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Londinium here I come! πŸ‡¬πŸ‡§


Drove up Friday evening. Tomorrow: Buckingham Palace, Houses of Parliament, Big Ben, London Bridge, London Eye, Shrek Adventure, Thames River Boat, China Town (Chinese food, slurp πŸ˜‹) - a full day!

[EDIT] Day 2 - Natural History Museum & Harrods.

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Most Americans, I think, confuse London Bridge with Tower Bridge.

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I think I may be guilty of this...

I always think of that bridge they shot the opening scene of 28 Days Later at anytime anyone mentions a London Bridge

Just looking it up now and it seems to be called Westminster Bridge...I skipped school the day they taught us Yanks about Thames River Bridges πŸ˜„

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I love the architecture of London

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I've never been there, but it's on 'the list'

I'd like to see that Palace in person

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Summer of 1968, I was nine years old

I'd say I was due for a re-visit!

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Let me know when you plan to go. I’ll happily act as a tour guide.

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So do most British people.

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Have fun dude!

And good for you, we have a long standing (and true!) joke here that native New Yorkers never visit the Statue Of Liberty and Ellis Island lol

Weird but true

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https://i.pinimg.com/736x/7d/f7/e5/7df7e57dec32b2490cc6ad7e0057f836.jpg

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πŸ˜†Strange guy but he can be very funny

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I’ll keep you updated.

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We’re currently on The Tattershall Castle (the pub boat on the Thames) for lunch and a couple of scoops for me.

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Very cool, I googled it

Swanky place and the castle is impressive too, like out of a kid's storybook

Happy trip to you and the family Andy🍺🍺

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It’s this one: -
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PS_Tattershall_Castle

We’re now in Greenwich on the Thames cruise.

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Something to do in Greenwich

google.com/search?tbm=isch&q=prime+meridian+greenwich

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We invented time!

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Been there - it's fun to stand on the line.

When we were there I tried to find more information on the old Tudor palace that no longer exists, but at that time there wasn't a whole lot available.

It's where Henry VIII and his daughters were born and where Anne Boleyn was arrested.

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Yes, that's the one I found on line, they have a website too

Did you have the 'Tea Time' appointment?
As a Yank I love when our English buddies say 'Tea Time'
It sounds classy and foreignπŸ˜„

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Erm…it was more a beer time appointment, but we can call it β€˜tiffin’ if you like, lol.

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'Tiffin?'. Goshdarn it Andy, now I have to google another thing LOL!

Are we sure we speak the same language😁?

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It’s a posh word for teatime - I’m not making this up, lol.

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I love it, The English confuse the hell out of us Americans with English πŸ˜†

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Sorry, that should have read - I’m not making this up, lol.

That’s what happens when you type on a boat.

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No worries Amigo, I got your message clear

'Don't Type And Boat' sounds like a slogan πŸ˜‰

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Back on dry land now. Normal service will resume πŸ€ͺ

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Walked up to Chinatown. Now in Gerrard’s Corner (Gerrard Street) with a cool Tsing Tao in front of me 🍻

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Looking at it now on Google street view. Corner of Gerrard and Wardour.

In my head Wardour sounds like Mordor

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There you go my precious: -
https://youtu.be/fZeK2gY9fP8

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I see a number of theatres. Is this part of the famous West End?

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Correct - Leicester Square morphs into Theatreland, which morphs into Chinatown and then Soho.

Round the corner is Piccadilly Circus.

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I looked it up, great architecture , very pretty

Get some eggrolls buddy and tell us how they areπŸ‘

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Gerrard’s Corner is our favourite place in Chinatown - you can order anything, it’s all good.

Now back at the hotel, full of Chinese beer, Chinese food and ready for bed.

Natural History Museum and Harrods tomorrow.

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Sounds like a solid plan!

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Only a 30 minute wait in the sunshine to get into the Natural History Museum. We’re about half way round and are taking a pit stop at the coffee shop (for tiffin, lol).

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EnjoyπŸ˜„

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I just learned that Thomas Jefferson’s parents lived on the Thames.

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The Revolutionary era has always been a big interest for me, I figure the revolt and ensuing war broke up a lot of Colonial families owing to divided loyalties

Hard numbers are questionable but it is claimed that 20-30% of the Colonists were actually Loyalist if a bit pissed about taxation and so on...interesting stuff to read about

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If I could go back in time I would have had a word in George III’s ear and said β€˜just bloody give them representation’. Modern day history would be like Star Trek by now I reckon.

