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My final thoughts about movies discussed on this board


1. Scream redefined the slasher genre and resurrected horror, which was dying in the early '90s.
2. The Sixth Sense is most definitely a horror film.
3. Final Destination are not horror films, they are supernatural thrillers.
4. Black Swan is most definitely a horror film.
5. The Conjuring 2's only improvement over the first film is that its characters are more vivid and well drawn-out.
6. The first 22 minutes of the Friday the 13th remake are incredible.
7. Sarah Michelle Gellar (in I Know What You Did Last Summer) had one of the most iconic and legendary chase scenes of all time!
8. Scream 4 is just as great as the first 3.
9. The Texas Chainsaw Massacre remake is really, really great.
10. Alligator is underrated AF.

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Scream did not redefine the slasher film. It used the exact same formula as before: young kids as protagonists, each one dies one-by-one, final girl at the end. The only thing Scream did is give the subgenre gloss. That's not a refining contribution.

Also, horror wasn't dying. It was just going into hibernation, which is something the horror genre goes through periodically. Scream did bring the horror genre back to being popular, but that's not quite the same thing as a resurrection.

I disagree with you about Black Swan. There's just no way I can see that film as a horror film. It might be 15% horror, but that's it. Of course, there is a view of horror today that I don't subscribe to where issues of mental illness (such as not knowing if what a character is experiencing is real) are considered properties of the horror film. It's fine if you see it as horror, but I don't.

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Scream was the first 'major' meta slasher, though craven had made a meta film before in 1994 with new nightmare

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Horror was dying before scream. Most films were psychological or were supernatural films. Scream kinda brought back the basics in a simple way

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1. Yes. Yes it did.
2. Though most define horror for themselves, I agree completely.
3. Very true, but I love them. And the presence of Tony Todd justifies the classification.
4. I have not seen Black Swan, but I have heard good things.
5. I haven't seen Conjuring 2 (yet) but it's on my list and I can't wait.
6. I agree now. At first, I thought it was a copout, but on repeated viewings, it's a great way to set it up.
7. Yep. That made for the best element of suspense.
8. Yes it was. But I loathed Courtney Cox in every installment. More than I was supposed to loathe her. I REALLY loathed her.
9. Best. Remake. Ever.
10. I've never seen Alligator. But somehow it doesn't look appealing to me.

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