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What If Drugs Aren't as Bad as We've Been Told?


https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/drugs-arent-bad-weve-told-204430007.html

Near the beginning of Dr. Carl Hart’s new book, Drug Use for Grown-Ups: Chasing Liberty in the Land of Fear, you learn that he has studied and worked as a “drug abuse scientist” for more than twenty-five years—and that he’s entering his fifth year as a “regular heroin user.”

Maybe not what you’d expect from a neuroscience Ph.D. and Columbia psychology professor. But that is, after all, what he’s getting at in his book. Many of the ideas we have about drugs are all wrong, he says. Hart had his own preconceptions when he began his job as a drug abuse researcher, but the harmful effects he expected to find never materialized.

“Here’s the bottom line: over my more than twenty-five-year career, I have discovered that most drug-use scenarios cause little or no harm and that some responsible drug-use scenarios are actually beneficial for human health and functioning,” he writes.

Many of our misguided fears about drugs, Dr. Hart argues, began largely as a result of American racism. Up until the early years of the twentieth century, “Americans were free to alter their consciousness with the substances of their choice.” Then, fear of intermingling between Chinese and white Americans in opium dens, and racist sensationalizing exaggerating the harms of cocaine, led to the 1914 Harrison Narcotics Tax Act. (Among the most odious and ridiculous of these assertions, Hart writes, was one that “prompted some southern police forces to switch to a larger .38-caliber weapon in order to deal with the mythical black, cocainized superhuman.”) The Harrison Act, and the racial rhetoric stoked to buoy its passage, would set the tone for America’s discriminatory drug policy and enforcement in the last century.

Because these attitudes have also shaped our societal beliefs about drugs, Dr. Hart argues, many of the behaviors we regularly attribute to substances—from the likelihood of addiction to the “notion that recreational drugs cause brain dysfunction”—in fact have other causes. Drugs, he writes, “are inert substances,” whose abuse is usually the result of co-occurring conditions, be those psychological or circumstantial. Their use, Hart believes, should be allowed for grown-ups—“by that I mean autonomous, responsible, well-functioning, healthy adults”—as part of the American right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

Though it’s common these days to hear the argument that America’s approach to drugs is deeply racist, flawed, and overdue for correction, it’s also hard to imagine a world where we can all do drugs freely. So GQ asked Dr. Hart to help imagine what that world might look like, and how we can fix our drug problem—which is not a problem with drugs, he says, but with our ignorance about them.

GQ: What's wrong with the current and historical relationship to drugs in our society?

Dr. Carl Hart: We don't think of these drugs in rational terms. We think of these particular drugs as producing unique effects and it's just not true. But when you do that, when you think of these drugs as producing these unique effects, the response is not rational. When we think about when these drugs were banned, we can see this even more clearly.

When we think about cocaine, for example, we banned it for irrational reasons, for reasons of American racism. Same thing with opioids. We paired these drugs with the behavior of groups we didn't like, and behavior that we exaggerated, like crime, like Black men being with white women. So the drugs became more about these other issues that were sadly exaggerated. And so we're still doing that today.

We're looking at these drugs in unrealistic terms. And what I'm trying to do is to have a conversation, or to get people to think about the drugs from a rational, reasonable perspective. Like, cocaine does not produce superhuman strength, heroin does not cause you to be addicted after one or even a couple of hits. And it doesn't take over your life. When we say things like that, that's just simply not true.

That was one of the big revelations in the book to me, that according to the stats you lay out, it doesn't seem like addiction is maybe as inevitable a problem as it's portrayed. [In the book, Dr. Hart points out that most users—usually between 90 and 70 percent—of any drug will not become addicted.]

That's one of the biggest myths, that the majority of people who use something like heroin or crack cocaine or cocaine in general are addicted—it’s simply not true. It is true that people can become addicted. There are a certain percentage of people who become addicted. But even when they become addicted, the addiction has little to do with the drug itself, and has more to do with these other environmental, psychosocial, and personal factors. People may have co-occurring psychiatric illnesses, co-occurring pain, a wide range of things that's driving the addiction, if we look past the drug.

I think this is a point wo

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Imagine if i read all that , thought about it , constructed logical couterpoints and invested loads of time entering the debate.

... and then found out Dr Hart is an obviously crazy crackpot who no serious scientist of doctor agrees with.
I'd feel i'd wasted my time.

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thank you

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I agree with him about drugs not being fairly considered. Often it's only the negative scenarios the ones that are considered, while those people who benefit of them are dismissed.

