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Is there really such a thing as “evil?”


I’ve struggled with this concept for a while, I can’t seem to wrap my head around it. I suppose it quickly becomes a philosophical debate but is there really such a thing? I feel like everything is done for a reason and almost all human actions have an underlying motivation that is usually selfish in nature. But the idea of some blind immorality driving all of someone’s behavior just doesn’t make sense.

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No. There is only void.

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Ted Bundy, Jeffrey Dahmer, Richard Ramirez, and priest diddling little boys....all evil.

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Mentally insane, not evil

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I guess it depends on how you define the word or concept.
You could say that any person who hurts another to a terrible degree (rapes/kills/mutilates etc') while understanding the consequences of their actions can be considered evil.
The reason it devolves into a philosophical debate is that it's a somewhat abstract concept. In giving a negative thing another layer of "bad", we then have to decide what constitutes as a negative thing. There's no escaping the debate, because at this point it's not only philosophy it's also semantics.

I don't particularly bother myself with questions of morality, so something bad being "extra bad" is also not in the top of my list of concerns, outside of maybe how much time behind bars the person gets.

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Bin Laden and his peers, Hitler and his Nazi High Regime, Idi Amin and his whole gang...I believe these sorts are evil and good riddance to them all


Who gasses little kids because they are Jewish or attaches a car battery to electrify a guy's private parts because he disagrees on politics?!?

Evil bastards, that's who

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Ouch. Not the private parts

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Idi Amin appears to have lacked any sense of humanity
They called him 'The Butcher Of Uganda' for many reasons...he was up to some really evil stuff

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But according to op evil doesn’t exist

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I think the OP is having one of his frequent existential crises...
His next post will be about toaster ovens for the very best garlic bread😬

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Ooh garlic bread

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Rosemary, crushed Garlic and Olive oil at 350 for 4 minutes

Your'e welcome😃

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In a toaster oven ?

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In a grown up oven you rookie!!!

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Good . I don’t have a toaster oven. Had one once and it caught on fire.... you’re shoes are dumb

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Oh, yeah?
My shoes are...arguably smarter than your shoes Mister!

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How dare you !

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That's right!
And I'll say it to your shoes' face!!

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I’ll put your shoes back in the box where they belong

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me and my shoes will put you in the weeds in Secaucus tough guy

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All because I didn’t share my sub with you

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You always order extra olives...you do this to spite me!!

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I order them on the side!!

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And what's with the cole slaw, are we invading Poland?!?

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What’s with ordering extra sub sauce ? Do you think I’m bill gates ? I’m not paying fir that

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Fine! I'll kick in a buck

Just remember who bought all that Egg Foo yung the other nitght you cheapskate

'I forgot my walllet ' my ass!

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I didn’t forget my wallet there was just nothing in it

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Oh you are just the worst!!

If you go to the sandwich shop tonight grab me a Philly cheese steak sub

I'll pay you back next week👍

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So just a plain loaf of bread then ?

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You're face is a plain loaf of bread!

That's right, I went there!!

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Your face is the weird bread with flax in it. Don’t pretend you know that that is

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my face is as lovely and smooth as a Bagel from a Kosher Deli and you know it!!

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What exactly makes hour face kosher

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'Hour face?'

I'm not sure that's English buddy

A light layering of cream cheese and capers on the face before bed keeps the wrinkles away👍

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That might really clog the pours. That’s probably wrong spelling . But so is your face

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Oh yeah... well, your face is totally wrong MATH!

Booyah!!!

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You’re right I’m bad at math and that hurt my feelings

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I apologize

May I buy you a rocket pop?

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No you may not

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Perhaps a creamsicle?

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You get an
Ice cream
Sandwich and that’s all

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That was my goal the whole time mwahahahaha!

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You wanted a loaf of bread, now it has ice cream in it

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Your clown shoe has a turkey sub in it! See how it fits on Monday wiseguy!!

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Have a nice weekend ... I hope it’s not nice !! Haha I burned you

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Well that was just unfair and against all established rules of combat Sir!

Verily, I will now smite thee!!!

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You don’t know how to smite

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My name is Indio Montoya, you killed my father...Prepare to die

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I’m not the 6 fingered man. I’m the man in black

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Then you will be the first to get a can of smiting!

