Bye, Tim74.


Tim has deleted his account because of the harassment he was getting from the sock account. The sad thing is that the sock account will probably get a new account and post here giving everyone else a hard time.

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As I have mentioned in a previous thread, just "Ignore" the idiots.

And if only the site had useful moderators.

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I nuked every one of the accounts that was attacking him, sometimes within a minute of them being created. What do you suggest should have been done differently? Or was it just the regularly scheduled time for your daily "MovieChat moderators suck" post?

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I THOUGHT IT WAS HANDLED VERY WELL...WHICH IS WHY ITS SUCH A BUMMER TIM FLED.

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Unfortunately, you were playing ‘whack-a-mole’.

I wish you all the best in identifying the original perpetrator.

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It is a longtime, deeply-burrowed troll who uses a wide variety of VPNs and has numerous sock accounts. His attacks on Tim exposed a few more accounts than he intended and I think losing those is what really set him off.

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Honestly, who'd be a Mod, eh?

The truth will out in the end.

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I am reminded of a line from Doctor Who, the Tomb of the Cybermen:

Victoria: "Who'd be a woman?"
Rocketman: "How would you know, honey?"

I don't know, it's probably not appropriate now.

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I was debating with these three around 9 days ago:

bigrogerebert
tinyrogerebert
Minirogerebert

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Sock 25. 26 and 27 of an account that was banned months ago for repeated rule violations. They weren't deleted because of whatever they wrote to you, they were deleted because they are not allowed to be here at all anymore.

In any case, not the same guy who went after Tim.

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Yes I know, I mentioned them because I was suspicious that they were sock accounts since they used the same name in the second half of the username.

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From Canada by any chance?

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Yeah, I reported that clown and put him on ignore. What an asshole.

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I see lots of issues here and as you get to cower behind your Mod alias, I don't even get to know who I am really speaking with.

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I am Moderator, fifth of my name.

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Useless like the rest of them.

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You could always volunteer.

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I could but I doubt I doubt I'd have a shot.

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You don’t know unless you try.

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I've been a Mod on forums before, even a co Admin on one site that I started with a friend. I know it's not easy but the Mods here don't enforce rules, look at the Trump page where people aren't supposed to post about politics!

If they can't even moderate something as clear as that then I doubt they would be able to moderate something more complex or serious.

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If this site upsets you so much, would it not make sense to find one that doesn’t?

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I'm not upset. In fact, I'm amused. The site will keep losing genuine members as the trolls increase in number.

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Yes, it’s a shame some nice people have been put off by the trolls.

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There's very few of them that I know of, from experience I know they can help, it's just picking the right Mod to help you with your problem, I was getting harassed by a sock account about a year ago, after a while I reported the issue and at first was told that a different Mod had looked over my report and didn’t see much of an issue with it, the Mod I was talking to however agreed to look into the posts again and noticed the harassment of more than one poster was coming from just one user and banned the sock accounts.

The first Mod was useless, the second Mod did her job like a pro.

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How would you even find a mod to contact them?

I get it's Mod 1,2,3 etc but they are too faceless and you never know who's online here.

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Mod1 and Mod2 have retired. Mod3 is on hiatus. Mod4, Mod5 and Mod6 I believe are active. I’m not sure if Mod7 onwards exist - I don’t get in trouble enough, lol.

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I'm Mod0. I gave rise to all other Mods. If you kill me, they'll all turn back into regular folks.

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I'd like to be named ModGoogolplex.

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Okay, but you can't spell Googleplex. You have to type out the actual number. Mod rules.

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That's a lot of zeroes!

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a google if i'm not mistaken. You better get started!

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10^(10^100)

There, all typed out.

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I am Mod10^(10^100) - hear me roar!

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No shortcuts! First Law of Moddery.

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https://youtu.be/LkCkCPfDmqQ

There, you can't get me on the first law, copper!

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Mod7 is Bond. Jim Bond. 😄

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Mod8 would be the Moder8or, lol.

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Mod8 is the Infinity Moderator XD

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lol! Nice.

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That sounds like it required inside information though. How would the average user know that Mod-6 are active and Mod 3 is on a break? How would you even find these Mods if you did need to contact a specific one?

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Not at all. If you hang around long enough you pick things up and hear stuff.

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I think you would have to have inside info. Or be a mod yourself or know one.

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I’m not mad enough to be a Mod, lol.

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Why do you care if a Mod is faceless? You want a name and a picture? Why? You are kind of tripping out here. Do you suspect that your Karaoke nemesis is bedeviling you as a Mod?

