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This is the George Clooney movie that tells of a branch of the US military that was tracking down looted artworks in the aftermath of world war 2. But what the movie didn't show was that American forces did their fair share of looting themselves. This is an example of a historical film that lies by omission -
http://barnesreview.org/pdf/TBR_2014_no6_6-11.pdf

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I'm sure British, and French, and Russian soldiers looted also

Is there a point to your post??

Just more American bashing by a typically insecure Britisher




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Just more American bashing by a typically insecure Britisher

No, he's well known on the History board as a fascist apologist and holocaust denier, no idea where he's from but he's an equal opportunities allies basher.

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foster11 said "is there a point to your post?" Yes, there is a point. That Hollywood is run by two faced hypocrites. World War 2 ended 70 years ago and they are still making movies about former enemy countries but produce nothing about comparable crimes committed by Americans. They have a holier than thou attitude. The Americans not only stole many artworks but also the patents to many scientific discoveries which in the long run were worth billions - www.wintersonnenwende.com/scriptorium/english/archives/articles/patents.html

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Well Hollywood hasn't exactly done any movies of the Rape of Prussia / Eastern Germany by the Soviets...

There is a German movie called German Pale Mother (English Translation) in which a German widow is raped by two American GIs.

Yes, some American, Brits, and French troops committed violent acts against the Germans, but nothing even remotely anywhere close to the scale of Soviet state sponsored retribution against Germany - especially German women.

Most Germans fled the Soviet advances towards the German heartland / Allied lines. And to your point about science: Nazi scientists like Wernher von Braun did not want to be captured, but for them it was better to be captured by the Allies then the Soviets. Von Braun helped establish U.S. rocketry!

Also, lest we forget that the U.S. pretty much financed the rebuilding of Europe, especially Germany, after the war.


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"Soviet state sponsored retribution against Germany"

Er, retribution for what...?

Marlon, Claudia and Dimby the cats 1989-2005, 2007 and 2010.

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For what? Really? For invading the USSR and causing World War II and the mass devastation in Eastern Europe. Derp!

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Every country that invaded Germany did that, why single the Sovs out?

Marlon, Claudia and Dimby the cats 1989-2005, 2007 and 2010.

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The British, Canadians, French, and Americans did not have state sanctioned abilities to rape and pillage; the Soviets did! Stalin, and the media gave the Soviets carte blanche rights towards taking retribution against German civilians. East Prussia bore the brunt of the Soviet scorn. Soviet soldiers raped millions of German women, it is one of the worst mass rapes in all of history. While there were some bad apples in the allied armies, they certainly did not treat the German populous as cruelly as the Soviets. The raping was so bad that shortly before the Soviets reached Berlin, Stalin ordered his Front commanders to start exerting pressure on their soldiers to curtail their barbaric behavior. Stalin even threatened Ilya Ehrenburg (the famous Soviet journalist / author was was famous for rousing the troops against the Nazis) to cease and assist his writings egging on Soviet Soldiers to seek revenge; because, Stalin was preparing for post-war East Germany. However, very few Soviet soldiers, especially the second line and the rear echelon types, stopped raping and pillaging until well after the war. While the western Allies believed in non fraternization, and there were some rapes and a bit of war loot pillaged, the western Allies did not participate in the same sort of savagery as the Soviets.

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