IMDb boards need to be moderated and without them, the trolls are everywhere and with multiple accounts pretending to be various users to agree (or disagree, to make it believable) with him/herself (looking at you, Hershey/Hestia/Beta) so yeah, as much as it sucks I just hope they don't actually take down the boards.
Keep the boards readable at the very least, IMDb.
I'm surprised the anti-SJWs on YouTube haven't gotten pissed about this.
He and users like you are the reason this place is being shut down. Although, he is more laughably pathetic than you, so you can feel better that you're not down in his level. If that's much consolation for you.
The trolls only infest recent high profile releases. On other titles normal discussion easily outweighs the trolling and those will suffer the most by this decision.
There are ways of reducing the trolling without disabling the boards.
They could have simply hired volunteer moderators or, better yet, let some major company takeover the operation and have 24/7 supervision. This automated system that IMDb has in place was a joke from the start.
Though, the only good thing that came out of this is the fact that new users cannot post on the forums. So, the socks, trolls, and spammers can't make it worse than what it is now:
Though, the only good thing that came out of this is the fact that new users cannot post on the forums. So, the socks, trolls, and spammers can't make it worse than what it is now
That is a good thing. We have enough issues with trolls we currently have that are taking advantage of the site's message board shutdown. Kinda wished they kept it quiet until after they shut this place down. That announcement was like a dinner bell ringing for trolls.
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...that your brand of trolling has grown boring? You have nothing but juvenile insults and petty remarks that a pre-tween (not to be confused with pre-teen) would come up with and are of no use to me...or anyone with any maturity level that's over an 18 year old. I'll get back to you on the 21st. Maybe you will be less boring then.
Until then, piss off. You and this message board system has something in common, you're both redundant.
You certainly are, you "Ivan Reitman could save the series even though he's a past-it has-been" idiot with no idea of how to mount an argument and even less idea of how filmmaking works.
IMDb is NOT doing the right thing. Not even close to the right thing. This is what happens in a world where people have "safe spaces" instead of a backbone. I continually laugh at the fact that people can't learn to simply log off if they are offended, or simply not respond to a troll. It's like kindergarten. Instead the message boards are ruined for everyone, and the fact that a lot of people agree with what IMDb is doing is pathetic.
You made the whole goddamned world your "safe space".
What the hell does this even mean?
I tell someone who's being bullied to stand up to the bully. Everyone has been bullied in life. I tell them to fight back. You tell them to cower, cry, tattle, and whine.
...and this isn't real life...this is a damn message board! This is the internet! Turn it off if you don't like it! Ignore it if you don't like it! Once again...THIS IS THE INTERNET! This is not the same thing as being physically harmed and abused by a bully in the real world. If you don't answer or respond, these trolls cease to exist. It's not "staying silent" or "going away". It's called ignoring someone, and it's extremely easy to do, ESPECIALLY on the internet. This is hysterical that you equate internet trolls to real life bullies. Boo hoo while I play you a tune on the world's smallest violin. Spineless...absolutely spineless.
What you mentioned...by tattling to admins and getting the message boards banned for everyone, is absolutely NOT pushing back against bullies. It's being a crybaby.
Trust me, I know the whining snowflakes aren't going away...that's why I ignore them, just like most of the country while they cry, throw temper tantrums, and ruin everything for everyone else. Kindergarten...that's all it is...kindergarten. Congrats on ruining everyone else's enjoyment talking about movies because you can't ignore sock accounts.
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I mean there are certain people who I won't miss, BUT I have no feelings about this site's shutdown either way since I figure all things must end sometime.
That said, the only people who are evidently glad that this site's shutting down are butthurt people who can't stand being out of their "safe places" as you put it. IMDb message boards were not for the timid and thin skinned.
Tzoggy is a guy though, so the only reason why he's behind in the pay gap is for all the years he spent unemployed trying to promote his youtube channel before his parents told him to get an actual job.
I sincerely and humbly appreciate your thoughtful parting note. I'd been thinking of leaving one for you and Destinata as well.
From time to time, I encounter people with whom I've learned I have no choice but to fight, before they can decide whether I am worthy friend material.
I perceive you to have been one such person.
I believe that the way in which our dealings with each other unfolded, is the quintessential example of how two people who have an intense dislike for each other, can nevertheless find respect for each other.
Onward!
*sound of running topboots*
**Have an A1 day** I dedicate this final edit to you.
I think you'd like her if you got to know her. Most people do.
I, unfortunately, have thrown a bit of rancor into my posts on occasion. I shouldn't, because there's no reason to take any of this personally. I hope I haven't done that with you. If I have, I apologize.
When evil is viewed as good, righteousness is viewed as evil.
I think you'd like her if you got to know her. Most people do.
We've made arrangements to stay in contact.
I, unfortunately, have thrown a bit of rancor into my posts on occasion. I shouldn't, because there's no reason to take any of this personally. I hope I haven't done that with you. If I have, I apologize.
Water under the bridge. Here's to lifelong peace and wellness to you both.