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Because the Mod might be the one you are having issues with!

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oh.
I never considered that a Mod would also have an active forum identity. Still, in what universe does it make sense for Mods to not be anonymous?

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This is the first forum I have been on where the Mods have aliases. Every other forum the Mods use their regular names and just have Mod or a Different font colour etc to identify themselves.

The forums themselves also tell who is online, especially the staff.

Here you really don't have any idea what is going on.

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I feel completely unaffected by my ignorance. I have never run afoul of the Mods. My occasional soft-trolling can easily be argued as compelling interaction.
If some Mod is a mild-mannered civilian of these boards then I hope they are entertained some times. A secret identity that has to sort shit by degree of aroma has to have some up side. Some kind of erstwhile vetting process for Mod'dome open to the public would result in zero mods.

I feel like I have typed 99% more than the weight of my interest in the exchange.
Peace, Artisan. I enjoy your posts.

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All good. As I mentioned in my response to Andy King though, the site will keep losing genuine members and the trolls will increase in number.

All due to poor moderation.

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Please, let's stay civil. Nobody is perfect, but moderators here are in general much better than mods in other forums.

I wish most sites in internet had this level of moderation.

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Just one quick visit to other movie sites, and it's clear how good we have it here.

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agreed. clearly this mod has expended a lot of effort scouring this clown out of the forum.

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100% this. The control levels seem just right here.

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Depends on the site. I have been on forums (non movie related) where it is far better than what is here.

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I think he deleted not long after he and I had yet another run in over on the ' RIP MrSock ' thread. Whether that was the "final straw" or not I don't know. I didn't follow the trouble he was having with his alleged sock stalker because as I said to him I had my doubts about the whole thing.


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I didn't follow the trouble he was having with his alleged sock stalker because I had my doubts about the whole thing.

It was not in doubt, he was been stalked, harassed, and threatened.

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Things are not necessarily what they seem to be on anonymous message boards.

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True, and sometimes it is exactly what it appears to be. In this case, it was not in doubt.

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nah, it was

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So you were not been harassed and stalked yourself?

https://moviechat.org/general/General-Discussion/5f14d8ae895ea547eeefb23e/How-do-I-report-stalking-and-harassment

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nah, i was

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In your opinion.

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I just read this now: https://moviechat.org/general/General-Discussion/5faa7bd697126a40e11d3f52/RIP-MrSock?reply=5fac736f2b786c0254f1f353

It was because of you.

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It could be interpreted that way but there were many things that didn't add up to me about tim74. He adopted the pose of a woke warrior always ready to jump down the throats of the unwoke oppressors and then escalating the dispute wildly with his inflammatory style when people dared to argue back. It was like he was looking for arguments he would then blow out of all proportion.

All of this mind from a supposed 46 year old male rather than an early twenties hysterical type which was how he came across when he was in hissy fit mode.



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I've only ever had an issue with maybe 5 people on this site. Tim was cool to me.

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Yes AndyKing said the same thing. My experience was quite different.

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BECAUSE YOURE OBTUSE AND ABRASIVE...I DONT MIND YOU AT ALL,BUT I CAN UNDERSTAND HOW OTHERS COULD BE LESS THAN THRILLED WITH THEIR INTERACTIONS WTH YOU.

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The pot calling the kettle black ! That is true about me at times but when tim74 lost his shit he made me look tame I can tell you.

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YEAH,HE LOST HIS SHIT...WHY DO YOU HAVE TO PILE ON AND FURTHER THE PROBLEM?...YOU SAW A GUY CIRCLING THE DRAIN AND YOU CHOSE TO PISS ON HIS FACE...REALLY UNCOOL,MAN.

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Well if you read what I said to him Kowalski you would know that I thought he was a fake persona and all of this "death threat" stuff was bullshit. And he didn't just lose his shit once he made an art form of doing it often.

And I didn't "piss on his face" we had an argument. Those two things are not remotely the same so why are you trying to inflame and escalate ?

In my opinion tim74 is probably still here operating several sock accounts. So excuse me if I don't shed any crocodile tears over his "self deletion".



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ITS ALL ABOUT YOU...SO JUST DO YOU.🤮

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No Kowalski it's all about you ignoring what I say when you don't like it which would make it all about you wouldn't it.

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NOT REALLY...YOU JUST TALK IN SELF RATIONALIZING CIRCLES.

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As opposed to your thought bubbles.



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In my opinion tim74 is probably still here operating several sock accounts. So excuse me if I don't shed any crocodile tears over his "self deletion".

