Rate these fictional characters - Robin Hood, Sherlock Holmes, Dracula, Frankenstein
4. Robin Hood
3. Frankenstein
2. Dracula
1. Sherlock Holmes
4. Robin Hood
3. Sherlock Holmes
2. Frankenstein
1. Dracula
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Holmes is the only one I've continued to find interesting as I grow older.
Dracula and Frankenstein are just monsters, meant to symbolize our fears, and Robin Hood symbolizes our hope of a fairer world. But Holmes comes across as a real person with a real issues, and the original stories stand the test of time. Conan Doyle still has something to say to an age when people know more about autism spectrum disorders and what The Closet can do to people, than they did in the late 19th century.
The Sherlock Holmes stories are mostly told through Watson's voice as the narrator and they usually focus on the case that the duo are working on. When the case is over, Watson goes back to his wife and Holmes might be visiting a widow or the brothel. The reader doesn't know what goes on in Holmes' private life since Watson is not with Holmes at all hours of the day. There might be a couple stories told through Holmes' voice but the reader usually doesn't get into Holmes' head.
There isn't any evidence of Sherlock Holmes being in the closet or having homosexual encounters since the stories focus on the cases. Sherlock Holmes is in the public domain so there are all these wacky interpretations and Lucy Liu even played Watson at one point. While I am critical of most of these modern adaptations, I will confess that I laughed at Holmes & Watson.
An argument could be made that Holmes is on the autistic spectrum BUT there wasn't a term for autism back then. Also, Holmes might have been all business when he was on the cases with Watson. Once again, these stories are not recollections from Holmes' perspective so we never get inside his head.
We don't know what was up with Holmes. He doesn't behave like a normal heterosexual male in his personal life, so these days everyone is projecting their own POV and modern understanding onto him.
Which is the point I was trying to make - that people are still taking enough of an interest in him to analyze him from a modern POV - unlike the ! And thinking that maybe he's closeted gay, or asexual, or a heterosexual who doesn't like women, or on the autism spectrum, or otherwise aneurotypical, because he seems *real* enough that someone could plop him on a Neuropsychologists's couch or shove him in a PET scanner! So not true of the others on the list, who are just embodiments of fears of fantasies, and not people.
There is no such thing as a normal heterosexual male and the culture of Victorian England was different than modern cultures. The stories written by Sir Arthur Conan Doyle do not focus on Sherlock Holmes' personal life so readers should not speculate on a personal life that does not appear in the text. Modern people should not make judgments about people from the past using today's values.
There were records of several outlaws who used the name Robin Hood back in ancient times so historians cannot say with certainty that Robin Hood did not exist. Frankenstein, Dracula and Holmes are all literary creations from the 1800's while Robin Hood was a folktale that eventually appeared everywhere. Robin Hood was a hero to the downtrodden peasants who suffered under a tyrannical English monarchy.
https://www.history.com/topics/european-history/robin-hood
https://www.nationalgeographic.co.uk/history/2019/02/who-was-the-real-robin-hood#:~:text=Because%20Hunter%20and%20other%2019th,who%20inspired%20the%20popular%20stories.
Oh for fuck's sake, you think fans shouldn't discuss Holmes's private life, or look at him through the lns of their own knowledge and values??? Who the fuck made you Chief of the Fandom Police!
Don't bother to reply. I'm giving up on this conversation.
I'm actually a fan of the original source material and I hate to see modern day morons defecate on classic literary heroes. The modern mob wants to tear down classic heroes but I'm here to protect their legacy.
shareTough beans if you hate the way other people look at Holmes, because you don't have any control over how they express their interest!
That's it from me, this conversation is over.
I'm not done yet so it ain't OVER 'til it's OVER! Also, I never said that I hated the way others view Holmes. I will continue to educate people on the deviations from the source material that viewers see from Hollyweird. Hollyweird has never represented reality and I will fight to preserve the legacy of significant/iconic characters and people.
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