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Moonlanding: Real or Hoax?


The race to space was started to see who could get a ballistic missile into space first. The importance of that was simple. If the U.S. was able to get an intercontinental ballistic missile (ICBM) into space, and drift in low Earth orbit, then they can arm it with a nuclear warhead and be able to shoot a nuclear missile anywhere in the world, from anywhere in the world. Scary stuff, right? Only, Russia beat the U.S. to space with Sputnik. So, what was the State's reaction, moving the goal post. "Yeah, well, we can get to the moon before you fuckers!"

"What tactical advantage does the moon have?" Asked Russia.

Thinking, very hard and very long, the U.S. came up with an answer. "We can put a laser on the moon and use it to shoot your country!"

"Holy shit, we proud sons of Mother Russia cannot allow you Capitalist pigs to be able to set up military bases on the moon!"

And the race began. JFK announced we will be on the moon, for whatever reason, but he kind of played it off as some technical achievement for mankind. Maybe they actually thought they could install a laser on the moon. Who knows, James Kirk was too busy fucking hot green women to really care whether or not that was possible, feasible, tactically sound, and even worth using as an excuse to fuck hot moon bunnies.

Eventually, the U.S. got to the moon, beat the Russians, waved their big fingers at Russia and chanted, "neener, neener, neeeeeeeeeener......we beat you to the meeeeeeener......" And the big hand of patriotism waved as soldiers were being burned alive in the rice patties of some south Asian country.

And then..........nothing.

No more moon exploration. No military base or laser installation. Nothing. It's as if we all lost interest and moved on to other things. Like, burning bras, and doing cocaine. I mean, not bad choices, but different. You know. And we never talked about the moon again.

So was it real? I mean, how could we spend so much money to get to the moon, just to beat the Russians? It doesn't make any sense. It's like, I'm going to blow my wad on this peep show, then have nothing left in reserve for that hot hooker I already paid for and is waiting in my hotel room. Does any of that make any sense? NO! So what's the deal?

The only real explanation. We realized that there is no way we could get to the moon, so we faked it, just to stick it to the Ruskies. And then, pretended that it wasn't interesting anymore, so the Ruskies wouldn't pursue the laser on the moon strategy and the whole thing would get dropped. That's the only explanation for it.

Anyone disagree? If so, then you're a sheep who drank the American Kool Aide!

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Well, Mythbusters proved that the "evidence" it was a hoax (mainly pictures with weird shadows or whatever) doesn't hold up under scrutiny. So there's that. If you want to say they're capitalist pr***s paid to keep the hoax alive, so be it, but they had science on their side that the pictures could have come from a real moon landing.

I have to admit that it is weird that there hasn't been more done with the moon, however.

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We went to the moon but landed on a stage.USA used alien ships ours wouldn't work(that's a good one) ! Theres so many theories another is to get people attention from Vietnam.The press conference with buzz and neil and there other cohort tells me something is very wrong.Yikes they act like like there on trial for murder .Also when Neil was still alive don't talk about the moon(that was to airline pilots) and he never kept anything from it but yet he was very proud his X-15 flights maybe because those were real.Who knows Aliens on the moon scared the hell out of them.

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"Moon pie.....What a time to be alive." : Jasper (old coot) from The Simpson's

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I was going to cite that mythbuster's episode. they proved that the footage of the astronauts walking on the moon could not have been faked, the bouncy movements can only be replicated with the moon's weak gravity. They tried to replicate it with special effects, slowing down the film, etc, and could not do it.
I believe the moon landing was real and the real astronauts walked on the real moon.
If it cannot be faked, that only leaves one possibility: it was real.

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Yeah. It's been awhile since I saw that episode, so the details are a bit foggy, but I definitely remember that they busted the myth that is was a hoax. Especially since they're expects at special effects in addition to using science.

