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What did they do to the Androids......?

posted 7 years ago by foxhound-37781
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The scene where Call is at the table with Johner and Christie wearing the boxing gloves and she tries to pick up the drink and spills it causing the two to get angry and yell at her and tell her to get lost.... That scene raises serious questions....

Do you guys think an Android THAT FAR into the future would really be programmed to be that immature and idiotic? In the first film Ash is a very serious and professional science officer. In the second film we see Bishop as a very competent team member and also takes his work professionally and seriously when it comes to science but then we get to this movie and it's like Call is basically programmed with the brain of a child (I mean seriously even Newt had more maturity than Call).... What gives?

There's over 200 years of separation between the first two films and this one and yet it seems like the androids mentality has just taken a huge step backwards... I don't know whether it has something to do with Call being one of those "special" types of droids (as in an android made by androids)....

What do you guys think?

[–] 7 years ago

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[–] foxhound-37781 7 years ago

Yeah which is why Joss Whedon is a failure when it comes to story writing. zero effort put into what he does

[–] YuunofYork 7 years ago

What? In the scene you're describing Call feigns drunkenness and purposely uses the boxing gloves to give her a reason to get up. Her objective is to sneak away to find Ripley and kill her. Her actions at the table are all an act giving her the excuse to do this.

This is confirmed in the DVD/BD commentary.

In the film I think Call is presented with eons of maturity on her fellow shipmates. I find nothing childlike about her, aside from what's imparted by Ryder's performance.

As for the context of android mannerisms/programming in the Alien filmic universe, the writers have gone out of their way to imply a progression towards not just artificial intelligence, but artificial humanity. Even Ash had menace and wit, and Bishop was conscientious and vulnerable. We learn Bishop is a newer model for no other reason than to establish this progression.

As for AI in a realistic setting, you could give it thousands of years and it would still never happen, so I'm prepared to suspend disbelief for it in films so long as it follows an internal logic.

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[–] Snake_MacReady82 7 years ago

What YuunofYork said.

Thit and thpin!

[–] mountaindewslave 7 years ago

Call being a droid is yet another terrible plot device because its ridiculous useless. If you were to program an android to the point where they genuinely thought they were a human they would begin to become far less useful in terms of taking advantage or their usefulness (i.e. employing them to do things humans don't want to, making them to repetitive tasks, etc.)

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