When I first saw IMDb's statement saying they were shutting down the forums THIS board was the first one I thought about - and while it kind of is bittersweet (I've been reading and writing on these boards for well over a decade now), I really can't help feeling that it's for the best. Hate and vile crap is basically the main feature of any given movie's or actor's board nowadays, and it is ever so tiresome. I'll miss them, but only briefly.
Hate and vile crap is basically the main feature of any given movie's or actor's board nowadays
That's probably becuase these days the Directors even get involved and like to go on their Twitter accounts and call the entire fanbase *beep* or misogynists.
(These are the folks who also believed that "Love Trumps Hate"). Ironic that they'd be the source of the hate...
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Or are you still bitter that your leading lady failed miserably? 2016 was a sad year for feminist sjw warriors like you. Not only did your propaganda movie fail, but you lost the election, the house, the senate and soon the Supreme Court!
I know you hate Feig, but fact (the non-alternative kind) is that he didn't say/write bad things about the so-called fans of Ghostbusters until they had gone completely feral on him, his actors and his film. Did you even see or hear people talk about this movie, even LONG before it opened. People were animals! Tearing it apart, namecalling everyone involved and everyone who even dared utter something positive or even say thing like "maybe you could wait until you've seen it before flinging poo". I know, because these are things similar to what I tried telling people hating it seemingly out of general principle. And these benign comments earned me "cuck", "mangina" and other more explicit things in return. Feig's comments on this might have been harsh and said in affect, but boy were they warranted. Most people on THIS board. And sadly many others, disgust me, with their words and with their ignorance. Thanks for removing my last little smidge of nostalgia.
Go ahead, IMDb. You can close this can of worms now. Nobody wants this anymore.
I know you hate Feig, but fact (the non-alternative kind) is that he didn't say/write bad things about the so-called fans of Ghostbusters until they had gone completely feral on him, his actors and his film.
So you admit he's thin-skinned. Do you think Feig is the only person in Hollywood this happened to? Ask Michael Bay and ask Stephenie Meyer. He's called a sexist man-child who plays with too much explosions and she's considered one of the biggest hack writers of all time. Do you see any of them attacking their potential customers? No. People railing on films, directors, writers, and other creators of arts has been happening long before Feig decided he wanted to be a director and will happen long after we're all gone.
No, it was Feig who started this crap when he insulted people. If he's angry, fine, he has a right to be and no one should police how he feels, but he needed to keep his crap bottled up so his film can sell. It wasn't like anyone insulted his wife, which is what one of his defenders did to James Rolfe when he said didn't want to watch this movie.
True, from a purely marketing standpoint, Feig should have just shut his yap and let everybody tear him, his actors and his movie a new one. And maybe he IS thin skinned in that regard. But at the same time I can't help thinking that he was warranted his verbal outburst...at least to a certain degree. Was it smart? No, not at all. Was it stuff that needed to be said (and had alreday been said over and over again by other people in response to the vitriolic hate spewing from this board)? Yes! A thousand times, yes! I can't speak for everyone, but I never defended the film itself - until I had seen it - but I did, and still do, pounce on people judging stuff they have never seen. It's the most stupid thing ever, and people were hating this film, en masse, long before it ever came out.
This board, and others like it, is probably the main reason why the forums are shutting down. They no longer fill any positive use on this site, because people can't behave in a civil way.
True, from a purely marketing standpoint, Feig should have just shut his yap and let everybody tear him, his actors and his movie a new one.
That's not what happened. Sure, the movie was getting the usual contentious grumblings that follow every remake, but it didn't blow up until after Feig started flappin' his hands and throwing a hissy fit.
And maybe he IS thin skinned in that regard.
He's thin-skinned in every regard. He's a grown man with the manners of a repulsively spoiled child, and that;s why he disgusts me.
But at the same time I can't help thinking that he was warranted his verbal outburst...at least to a certain degree.
No, he wasn't. The people he's tying to bilk money from owe him absolutely nothing. He should be grateful for every scratched nickel.
Was it smart? No, not at all.
I don't care if it was smart, it was disgraceful behavior unworthy of a grown-ass man.
Was it stuff that needed to be said (and had alreday been said over and over again by other people in response to the vitriolic hate spewing from this board)? Yes! A thousand times, yes!
Horsesh!t. He took the 'geek culture' that had legitimate concerns with the first trailer that he himself admitted was awful and threw them under the same bus as the 'a$$holes.' He deserves every single thing that came his way after that.
I can't speak for everyone, but I never defended the film itself - until I had seen it - but I did, and still do, pounce on people judging stuff they have never seen.
I judged whether I wanted to see the movie based on the trailer. As with so many other remakes, I decided it looked like a pointless rehash in which I had no interest, and that decision was cemented by Feig's sanctimonious attitude. It has now become a point of principle with me never to watch this sh!thouse fire of a movie even for free on a rainy Sunday. What are you going to do, make me buy the DVD?
It's the most stupid thing ever, and people were hating this film, en masse, long before it ever came out.
There's a reason for that, which of course, you're blind to because you never gave a rat-sh!t in a rusty tin bucket about the hate coming from the movie. They were attacked in every form of media as the basement-dwelling virgin a$$holes of geek culture simply for loving the original and saying the trailer made this one look like day-glo garbage. They even pitied James Rolfes' wife simply because he refused to review the movie. Now, how the splintered f*@k do you expect people to react when you talk to them like that?!