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Maybe so

From what I've read about Georgie he wasn't such a bad sort

He bested the French in the 'French And Indian War' as we call that episode here and was supposedly a loyal husband and fine father to his family...in other words a 5%er with cred and the people loved him

He did eventually go insane (historians claim that medication and cosmetics contained toxic chemicals at the time)

Anyway, he doesn't come off as a bad guy, more a victim of happenstance and being a bit rigid with his colonies

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> Hard numbers are questionable but it is claimed that 20-30% of the Colonists were actually Loyalist

I've heard similar things, that about 1/3 were sympathetic to revolution, 1/3 were loyal to the king, and 1/3 just didn't give a shit. Also, there were quite a few in Parliament who were sympathetic to the colonists' complaints. If historian Pauline Maier has it right, if it had been possible to put a trans-Atlantic phone cable in place and enable real-time communications between Britain and North America, the revolution could have been averted as late as April 1776.

This is a good book, by the way: https://www.amazon.com/American-Scripture-Making-Declaration-Independence/dp/0679779086

It's been a long time since I read it and I need to give it another look. One thing I specifically remember is something she wrote about the language style in the Declaration of Independence. The document lists reasons for the separation, stating that King George had done this bad thing, he had done this other bad thing, et cetera. Well, when a loyal Englishman petitioned the government for a redress of grievances, he did not complain against the monarch personally -- the complaint was that the King's ministers had done bad things. Stating that the King himself had wronged the colonists was a deliberate choice -- in Maier's words, it was "the language of treason."

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Thank you for the link, I'm very nerdy about history so this one seems like a must readπŸ‘

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many of the Loyalists moved to Canada

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Yes, and a great many escaped slaves sailed off to the UK, the UK was offering a way better deal

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> I just learned that Thomas Jefferson’s parents lived on the Thames.

Sorry Andy, but whoever told you that was at least half-misinformed. I don't think being related to Jefferson makes me a better person, but it has made me curious enough to read quite a lot about him over the years. Thomas's mother, Jane Randolph, was indeed born in London, in "Shadwell parish, Tower Hamlets." [*] When she married Peter Jefferson they named their home Shadwell, after her birthplace. Whether that part of London is on the Thames or not, I couldn't say. But Thomas's father was born in Virginia. IIRC, his grandfather also was, and while his great-grandfather was from Great Britain he died in Virginia.

On a side note, I hope this trip means your COVID travel restrictions have been relaxed! I don't think I could have taken that sort of a lockdown.

[*] https://www.monticello.org/site/research-and-collections/jane-randolph-jefferson

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> we have a long standing (and true!) joke here that native New Yorkers never visit the Statue Of Liberty and Ellis Island lol

That's not just in New York. I lived in the DC suburbs for about ten years, and the only times I went to see tourist stuff was when out-of-town friends visited.

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It's funny yet true
No matter where you live it seems a normal habit to not do 'touristy' stuff

I bet most Parisians have never gone up the Eiffel Tower and the Chinese don't hang around The Great Wall...People are funny like that

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My sister went to London when she was "doing Europe" and said it was a hole. I guess she didn't know where the good parts were. The place she liked the most was Yugoslavia. Go figure.

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London is one of my favourite cities in the world. She must have taken a wrong turn, which is easily done.

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I loved London, but it was also awesome to have a day just chilling in Kensington Gardens and Hyde Park. Saw a really cool exhibit in one of the Serpentine galleries.

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There’s a lot to see here.

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You are so fortunate to be able to easily visit London - it's my favorite city in the world. Back in the 90's we frequently visited England, but it's been a long time since we were there - the London Eye wasn't built yet.

I'm an English history buff, especially the Tudor dynasty, (has nothing to do with the silly, but somewhat entertaining Showtime show - The Tudors.). I'm a descendent of Thomas Wyatt and that's how I got interested in them.

Someday I'll go back and see some of the places I've missed - Brighton and the nearby areas along the coast, Hever Castle, Blenheim Palace, and Cornwall.

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Don’t forget β€˜Sunny’ Bournemouth.

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Of course and I'll look you up!

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We’ll be happy to receive you - we have plenty of room.

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I have a faint memory of feeding pigeons in Trafalgar Square Γ  la the song in Mary Poppins. I just looked it up and it seems this is discouraged now, for understandable reasons. Still, it was wonderful for kids.

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The pigeons are still there.

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are going anywhere near Abbey Road?

https://www.earthcam.com/world/england/london/abbeyroad/?cam=abbeyroad_uk

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Not on this visit.

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I’ll introduce the little one to The Beatles and then we can do the iconic photo and piss all the motorists off.

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i thought you could give us a wave.

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We need a fourth member.

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I’ve just twigged - you posted about the Abbey Road livecam a few weeks ago (it only took a day for the penny to drop).

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are you watching the soccer?

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No, we’ve just finished eating in Chinatown. My moneys on Man City - they’re on fire right now.

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Man City is losing 1-0

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Shows how much I know, lol.

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