Then... he has to link it to "racism"? WTF?? Seriously???

I'm just waiting to see how long until dinosaur extinction is linked to racism. 😂😂😂

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Marijuana only became illegal after immigrants (mainly mexican) started to make a profit from their crop.

Prohibition of alcohol became a part of the constitution after recent european immigrants, many of them catholic and/or not English, began starting profitable business using the brewing and distilling techniques that had been perfected in the old countries.

Moral panic was used as the excuse to prevent certain types of people from achieving the American dream. Typically, "moral" crusades in the US have all had a racial element or motivation to them.

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Marijuana only became illegal after immigrants (mainly mexican) started to make a profit from their crop.

In Europe the marijuana started to be illegalized during the second half of the XIXth century. And guess what? There were no mexicans! How could that be!!

You're just looking for racism everywhere so you find racism everywhere. A feminist would find that it was men the ones that illegalized it, so it was the evil heteropatriarchy the ones that did it! because they hated women!! And so on. Same story as usual. Yawwwn.

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Nope.

Its use was prohibited at that time among those serving in the military around the world empires and it was banned in the european colonies, in order to suppress the natives and their ability to trade in it.

All other prohibition in Europe and neighbouring areas at that time was related to wars between nations.

It did not become expressly outlawed in the UK until well into the 20th century when it was associated with sailors from overseas. Non-white ones of course.

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Marijuana started to be outlawed in Europe during the late XIXth century. In Greece it was outlawed in 1890, and guess what? there was no mexicans. Turkey outlawed it during the XIXth century. No mexicans there neither. Who would have imagined?

The prohibition of marijuana happened all along western and non-western countries during the late XIXth and early XXth century. It was NOT due to some local conflict in US with mexicans. Contrary to what you seem to think, US is not center of the world.

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He's not wrong. To understand how we ended up here, it is important to go back to what was happening in the United States in the early 1900’s just after the Mexican Revolution. At this time we saw an influx of immigration from Mexico into states like Texas and Louisiana. Not surprising, these new Americans brought with them their native language, culture and customs. One of these customs was the use of cannabis as a medicine and relaxant.

Mexican immigrants referred to this plant as “marihuana”. While Americans were very familiar with “cannabis” because it was present in almost all tinctures and medicines available at the time, the word “marihuana” was a foreign term. So, when the media began to play on the fears that the public had about these new citizens by falsely spreading claims about the “disruptive Mexicans” with their dangerous native behaviors including marihuana use, the rest of the nation did not know that this “marihuana” was a plant they already had in their medicine cabinets.

The demonization of the cannabis plant was an extension of the demonization of the Mexican immigrants. In an effort to control and keep tabs on these new citizens, El Paso, TX borrowed a play from San Francisco’s playbook, which had outlawed opium decades earlier in an effort to control Chinese immigrants. The idea was to have an excuse to search, detain and deport Mexican immigrants.

That excuse became marijuana.

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The demonization of the cannabis plant was an extension of the demonization of the Mexican immigrants.

Think twice about it. If that was the case, the demonization of cannabis would have been something particular of US. On the contrary, it was a worldwide trend. Interpreting a worldwide trend that started in the late XIXth century as caused by some local US conflict happening in the early XXth century doesn't make sense.

Mexico itself prohibited marijuana too. Indeed, they prohibited marijuana years before US did. Perhpas, was Mexico demonizing mexicans?

Besides that, if being brought by mexicans led to demonization, mexican food would have been demonized too. And it doesn't seem to me that tacos and burritos are particularly demonized in US.

The mexican theory has too many problems to hold, not to say it happens to be too convenient to the current white-guilt narrative. Let's remember: correlation doesn't mean causation.

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Dr Hart was on Rogan’s Spotify show recently and he did raise many good points.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qlSfIrbu6OM

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Hard drugs = more crime though.

For an addict they completely destroy your life and relationships. (Been there, done that).

For the fortunate few who can take their drug of choice and control their intake then he probably has a point.

It sounds like he's trying to justify his own addiction.

Also, to say that opium houses were commonplace until about 100 years ago, which they were in Britain too is a redundant argument. This is before the harmful affect of drugs was known. Much like how cigarettes used to be marketed as a health benefit and makeup using lead and arsenic.

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It sounds like he's trying to justify his own addiction.


Remember when we were kids and our parents told us to not do drugs? We've gotten to the point where people don't do drugs, they're just "experimenting" and addicts are people with a "disease." What happened to the days where our parents were telling us it was a choice?

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And even IF they aren't, is it really worth the risk to try and take them and become addicted?

