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☝️ Pop vs. Box 👇 '46 - '76

posted 2 years ago by Redsfan001 (6004)
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Card 125

Key -

B - box office rank for year
P - current popular ranking for year
🎖️ - first place rank
🥉 - 3rd place popular winner for year
🤔 - most obscure
* - final film appearance

(#/128) rank amongst 128 actors

🎖️ - first place rank
🥇 - top 5 ranking

Mr. Wayne's work prior to 1946 has been included in reply. Narration work not included.

46 Without Reservations B16 P65
47 Angel and the Badman - no data
47 Tycoon - no data
48 Red River B2 P9
48 Fort Apache - no data
48 3 Godfathers - no data
48 Wake of the Red Witch - no data
49 The Fighting Kentuckian - no data
49 Sands of Iwo Jima B4 P10
49 She Wore a Yellow Ribbon B7 P9
50 Rio Grande - no data
51 Operation Pacific - no data
51 Flying Leathernecks - no data
52 The Quiet Man B4 P3
52 Big Jim McLain - no data
53 Trouble Along the Way - no data
53 Island in the Sky - no data
53 Hondo B7 P18
54 The High and the Mighty B8 P24
55 The Sea Chase🤔 B3 P77
55 Blood Alley - no data
56 The Conqueror B11 P17
56 The Searchers🎖️ B- P1
57 The Wings of Eagles - no data
57 Jet Pilot - no data
57 Legend of the Lost - no data
58 The Barbarian/Geisha - no data
59 Rio Bravo🎖️ B13 P1
59 The Horse Soliders B24 P32
60 The Alamo B7 P23
60 North to Alaska - no data
61 The Commancheros - no data
62 The Man Who Shot..🎖️ B15 P1
62 Hatari! B9 P16
62 The Longest Day🎖️ B1 P9
63 How the West Was Won🎖️B1 P11
63 Donovan's Reef - no data
63 McLintock! - no data
64 Circus World - no data
65 The Greatest Story..B12 P21
65 In Harms Way B25 P8
65 The Sons of Katie..B14 P5
66 Cast a Giant Shadow - no data
66 El Dorado🎖️ B13 P1
67 The War Wagon B27 P9
68 The Green Berets B11 P33
68 Hellfighters - no data
69 True Grit B7 P5
69 The Undefeated - no data
70 Chisum B18 P37
70 Rio Lobo B19 P13
71 Big Jake B22 P29
72 The Cowboys B19 P12
73 The Train Robbers - no data
73 Cahill, US Mashal - no data
74 McQ B80 P16
75 Brannigan - no data
75 Rooster Cogborn 🥉B30 P29
76 The Shootist* - no data

Movies scored - 29
Box sum - 429
Pop sum - 542

Box avg rank - 14.79 (1/128)🎖️
Pop avg rank - 18.72 (1/128)🎖️

BA-PA = -3.93 (24/128)

Box top 20 - 🤠🤠🤠🤠🤠🤠🤠🤠🤠🤠🤠🤠🤠🤠🤠🤠🤠🤠🤠🤠🤠🤠🤠
Pop top 20 - 🐎🐎🐎🐎🐎🐎🐎🐎🐎🐎🐎🐎🐎🐎🐎🐎🐎🐎🐎

Best box - The Longest Day (1), How the West Was Won (1)
Worst box - McQ (80)
Best pop - The Searchers (1), Rio Bravo (1), The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance (1), El Dorado (1)
Worst pop - The Sea Chase (77)

Pop gainer - McQ (+69)
Pop loser - The Sea Chase (-74)

Pop vs. box awards

🎖️🎖️🎖️🎖️🎖️🎖️🎖️🎖️🥇🥇🥉

It is natural for popular rankings to be higher due to the influx of art house, international and straight to video releases.

Scoring b-p

10+ = excellent
9 to -9 = good
-10 to -29 = average
-30 to -49 = poor
-50 and below = very poor

Example

The Green Berets B11 P33 = -22(avg)

Tally

Excellent (10pts each) = 6
Good (5pts each) = 15
Average (0pts each) = 6
Poor (-5pts each) = 1
Very poor (-10pts each) = 1
Pop top 20 bonus (5pts each) = 19

+60,+75,-5,-10,+95

Mr. Wayne's pop/box library score

215 (4/128)🥇

[–] huwdj (4562) 2 years ago

Interesting that The Sea Chase has done so poorly. I remember it as quite a good film but perhaps the fact that Wayne plays a German captain contradicts his usual image?

[–] Redsfan001 (6004) 2 years ago

Haven't seen that one yet, many of these I am going to make a effort to view. Your reasoning seems sound to me.

Watched Red River (48) for the first time a few months back, just a great film. The hardness of that life makes our current standard of living look like gravy.

