Was she killed?


Was Marilyn Monroe killed or did she die buy her own hand?

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___Maybe your new to this board and would like to generally know the answer, but honestly this is an unanswerable question. If two official enquiries cannot come up with definitive answer to this half century mystery, your not going to get it here, The 1962 rushed ruling said "Probable Suicide", maybe the only time in history the word probable has been penciled in.

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No I'm not as smart as you, sue me!!!!

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___Geez, sorry, guess you wanted some long winded controversial answer. Honestly, we have too much of that tug of rope in life, I was just trying to say how it really is, bottom line.

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I'm pretty tired of this topic anyway.... It's been over played.

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I've been a fan of Marilyn since I was 13 years old (I'm in my early 50's now.) Since then I've read every book I can get my hands on, watched interviews, studied the people in her life.

There is plenty of speculation about her involvement with the Kennedy brothers and the possible appearance of Robert Kennedy to her house on the night she died. However, here is my opinion, FWIW: I think she died by her own hand, but "accidentally." (I'll get to why I'm putting that word in quotes in a second.)

She was popping Nembutals like candy; they are a barbiturate (the tranquilizer of choice 50-plus years ago. They've been replaced by benzo's like Valium nowadays.) Her tolerance was probably high, but she often mixed pills and booze, a potentially deadly combo. But I digress.

She had TWO prescribing physicians and I think she just overplayed the drugs. Her autopsy showed she had barbiturates AND choral hydrate in her system.

The reason that, imo, her death was an "accident:" Marilyn made suicide attempts in the past. She was a deeply depressed and damaged woman (for reasons I won't go into here.) Although she played a confidant sex goddess to the public, she was actually incredibly insecure and didn't have a firm sense of herself. All that aside, she was no dummy. She had been warned, and she knew of the dangers of taking all the drugs and of the abusive drinking. I think part of her just didn't care, and that she probably indulged in suicidal ideation on a frequent basis.

She rose to fame quickly, and then began to spiral downward badly. I liken it to Alice Echol's description of Janis Joplin's chaotic, drug-and-booze fueled lifestyle...she called it "Slow-Motion Suicide."

Marilyn's life was pockmarked with episodes of overdosing, but she would always call someone and confess what she'd done (a "rescue.") This time, no one rescued her.

Resources for women steeped in addiction were sparse back in the 1960's. I don't know that Marilyn could have lived a long life: she had so many horrible scars from a horrific childhood that supposedly included sexual abuse and neglect. Also, her mother was schizophrenic and institutionalized; there is speculation that this type of mental illness is hereditary.

Sorry for the long answer. And again, the above is all my opinion. Peace.

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Good answer Luvviehowell...

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Luvvie--

The subject of Marilyn's death is so inflammatory, I rarely respond to these threads, particularly as my opinion is very much in the minority.

I am older than you, I recall when Monroe died. I've read every book, examined every theory. I believe her death was an accident or an impulsive suicide--that is, a depression came upon her suddenly. After that, a huge cover-up, documents stolen (her only real jewelry stolen!), her body most likely moved, lies and dissembling from every single participant. I don't think she was murdered or that anybody had a motive to murder her. But there were plenty of reasons to cover a lot up, which sure made everything look shady.

As much as I would like to think she could have overcome all her issues and remained a great star with a thriving career, the reality of 1962 is stark. Fox might have rehired her. She might have negotiated a larger salary (I remain on the fence about her "fabulous" deal, which had yet to be announced at the time of her death.) But even given those things happening, her personal issues were staggering. Between being fired the day after her birthday in June, and her death on August 4th, MM would have had to become utterly transformed in matters of drugs, drinking, professional behavior, her lifelong battle with insomnia, and the dicey personal relationships she had wandered into.

As she did not live to return to the set of "Something's Got To Give" we'll never know if such a miracle occurred.

Maybe it did. I wasn't there.

At least we have the "SGTG" footage, which shows her exquisite and hardly the monstrous diva of legend. However, it's only 12 days out of 24 shooting. She seemed quite engaged when she showed up. (In her defense, the script was so tired, so bad, she surely knew she was trapped in another George Cukor bomb. Her career was at stake with that film. If she was more than usually nervous, she had cause. Frankly, if anyone can be accused of "killing" Marilyn, I'd say the culprit was Cukor!)

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In my humble, but highly regarded opinion, she offed herself as she was getting too old and was beginning to sag. This was frightening to her as it's all she had going for her. When will women and Hollywood learn, sad.

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