More presumptions.
Provide all of us with evidence that it was bullshit and that he was/is operating several sock accounts.

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More of your presumptions being better than my presumptions. Provide me with evidence that he isn't operating several sock accounts. By the way who is " all of us " ?

And I'm still waiting for you to answer my question about who you are and how you know so much about tim74.



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Nice try on that deflection but I don't need to provide you with anything since you are the one making "opinions" and therefore presumptions. Innocent until proven guilty, now prove that he is guilty of your opinionated accusations. I'm not taking his side nor yours, however, you are the one full of opinions, accusations, and presumptions about him of which you have not provided us any evidence.

Why are you asking me who I'am? that is irrelevant and off-subject, you are deflecting from the topic of our discussion.

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So you don't need to provide me with anything but I need to answer all your questions when you won't answer mine. And when you won't answer my questions that go to the matter of your credibility I am the one who is deflecting. Good luck with that lightning-lad whoever's sock you are.


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I'm no one's sock, I asked you the question first.

According to you, he is guilty, so I simply request that you provide the evidence to confirm your accusations. Your deflective response asking me to "provide you with evidence that he isn't" is never a question in any legal courts since a person is always innocent until proven guilty which means it is up to you "the accuser" to provide us with evidence that he is guilty.

This is simple logic. Again, I'm not taking sides, however, you continue to accuse and presume based on your opinions without any evidence.

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Who is "us" and why are you talking as though you are a prosecuting barrister questioning a witness under oath ? I guess there might be some people who are impressed by your ridiculous posturing as though you occupy the moral high ground but I'm not one of them. Again whose sock are you ?



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Again, read my previous reply: "no one's", or did you not read it the first time I answered?....see here, a perfect example; you want me to be someone's sock in order to make you right about tim.

Since you are still deflecting from my question, it is apparent and obvious that you will not provide one with the evidence to backup your accusations because you have none, since that is all they were, presumptions based on your opinions which is exactly what you are attempting with me...good luck with that hunchback.

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Whatever lightning-lad. Time for you to change socks and carry on with your crap.

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I tried to be impartial but that is a little difficult when the only thing that others are seeing is: "socks over here", "socks over there", and "socks everywhere"... that's too many socks.

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You want to talk about a "pile on" when you jumped into my feud with yukkers, calling me a creep and suggesting you could handle me for him, which makes you an even phonier internet tough guy?

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IM TRYING TO LIKE YOU...BUT YOUR HABIT OF HOLDING A GRUDGE OVER JOKE POSTS OR MISCOMMUNICATION IS RIDICULOUS...I APOLOGIZED TOO,I MEANT IT...THIS PLACE IS SUPPOSED TO BE FUN...LETS JUST HAVE FUN ,PEOPLE.

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Calling someone a creep is not a joke post, nor is the physical intimidation that was also implied in that post, which your buddy claims is something only "dummies" do online.

It was a non-apology. I only apologize when I truly feel I have done something wrong. You knew you did when you asked me, "did I call you a mean name or something?" That's what's known as a tell.



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WELL...THATS THE LIMIT OF MY ATTEMPTS TO MAKE NICE...YOURE BEING PETTY...TOM PETTY.

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You got that right. " I stand my ground...I don't back down."

"I like you but I think you're a piece of shit." That's the phony, passive-aggressive message you're peddling, along with your buddy, as if it's so influential, and you know who I'm talking about.

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YIKES DUDE...I DONT THINK YOURE A PIECE OF SHIT...I DONT REALLY KNOW YOU...I WOULD LIKE TO LIKE YOU...HONESTLY...I LOVE THIS PLACE AND THE MORE COOL PEOPLE THE BETTER...I JOKE...CONSTANTLY...THATS ME...LAST TIME...IM SORRY...GENUINELY...NOW WERE EITHER COOL OR WE ARENT...THATS UP TO YOU.🍆

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I didn't claim you made that comment. It was an example, an illustration of someone else's style here, which you seem to be emulating.

If you're truly sorry, you'll explain to me what that weird , purple emoji is supposed to mean.

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Now that was funny !

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Really? How's that?

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Because I don’t know what it means either, and I was thinking the same thing.

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It's K's brand of humour.

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Ok, translate it.

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It’s untranslatable, lol.

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No, it's a very obvious, digital, Freudian slip, lol.

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With K, you just have to embrace the madness. Once you get him, he’s really fun, but I completely understand why people get rubbed up the wrong way.