[–] Redsfan001 (6004) 2 years ago

Movies 1926 - 1943

26 Brown of Harvard
26 Bardelys the Magnificent
26 The Great K&A Train Robbery
27 Annie Laurie
27 Drop Kick
28 Mother Marchree
28 Four Sons
28 Hangman's House
28 Noah's Ark
29 Speakeasy
29 The Black Watch
29 Words and Music
29 Salute
29 The Forward Pass
30 Men Without Women
30 Born Reckless
30 Rough Romance
30 Cheer Up and Smile
30 The Big Trail
31 Girls Demand Excitement
31 Three Girls Lost
31 Arizona
31 The Deciever
31 The Range Feud
31 Maker of Men
32 The Shadow of the Eagle
32 Texas Cyclone
32 Two-Fisted Law
32 Lady and Gent
32 The Hurricane Express
32 Ride Him, Cowboy
32 That's My Boy
32 The Big Stampede
32 Haunted Gold
33 The Telegraph Trail
33 The Three Musketeers
33 Central Airport
33 Somewhere in Sonora
33 His Private Secretary
33 The Life of Jimmy Dolan
33 Baby Face
33 That Man from Monterey
33 Riders of Destiny
33 College Coach
33 Sagebrush Trail
34 The Lucky Texan
34 West of the Divide
34 Blue Steel
34 The Man from Utah
34 Randy Rides Alone
34 The Star Packer
34 The Trail Beyond
34 The Lawless Frontier
34 'Neth the Arizona Skies
35 Texas Terror
35 Rainbow Valley
35 The Desert Trail
35 The Dawn Rider
35 Paradise Canyon
35 Westward Ho
35 The New Frontier
35 Lawless Range
36 The Oregon Trail - (lost film)
36 The Lawless Nineties
36 King of the Pecos
36 The Lonely Trail
36 Winds of the Wasteland
36 Sea Spoilers
36 Conflict
37 California Straight Ahead!
37 I Covered the War
37 Idol of Crowds
37 Born to the West
38 Pias of the Saddle
38 Overland Stage Riders
38 Santa Fe Stampede
38 Red River Range
39 Stagecoach
39 The Night Riders
39 Three Texas Steers
39 Wyoming Outlaw
39 New Frontier
39 Allegheny Uprising
40 Dark Command
40 Three Faces West
40 The Long Voyage Home
40 Seven Sinners
41 A Man Betrayed
41 Lady from Louisiana
41 The Shepard of the Hills
42 Lady of the Night
42 Reap the Wild Wind
42 The Spoilers
42 In Old California
42 Flying Tigers
42 Reunion in France
42 Pittsburgh
43 A Lady Takes a Chance
43 In Old Oklahoma

[–] Redsfan001 (6004) 2 years ago

Movies 1944-45

44 The Fighting Seabees
44 Tall in the Saddle
44 Flame of Barbary Coast
45 Back to Bataan
45 They Were Expendable
45 Dakota

[–] Redsfan001 (6004) a year ago

Vote count/rank data

Total vote count '46-'76:

861,000

Avg vote rank:

40th

Top 5 (#of votes)

1. The Searchers 90,313
2. The Man Who Shot..76,816
3. Rio Bravo 63,402
4. The Longest Day 56,487
5. True Grit 48,842

Top 5 (vote rank for year)

1. The Searchers (2nd)
2. The Quiet Man (4th)
3. (tie) She Wore a Yellow.. (5th)
3. (tie) The Man Who Shot..(5th)
5. (tie) Red River (6th)
5. (tie) True Grit (6th)

Bottom 5 (#of votes)

1. Tycoon 1,574
2. Without Reservations 1,767
3. Trouble Along the Way 1,949
4. The Barbarian/Geisha 2,019
5. Big Jim McLain 2,176

Bottom 5 (vote rank for year)

1. Circus World (105th)
2. The Barbarian/Geisha (90th)
3. Cast a Giant Shadow (85th)
4. Trouble Along the Way (78th)
5. Tycoon (76th)

and the rest...

Angel and the Badman 6k/21st
Fort Apache 19k/7th
3 Godfathers 10k/18th
Wake of the Red Witch 3k/54th
The Fighting Kentuckian 3k/47th
Sands of Iwo Jima 11k/14th
Operation Pacific 4k/41st
Flying Leathernecks 5k/30th
Island in the Sky 4k/52nd
Hondo 11k/25th
The High and the Mighty 6k/33rd
The Sea Chase 3k/61st
Blood Alley 3k/66th
The Conqueror 4k/53rd
The Wings of Eagles 4k/47th
Jet Pilot 2k/75th
The Horse Soldiers 11k/22nd
The Alamo 16k/21st
North to Alaska 4k/33rd
The Commacheros 9k/24th
Hatari! 13k/27th
How the West was Won 21k/8th
Donovan's Reef 9k/31st
McLintock! 15k/21st
The Greatest Story...11k/25th
In Harm's Way 9k/27th
The Sons of Katie Elder 18k/12th
El Dorado 28k/13th
The War Wagon 10k/30th
The Green Berets 13k/28th
Hellfighters 6k/50th
The Undefeated 7k/36th
Chisum 10k/29th
Rio Lobo 13k/20th
Big Jake 13k/36th
The Cowboys 15k/25th
Cahill, U.S. Marshall 7k/55th
McQ 5k/67th
Roster Cogborn 12k/32nd
The Shootist 25k/19th