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The Privitization of Water....


When I saw that clip about Bechtel owning all of Bolivia's water supply, which in turn created riots and looting, and an almost (though unsuccessful) revolution....I don't know; it totally scared the bejeezuz out of me. And you'd think, since water is a natural resources that is the main compnent of life as we know it, people would be outraged, and rightfully so. But then they interview that guy who says he literally thinks everything, and not just products or commodities, but EVERYTHING (water, air,rivers,fields, towns, dna etc) should be, and will be (eventually) owned by a corporation. That way, and I'm completely paraphrasing, "the corporations would know what to do with them." What? This documentary was an excellent expose, and I think it gave many insightful looks on the Corporation as legal entity. The only flaw I had was when they tried to personify a Corporation as being legally insane, which, although completely true, made the film a bit less stuctured.

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it was scary to me too when i first saw this movie. the water riots and listening to the guy talking about how everything should and will be privately owned one day. but it's really not that scary when you realize that this is an extremist viewpoint that will never see the light of day in actual policy. you have extremists like him who say that everything--rivers, lakes, mountains, air, etc. should be privately owned and extremists who say that everything should be collectively owned or not owned at all. these are extremist views on how things should work, and then you have how things actually work in the real world.

people like the guy advocating universal private ownership work on deductive reasoning. it's how classical and neoclassical economics works. you start with a simplified general rule (private ownership leads to increased incentive for responsible stewardship and improvement) and then apply it to all situations. whereas, an inductive approach would say, let's look at particular situations and see what we can learn from them. perhaps we can learn that particular situations call for actions that apply best to that particular situation and then come up with a general rule for when you encounter the same or similar situations elsewhere. it's a much more nuanced and realistic approach then the "one size fits all" extremist view.

that second, inductive approach is how our current system has been built--from years of trial and error in policy experience and accumulated data. for instance, the engine of innovation in the u.s. is intimately tied with government research grants into basic science research in universities such as MIT, stanford, carnegie mellon, etc. and government grants in research in particular technologies. from govt agencies such as the NIH, DARPA, and NASA. this is the dirty little secret that privatization advocates shy away from discussing. innovation is, to a large degree, socialized in the united states. private organizations can never hope to accumulate the amount of capital that the u.s. govt has at its discretion. for instance, until very recently, the NIH put billions more dollars into basic science research in medical science research than all of the R&D budgets of private medical companies combined. unless you are talking about extremely large companies, most privately owned companies are too focused by way of the profit motive and quarterly reports, competition, etc. to be able to accumulate large pools of capital, much less be able to direct that capital into research whose payoff will be 10, 20 years down the road, if ever.

perhaps privatization advocates know this and that's why they avoid discussions about it. they're not well known for their strident views on dismantling the university govt science research grant system. you have to pay attention to what they ARE advocating and why. such as private ownership of commodities. extending the scope of private commodity ownership if a far cry from anything to do with technology innovation.






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--Diogenes of Sinope

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But you missed a key point (and so did the film makers) - the problem with the situation in Bolivia was that the government gave a 100% universal monopoly on all water, including what fell from the sky, to a single company, and then defended it with guns. The following disaster was not a problem with public/private ownership, it was a problem with government monopoly. Advocates of private ownership would allow people to collect rain water on their land, and to sell it to others at competitive prices, and to import water and sell it, etc. None of this was allowed. You can't remove competition using guns and then call it capitalism.

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What I'm worried about is Coca-Cola or something winning the right to patent the molecule H2O. That would give them legal control over every bit of water in the world in each of its forms.

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Seeing that they can't even put an additive without getting labeled a cancerous drug, I don't think Coke has that much lobby power over the government...

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IMO Water is never gonna be privatized, rationed perhaps, but not privatized. People is willing to give away practically everything from their dignity to their freedom but they are never gonna be agree on giving away the mere base of human existance: The Water.
Anyway what can I see is that probably in the 2nd half of this century the wars are not gonna be fueled by the "thirst" for oil but by the need of water. One powerful nation with limited water-resources will no hesitate on invading and stealing the water-resources from a weaker nation.
So Canadians, Argentinians, Swedes, Finnish, watch out because you may be the next Iraq.

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