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The Underrated Works of Woody Allen


Anybody who loves Allen's work lists the same handful of movies (Annie Hall, Manhattan, Bananas, Crimes and Misdemeanours, etc.), and I do that, too. They're the most popular ones for a reason. But I find that there's a lot of underrated work on Allen's C.V., for various reasons.

First, people seem to want every one of his movies to be Annie Hall, but also throw him over for "repeating himself". He can't win for losing. Contrary to these views, Allen has always taken risks. Not necessarily with every movie, but he tries new things often. Interiors, Zelig, even Take the Money and Run was extremely novel (mockumentary) at the time. But more importantly, there's a huge risk taken in just doing what you want as a creative person. Everybody wants him to make Annie Hall again and again, but he makes Interiors and Match Point. People want him to outdo himself, but sometimes he makes a simple comedy like Scoop which is just plain fun, but is it valueless because it's not breaking new ground? Not to me.

Other times his work is underrated because people only really know him as a screen writer and have missed the hilarious comedy pieces he's written, his stand-up material, or the plays he's created.

Here are my top "underrated works" of Woody Allen:

Match Point - this might be my favourite Allen film. It's got all the classic underrated Allen tropes: it's not a comedy, it's late career, and it's both novel for him (not his usual style) plus a bit of a re-tread, going over Crimes & Misdemeanours to some extent. But I found it wonderful, end-to-end. Really engaging, intriguing, emotional, and thought-provoking.

God - his play, paired with Death, which just goes for broke with great jokes, both high-brow (philosophical musings) and low (the main characters names are Hepatitis and Diabetes).

Viva Vargas - a short story, told as a journal, about a South American/ Banana Republic style revolution. Echos of Bananas (I'm not sure which came first, actually), but the crazy escalation of the revolution is marvellous. The recurring gags about Cielito Lindo had me incapable of breathing due to laughter.

Radio Days - this is a movie that should maybe be studied in classes, both as film and just as literature or storytelling generally. It's a bildungsroman in celluloid, and it's fantastic.

Apropos of Nothing - it's a great read, it's really funny, and very moving and compelling.

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Broadway Danny Rose
Small Time Crooks
Deconstructing Harry

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Small Time Crooks has a premise alone that's worthy of praise; that's a great set-up. The execution is great, too, of course, but STC's premise is great.

Love Broadway Danny Rose, too.

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I really like Interiors. It's not what anyone expected from Woody, and many dismissed it as Bergman-lite; but while Bergman is an obvious influence, Interiors can stand on its own.

I also like Another Woman, which is one that especially seems to get forgotten.

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I haven't seen Another Woman yet (but intend to).

To some extent, I suppose it shouldn't surprise that vast chunks of Allen's work gets left behind or forgotten because he's so bloody prolific. But, it's still a shame that nobody does a deep-dive.

I get this with classic rock stations, too. The other day I was listening to one that lauded Guns 'n' Roses' Appetite for Destruction (I guess it's classic rock) for having great deep cuts and unknown songs all over it. Then he played Sweet Child o' Mine.

People should talk about, watch, and love Annie Hall until doomsday - don't get me wrong - but it'd be a shame if people forgot about To Rome with Love just because it was late Allen, and therefore, unpopular.

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Full agreement! :)

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Consensus! The motion passes!

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I kinda forgot The Front, which is an excellent movie that I found as touching as it was funny, although I'm not sure it counts, since it's just a movie Allen acted in, not one he wrote, directed, or in those sense "created".

Antz, too.

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Small Time Crooks was great. I also like Take the Money and Run, and Bananas. Can't forget Sleepers.

I used to think Scenes from a Mall was pretty good but watched it again last year and it seemed to lose a lot of its appeal.

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I haven't seen Scenes from a Mall yet.

Sleeper's great. It's made a couple top sci-fi lists over the years, which I always love, that they'd recognize it for how great it was and also just that they'd include a comedy.

