what nihilism might mean
Midnight in Paris - the wistful "what if" of nostalgia and living in the present
Match Point - luck and chaos

He does (as I admit/said before) use death, love, God, romance, sex, neuroticism, New York lifestyles, Jewish-American identity, and so on and so forth, as his go-to themes and ideas, but that's not all he's explored, he explores them in radically different ways, and these topics are inexhaustibly deep.

I know what you mean: Allen often has a similar vibe. But I still stand by my two main points:

First, that a marathon or day-by-day viewing of his films would not produce boredom because of their excellence.

Second, that he has more depth and variety than people give him credit for.

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I like most of his movies but I don't think he's perfect or even consistent as he has had some dry periods of movie releases that didn't impress me.

I also disagree with your contention that he doesn't push himself and has a "comfort zone". He's one of the most diverse film writers/directors out there for being a very 20th Century urbanized NYC Jewish kinda guy. He also never migrated and settled into the Hollywood/California lifestyle like so many of his contemporaries.

I have read criticism from others like Spike Lee that Woody doesn't accurately portray New York City metro because of his cast and characters are mostly caucasian, but I think that's just a gaslighting accusation by Spike Lee who I think has more of tendency to operate from a comfort zone.

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I agree with basically everything you say here.

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I agree with the OP 100%. I like Woody Allen a lot, I don't think he's done a movie I didn't like, but I don't think I could watch 7 of his movies in 7 nights.

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