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My motto is: don't start and you never have to worry about quitting.

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The problem is, multitudes think quitting is no big deal. The biggest and the strongest have been laid waste.

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I agree. That's why I think it's important to teach people at a young age. Let some former drug addicts come into class and talk about how difficult it is to quit.

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Yep. 😉

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I've seen first hand, the absolute, ravaging, life shattering, family destroying devastation that drugs and alcohol do, so no.

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"so no" doesn't make sense.

P.S. - alcohol is a drug

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Simply put, drugs and alcohol (I know alcohol is a drug but most people don't refer to it as such) are a bad idea. I've never met a soul who wouldn't be better off without them, excluding medical usage, of course but even that is WILDLY abused. Thus, "so no".

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The point of the article is that millions shouldn't have to suffer because a few are irresponsible.

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MILLIONS are irresponsible with far reaching, devastating results.

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Just like many other things. That's freedom.

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Indeed.

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i completely disagree!

you now know me, and i've had many many positive experiences with lots of drugs, and my life would have been much less rich without those.

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How do you know that?

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because they were great, enlightening experiences that i really value, and i know they changed my perspective on life in really important ways. and because i had a lot of fun. i don't have a lot of fun as a tired, old man, and i'm glad that i did have those experiences in the past and hopefully i'll get to have a few more.

if you don't want that stuff, i'm not out to change your mind.

but you shouldn't take those opportunities away from other people.

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The thing is, it's Russian roulette. I'd say the vast majority of people who's lives have been ended or ruined by drugs never thought that's how it would play out. No junkie sets out to become a junkie. You're one of the lucky ones whom I assume got away unscathed. I'm no prude and I've done my share. The biggest benefit I got out of it was realizing how great unimpaired life is.

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there's no such thing as life without risk.

& i'm all for helping people who become addicts. or who have all kinds of other problems.

but i wouldn't want to take away all the positive things that come from any experience because there is a risk of a bad outcome.

lots and lots of people get divorced and have miserable outcomes from marriage. or have bad relationships. we shouldn't take from that that people shouldn't try to have romantic relationships.

i think it's important to emphasize hart's point that it is far from the majority of people who become addicts.

i respect every individual's agency & their freedom to choose what they want to do and how they want to live their life. i wouldn't expect anyone to live the way i do other than me, and i wouldn't want to live the way other people do. i want everyone to live their life as they see fit.

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I get your point but I'm sure, to you "living as they see fit" doesn't including hurting or killing others which drugs and alcohol do, in HUGE numbers.

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definitely not, but i don't think that changes my point. allowing people freedom doesn't mean i think people shouldn't be held accountable for the predictable, logical outcomes of their actions.

i don't want anyone to drive drunk, & i'm all for persecuting those people with alacrity! but i wouldn't want to stop anyone from drinking if that's what they want to do.

i have to go back to pretending to work now. happy posting to you, regardless of our differences...

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Enjoy your day!

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Drugs are bad. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWg2R8u8ly4

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I agree with you. They are.

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very interesting interview with him here.

https://podcasts.apple.com/bm/podcast/carl-hart-drug-use-for-grown-ups/id1485021241?i=1000505970599

i strongly support his message.

whatever you believe when it comes to drug use for himself, his point on coke/crack/heroin is absolutely correct. lots and lots of people can and do use them and don't get addicted, and have positive experiences. i don't think that they should be punished for that or have that taken away from them.

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Frankly I am never using marajuana, Cocain, Heroin, or any other bad drug. Marajuana is legal in my state. But I ain't ever using it.

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Maybe it would help you spell better :)

That's the point - you should have the freedom to NOT do them, too, despite peer pressure, etc...

Why not shut down all bars? People drive to the bar, and they're drinking, and we have 50,000 deaths a year from automobile crashes.

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One bad drug being legal does not mean every bad drug should be legal.

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If someone does heroin at home, big deal. They'll lay around and go to sleep.
If someone drives drunk, they could injure/kill many.. Or beat their wife and kids.

It sounds like you've tried the drug, alcohol, and are just defending your own use, instead of the point, that its your body... Having laws never changed anything, and it only gives cops another reason to get you in the prison concentration camp slave system.

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I am not an alcoholic. I was mainly saying that the very same accidents that happen with Alcoholic beverages will happen with Heroin, Cocain, and Hallucinogens so by legalizing them there will be more car accidents and people dying. Frankly for you to say Heroin isn't bad makes you a fool in my eyes and frankly I have better things to do than to talk to some fool who wants those things legalized.

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