This board, and others like it, is probably the main reason why the forums are shutting down. They no longer fill any positive use on this site, because people can't behave in a civil way.
F*@k civility. Manners do nothing for art. All they do is allow mediocre hacks like Feig to thrive unchallenged, and all IMDb is doing is capitulating to the banality they call a 'positive, useful experience.' They're dislocating their elbows patting themselves on the back over this, and it makes me want to throw up.
I give f*@k zero. It's like giving no f*@ks, only without the calories.
Ignore Natalia. She's an absolute liar and perpetual victim for life who's had it out for this movie since Paul Feig was announced as director near two and a half years ago and has let her anger towards a frivolous remake practically dictate her entire online life:
"Absolute liar"? Like saying you're leaving this board and then coming back? Enjoy your irrelevance as long as you can - your pretentiousness masquerading as intelligence and culture isn't fooling anyone
Oh, don't worry about me. Worry about yourself, baby, and ALL that free time you're gonna have in six days when you don't have IMDb to give yourself a voice anymore.
Although you get points for using words like "pretentiousness" and "masquerading". I'm sure that 99 Cent Store dictionary is gonna pay off for you one of these days.
There's a difference between a differing opinion and a forced one.
Ignore Natalia. She's an absolute liar and perpetual victim for life who's had it out for this movie since Paul Feig was announced as director near two and a half years ago and has let her anger towards a frivolous remake practically dictate her entire online life
^THIS.
Oh, and here's a motion picture about my puppy, a tennis ball, and an inflatable pool:
Well, when the director says "We're making a modern and progressive reboot"... but you see 4 women, no men, and 3 white ladies and one black... that's not really progressive or modern.
Adding in the "Girl Power" is just a crass move on the Director's part to try and win favor with a very small, but very loud, minority group.
So not only is the concept lost, the advertising right there alienates at a minimum, half of your audience.
What WOULD have been "modern and progressive" then? Btw, I liked it, modern or not. Didn't change my life or anything, but I thought it was a fun couple of hours.
Merely gender-swapping the characters around does not make a film modern nor progressive. They didn't even attempt to switch the ethnicities around. 3 white scientists form the company, and a black character without the scientific background joins them later. It's just lazy.
At a minimum, why not make the one black character a scientist?
Or how about instead of 3 white women, there's already a mix?
Most people that were complaining about the "gender swapping" were basically saying that they weren't interested when the original cast wasn't doing it and hollering about it not being right without Murray, Aykroyd, Ramis and Hudson... Indicating that had Ghostbusters 2016 been even LESS different than what it is, that would somehow have been ok. The "real Ghostbusters fans" obviously doesn't want new or different, and certainly not modern or progressive. They just want same ol' same ol'.
The "real Ghostbusters fans" obviously doesn't want new or different, and certainly not modern or progressive. They just want same ol' same ol'.
Wrong. Realisatically many of us knew that there was an expiration date on how much longer Murray, Aykroyd and the rest could do these movies. We were hoping for a passing of the torch film, ala Star Trek Generations. We got none of that.
I read hate before any trailer was released. Before any teaser was released.
I read hate as soon as the first still image became public.
The hate stems from the fact that the reboot was almost immediately announced after Harold's death. Basically, not waiting until his body turned cold. This was even before the cast was announced. People waiting all these years and were teased for a second Ghostbusters sequel. After Harold died, we were going to understand that a second sequel wasn't going to happen....then that dreadful reboot announcement came. This franchise needed a reboot about as much as Elvira needs a padded bra.
There's a scene late in the Danish movie "Dogville" where the entire town, after they've chained Nicole Kidman's character by the neck to an iron wheel to keep her from leaving the town and subject her to every physical (rape, beatings and taunts from children) and emotional (forced servitude) violation they can think up, blatantly deny their actions and maintain all the troubles are solely on her to keep from admitting (or understanding) the power of accountability.
That scene in "Dogville" is the "Ghostbusters" board (and every popular message board on IMDb) to a T, especially when taking evidence such as this into account:
A funny thing to keep in mind is that a number of the message boards where online civility is nonexistent always seem to include a person who's a frequent commentator on here.
There's a difference between a differing opinion and a forced one.
Amen (he said symbolically, being non religious). I'll miss intelligent and soul feeding conversations. Then again that hasn't been part of these boards for a long time.
Trolling is only a problem on some of the bigger boards. The issue here is removing the boards for more obscure movies and actors, hundreds of thousands of both.
They're not. IMDB has said several times if you want to keep old discussions you better save them before switch off. They will NOT be keeping any remains of the boards.
At best i can see them keeping a casual forum open instead of all the individual ones, but they're not going to. You and you like will have to take to social media to do you're trolling.
Highly doubt it. Col has stated several times that the boards do not work with whatever new software they've got in the works and it seems like none of the messages will be kept or accessible.
Pretty sure a generic message for the "board" pages will be put up as well for people and sites that have links to the boards.
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