His original premise idea was very intriguing, too, for it to be a two-part epic with an intermission, and the first half would be the present and the last half would be the future, pre- and post-cryo-sleep.

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I saw Scenes From a Mall when it played in theaters. I was looking forward to it because I was already a huge fan of Woody and Paul Mazursky's films and had enjoyed performances from the talented Bette Midler. My jaw dropped when I saw how awful it was. It was a huge disappointment from such talented people. Years later I purchased a cheap DVD of it just to see if it was as terrible as I remembered. It was.

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Love and Death (1975) is a great early film from Woody. At one time he used to say everyone loved Annie Hall and it won him Oscars, but he was personally more fond of Love and Death which shows a definite maturation of his comedy (not sure if he still holds this viewpoint).

Also, Allen's final film with Mia Farrow Husbands and Wives (1992) has a real power to it possibly because of the frictions in his relationship with Farrow that were bubbling to the surface that year. It has great performances from Sydney Pollack and Judy Davis. There's an underlying sadness and truthfulness in it even while it's often very funny.

I'm a fan also of his two dramas Interiors (1978)and Another Woman (1988) though not so much September.

Shadows and Fog (1991) is one that was not well-received at the time but is a highly intriguing experiment. I love Zelig (1982) for the same reason. Both of these films deserve to be much more widely known.

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I consider Love and Death to be the last of his "early" films, which were almost entirely comic, and as a sort of "bridge" into his next phase, in which he starts really going after the human condition. I'm not saying Sleeper wasn't a great satire, just that it was more about coming up with funny premises for a sci-fi setting, not so much about commentary.

Love and Death put those two - BIG - themes front-and-centre and, although it's still really silly (in the best way), it's starting to get that real Woody Allen bent towards philosophy in ways that weren't as emphasized, prominent, or in-depth in his early stuff.

In short: I love it. I love it more with each passing year, and it becomes more and more a rich experience. It's got such great layers: comedy on the surface, philosophy bubbling underneath, but that's all shot through with the Russian lit angle, the nods to cinematography of epics, and so forth. It's really something.

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I agree wholeheartedly.

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Fading Gigolo ( acted in )
Curse of the Jade Scorpion
Manhattan Murder Mystery

are three really good ones I can think of off-hand.

I also liked
A Midsummer's Night Sex Comedy
Deconstructing Harry

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I recently watched The Curse of the Jade Scorpion in black and white and it was really great. He got the look and feel of old cinema so well that it felt "right" in black and white.

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I don’t think I saw anyone mention ‘Alice’ from 1990. I’ve seen 8 Woody Allen movies so far (I still have a long way to go) and Alice is my highest rated one.

I also really enjoyed Love and Death.

Manhattan and Annie Hall which are two of Woody’s highest rated movies both got a 5/10 from me. I didn’t enjoy either one.

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I saw Alice for the first time a couple years ago, and I have to agree with you. I didn't even know if it was going to be one of his comedies or dramas, so it was just pleasant surprise after pleasant surprise. It's one of his magic-real films (like Purple Rose of Cairo or Midnight in Paris) and those are always very good. He's really clever with that kind of thing, even though people don't think of him as a fantasist.

Love and Death is, I think, his *funniest* film. It's got the most laughs, for me. It's not my favourite, although it would be top-five I think, but it is minute-by-minute, laugh-by-laugh the funniest one. It's also (as I see it) the "transition film" between his earlier, madcap, Marx Brothers-esque films (like Bananas) and his "dramedy" work like Annie Hall.

It's interesting to me, on that note, that you don't like Annie Hall, because I see it as a kind of logical extension of Love and Death in many ways - diving into the philosophy and human relationships as much as the absurdism. What is it about Annie Hall you didn't really like?

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Not a movie but Woody actually boxing a Kangaroo is iconic

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I can't remember seeing that; I will be looking it up!

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