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And they even had access to more advanced special effects than would have been available in the 60's, and they STILL could not duplicate those shots at earth's gravity.
I feel like the people who believe it's a hoax just don't understand the science. Kind of like the flat earthers. An NBA player recently came out as a flat earther. His college scholarship failed him. It's sad.
Real science is pretty awesome and fascinating, I don't understand why people need to make stuff up to get interested in. Reality is interesting already!

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Wait... People still believe the Earth is flat?! 😵

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Yep. There are silly youtube videos where they explain their 'reasoning' which all basically boils down to "I do not understand science".
Of all conspiracies this one makes the least sense. If the earth was really flat, why would anyone pretend it was round? Who is profiting by maintaining the big lie about a globe shaped earth?
You can literally fly around the world or sail around the world.
We have flown thousands of planes, balloons, satellites and rockets high enough to take photos of the entire earth and it's always ROUND.
During a lunar eclipse, you can see the shadow of the earth on the moon and it's round.

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Ugh. People are stupid. 😣

At least in this case they're creative...

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I think it is a high possibility the moon landing was the biggest hoax in history.

Just take a look at the equipment they used for instance. The Apollo guidance computer had 64 kb (!) memory and operated at 0.043MHz. My toaster has more computer power than that.

Another thing is how incredibly important this was as a PR-stunt during the height of the cold war. If the americans could get away with a hoax they would have for sure.

There are also many other clues that point in direction of this being a huge big hoax.

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You know all those crazy pictures taken by the Hubbell Telescope was done with a 384Hz processor???? Crazy, right?

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Oh, my bad. Didn't check earlier to see that you are one of those a bit more sophisticated kind of trolls. Have a good day.

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I'm not sure if I should take that as a compliment, but thank you?

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I'll bite. What's there on the Moon to go back for? They got their rocks and stuck it to the Russians, so what's the point. I doubt they could've put a Death Ray on the Moon to target Russia. And there's the whole "Unite the nation under a common goal, but a less murdery one" thing.

And I'm sure that if it was all a hoax the Russians would've revealed it by now. What with all the spies and them keeping a close eye on what the Americans were doing up there.

Unless... the USA and the USSR were in league this whole time and they have a secret joint Moon base. Right next to the Moon Nazis!

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Kind of my thinking as well. If you do not want to take NASA at its word then competing powers would be aching to reveal it as a hoax. Russia, Japan, and Western Europe most likely would have the means back in the day to know that the Apollo missions in fact made it to the moon and landed there. Also, there is the fact that there were so many in NASA involved on those projects and with thousands upon thousands of people participating I don't know how you would keep a hoax a secret for over 45 years. Revealing the landings as a hoax would have been such a Cold War coup that the communist world would have anted up millions of dollars to get someone to spill the beans.

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Somebody said at one point that the grey aliens pre-determined that the USA would be the one to successfully go to the moon while the Soviets were instructed to stay home.

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Stanley Kubrick photos are the best !

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oh boy... another one of you types (read: assholes)...

no matter:

the soviet union, which tried everything to get there first, monitored all radar tracking, optical/telescopic tracking, and even timed the radio response delay times (roughly 1/3 of a second from the moon to the earth and vice versa).

if any entity had a reason to disprove the US accomplishments at the time, the USSR was it... and they could not do so.

for once, "pravda" had to tell the truth.



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whiskeyTango- "another one of you types" LOL My thoughts exactly. If the Russians had the slightest inkling that NASA was faking it, they would have been the first to blab it to the world!!

I am old enough to remember all those splashdowns and you could see the Russian "fishing trawler" in the background. Cronkite would always say that it had just radioed "Congratulations". Yeah the USSR wasn't paying TOO close attention to our space program.

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actually the moon is a hologram projection, which is why it doesn't rotate.

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Acutally we are all living in a simulation ;-)

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I think this has been solved in 2012 when Moon orbiter took pictures of flags americans left behind on the Moon.

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"And then..........nothing."

As far as most civilians know...

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