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Yeah, I've seen him use that several times now and it's truly puzzling, especially when tacked on to a supposed apology.

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THE KIDS TEXT THE 🍆A LOT...IT MEANS A PENIS.

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Yeah, I know you're very much male genitalia oriented in your posts but what does it mean in this context?

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UM....FRIENDSHIP?🤔

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LOL

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The natural question, of course, is which way is it facing?

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NOT MY FACE!...MAYBE YOURS.😨

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In your example, either facing the E or the A is what I was thinking.

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I’m glad it’s a sign of friendship. 😀

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Just because things didn't add up to you, it does not mean that you should make presumptions and make it personal.

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I see, so you think your presumption was right and my presumption was wrong. Oh sorry that was making it personal wasn't it and I shouldn't have done that, my apologies.

Who are you by the way ? I haven't seen you around here before but you obviously know a lot about tim74 and what he has apparently been going through lately. Oh whoops there I go making things personal again. Sorry.



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This is a perfect example of you still making presumptions about him and making it personal aside from your first paragraph:

All of this mind from a supposed 46 year old male rather than an early twenties hysterical type which was how he came across when he was in hissy fit mode.

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Well lightning-lad tim74 said he was born in 1974 so that would make him 46 years old wouldn't it. And I stand by the rest of what I said.

And you didn't answer my question about who you are and how you know so much about tim74. Funny about that.


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In a debate, when somebody starts to insult you, you point out that he's insulting you and move on. Being insulted means that you won that debate.

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I read all of it as well, including the their first bout and the one from the stalking sock. That last one just made things worse.

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Be well Tim👍

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WHAT!?....WELL,FUCK...NO BUENO....I REALLY LIKED TIM...THIS SHIT SUCKS.

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It does.

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I liked him too.

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Seems like the flamers and the evil sock puppets are decimating our numbers these days.

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Yep, unfortunately.

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Hence why I keep blaming useless moderators.

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The last month or so it seems everyone is at each other's throats.

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It’s a terrible shame he has gone and I hope he returns. That’s the third regular poster in recent times to depart. I wonder who is the next target for the socks / aggressive types?

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No, it's the second time he departed after a sojourn here, Andy. Get it right. He was just weak.

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Oh c’mon, play nice now.

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He said this time he was being threatened.

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I'm aware of that. I've endured some really despicable stuff here and I still think he gave up too easily.

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This place has turned into the exact reason why the IMDb boards shut down.

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I just want to chat about films, music, trivia, tell a few jokes and generally have a nice time. Is that too much to ask?

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Yes, people like me lure you into threads only for it to be a pun.

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Yes, I think the current score is 98:2 in your favour, lol.

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I'm willing to let all of those type posters pour their energies into harassing me. I can take it. I just can't seem to get offended or bothered by what anonymous people on the internet say.

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This is a crazy thread!

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Welcome to the monkey house !

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Thanks... I think...

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When I went to bed, it was civil. When I woke up it was a civil war.

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This happens on a nightly basis for me. I’m almost too afraid to sleep now, lol.

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Tim74 is a trans identifying man.

So, just to get this straight: people are accepted, missed, and mourned for around here if they are:

a. A man
b. A man who claims to be a woman but is in every way shape and form, a man.

Sound about right?

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Well, you're a man who claims to be a woman. Let's see if anyone misses you, Harry.

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Harry?

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The aforementioned longtime, deeply-burrowed troll. And a very sick puppy.

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What is the point? I mean what's their endgame? We're meant to be here chatting about films, music, media, trivia and having a bit of fun. Causing a ruckus on an internet forum is hardly world domination - I just don't get it?

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Totally had me fooled then. I've had nothing but good exchanges with that poster.

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HarryHoudini?

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That's what I was wondering. He's been banned for a long time.

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BOOM!

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tim74 is not trans.

Catbookss is missed and is neither: -
a. A man
b. A man who claims to be a woman, but is in every way shape and form, a man.

sslssg is missed and is neither: -
a. A man
b. A man who claims to be a woman, but is in every way shape and form, a man.

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sslssg is gone? That is a bummer. She was level headed. Too bad.

Usually if someone blows the horn of "Attention everyone, I'm leaving" I think about what I have seen of their behavior and am reminded of the wise Yoda.

Luke: What's in there?
Yoda: Only what you take with you.

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I think sslssg is just taking a break from all the drama and will hopefully return soon.

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Everything about you ain't straight.

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I'd miss you if you left. Also, I've never heard Tim claim he was a woman.

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