En
Garde!!!

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I’m the dread pirate roberts

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Inconceivable !!!

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Anybody want a peanut ?

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Youz twoz need to get a room already.

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I think he's got the hots for me😳!

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Lol obviously I’m jealous.

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My milkshake brings all the boys to the yard.... unintentionally 😳

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🤣🤣🤣

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Toaster ovens are evil!

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They're like the John Wayne Gacy of kitchen appliances!!

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Yes.
Next question

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"Next question"

do you have any doubt?

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haha jinx

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Doubt that there is evil? None at all. I’ve seen plenty of evil. Next question is why are decency and goodness so rare?

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I meant "do you have any doubt?" that he'll ask another and another and another.

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My mistake. I don’t know him.

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Because honor has escaped most men and most is a slave to the dollar.

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It isn't rare. It's actually popular.
It just doesn't get any press.
Decency and goodness are quiet. Depravity and selfishness are loud.

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Thank you for that hopeful response. I hope you maintain your outlook and are always surrounded by decency and goodness.

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and there really is a new question coming.

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No, is my answer.

Evil, devil, Satan and all that stuff is a man made construct along with other religious deities to make us feel good about ourselves. Or bad, as the case may be.

Specifically, many people who follow religion like to believe they are good Christians and follow the teachings of their faith. But in my experience few people actually do, despite what they claim.

But when it comes to evil, its just a word. And more importantly, its a way of putting people who commit atrocities and heinous acts 'outside' of the human race. So they are considered inhuman, evil etc. And crucially...not like us. We would never do those things.

For me the more uncomfortable truth that a lot of people dont like to face is that such people are human. No use saying they are not. Its a fact.

In theory, it means that all of us are capable of commiting the worst atrocities. We are all made of the same stuff. Something somewhere makes some people do these things.

I would not kill a person under normal circumstances. But should someone decide to kill my family, i have no idea what I would be capable of.

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There is good and bad. There’s always 2 sides to everything. That is yin and yang. Evil is just bad in its worst form. I don’t know about a god or a devil. I’ve never seen either in all my years.

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I saw the devil once. He gave me a corter. Not such a bad guy.

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One time on acid I saw some figure all in black with a red face standing in the trees. He kept watching me and I remember freaking out. Then my boy busted out a six foot bong and all was good again.

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That figure was you. If somebody pushed you out of your little comfort zone you'd do things you can't imagine.

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I don’t get it.

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Acid blurs the line between your inner and external world, so don't think of that figure as something separate from you.

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Acid is nuts....nothing spiritual at all. Man made chemicals that make you hallucinate. Almost like smoking meth, it’s dirty asf. Shrooms and peyote is the way to go if you are searching for answers in the spirit world.

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I never ever had a single hallucination on acid.

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I was born in the mid 70s so I was too young to party with the hippies and experience real LSD. I think the acid in the 90s was tainted with garbage.

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I think so too. These days it's easier than ever to find clean stuff with test kits legally available online. Though, I hear it's much more expensive than back in the 60s.
I may be wrong, but I don't think there's any other drug with as many inferior substitutes being sold as the real thing.

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I think you’re right, maybe ecstasy comes close. I could never party like I use to though. I’m to old and actually care about my health now. Weed is pretty much all I need and the weed today is soooo much better.

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"He gave me a corter"

What's a "corter"?

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Is this like the updog joke? I was going to what it was but I hesitated.

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Why it’s 25 cents, doncha know?

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Did you spell it that way to be funny, or just mischievous?

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When I was young, there was this little hillbilly kid that used to call them corters. To this day, I still remember that sometimes when I think of the coin.

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Funny how little things like that stay in our memory. :)

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I think there is an objective adjective evil in which you can label actions of man. I don't believe a man is evil per se but what man does is either good or evil. In some cases you could speak about relative evil and relative good because sometimes what is good or does good to one group of people might be doing harm or evil to another. That is why in wars each side thinks the other is bad or evil and relatively speaking each side is correct.

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I don't believe evil is an entity unto itself but I believe people can be evil.

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But what is evil, anyway?
Is there reason to the rhyme?
Without evil there can be no good,
So it must be good to be evil sometimes...

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