Michigan protesters honk against coronavirus order
Workers blocked roads, demanding the state reopen after Governor Gretchen Whitmer extended stay-at-home restrictions.
There are 27,000 Covid-19 cases in Michigan, where more than 1,700 have died from the virus.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/video_and_audio/headlines/52304832/coronavirus-michigan-protesters-defy-stay-at-home-order
They blocked hospital workers trying to get to work, making them late for their shifts. They are ignoramuses and absolute scum of the earth. Heard the organizer, the Michigan Freedom Fund, has strong ties to the Betsy Devos family. That’s the way they like their manipulative masses, dumb or dead.
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Damn fools, Michigan is already a virus hotspot with an unusually high death rate!
And here they are, trying to make the hotspot hotter.
I'm not defending them for being so close together outdoors, because that is just plain stupid and if they blocked hospital entrances, that is inexcusable. But I think they were protesting some of the governors restrictions, like they aren't allowed to drive from their main house to a vacation home, outdoor workers can't do things like landscaping, people are restricted from buying things like paint, lawn care products by having stores prevent them from going into non essential areas and I heard something about being allowed to be out in a canoe, but not a motor boat.
share"...they aren't allowed to drive from their main house to a vacation home..."
Cry me a river. There are people who can't even afford one home, or who work two jobs to struggle to stay afloat.
That is totally irrelevant. The fact is a lot of people do have vacation homes in Michigan and as long as they are responsible I see no reason why they can't go to them. If you are questioning if they will be responsible or not, IMO that is a moot point as those who aren't are probably the same people who will not be careful at home either.
share"...like they aren't allowed to drive from their main house to a vacation home"
Okay, that's not unique to Michigan, in every disease hotspot the governments are trying to keep people from fleeing the cities and going to their second homes, or the houses of relatives, or anywhere they can find a roof over their heads out of the city. Some of the people leaving the cities will take the virus with them and spread it to other regions, and the disease will spread from there, and once the disease gets to less populated regions the community hospitals are small and very easy to overwhelm.
In my state, the mayors of the towns where people have vacation homes have begged people from the urban areas to stay away! Because if even a few of them are carrying the virus with them, they will get sick in a small town with few resources, and the local governments are afraid that outsiders from the urban areas will mean no hospital beds available for the locals when the crunch comes.
Seriously, what the HELL is going on in Michigan that the people don't understand any of this? The virus is raging there and everyone is at risk, and people are protesting over being able to go to the fucking Home Depot? Is there some sort of huge social divide between the cities and the rest of the state or something, so that people outside of the Detroit metro area don't think that Detroit's problems apply to them?
But it's my understanding, and correct me if I'm wrong, that people from out of state are allowed to travel to vacation homes in Michigan. A lot of the vacation homes are remote and I see no reason why someone can't drive to them as long as they self quarantine for 14 days. Personally, I would rather be at a lake house than in the city right now.
I just drove by Home Depot to mail a letter. They are only allowing a certain number of people in the store at one time, yet the grocery parking lots are full and I have yet to see a line outside to control the number of people entering. I wonder which one has a better chance of spreading something through contact with others?
The thing is, it's a natural human instinct to flee Plague areas, and to stop and panic-shop on your way out of town, and see any friends or relatives you have in those parts along the way, before staying in a rural area with few medical resources. But that's how the virus spreads from the city to the country, or from shopper to shopper or family member to family member, and overwhelms rural healthcare systems, and that's why the epidemiologists and the governmental officials who have the sense to listen to them just want everyone to STAY HOME and not flee. That's the message they're trying to get out, STAY HOME. Do not get the virus, do not share the virus, do not carry the virus from region to region.
As for people from other states, I bet the governor of Michigan would love to stop them! And so would the local authorities, like I said, the mayors of my local vacation-home towns are begging people to stay away, they want to save their medical resources for the locals. But so far, no governor has forbidden people from other states to cross their borders, and I don't know if it's legally possible to do so.
So... are you from Michigan or the region? If so, really, can you answer my question about their being some sort of social divide between Detroit and the rest of the state? It seems odd that so many citizens are acting like Detroit's epidemic problems aren't their problems, and it's certainly not true. Viruses don't care about social divides!
PS: Lots of stores all over the country are only allowing a certain number of people to enter, and are telling everyone in line to stand six feet apart. Nobody likes it, but nobody likes plagues, so what can you do.
No, I live in Ohio so we are close to what is happening in Michigan. As I said perviously I believe people can act responsibly by not stopping along the way from one place to another, but agree that not everyone will do that. What about those who have been totally isolated since this started and want to go to their lake houses? They present absolutely no threat to anyone if they move from one place to another.
Sorry, I can't address your question about Detroit.
I wasn't complaining about limiting the number of people in a store at one time - right now I think it is a good idea, but apparently the governor of Michigan doesn't agree because I'm hearing that people can't even go into stores to buy seeds to plan gardens.
Home Depot has always had online ordering and home delivery, if a person wants to spend their downtime doing home projects they can get supplies without going to the store and being coughed on, and touching the same things as other people. It just seems odd that people are focusing on these home-project stores of all the things that are closed, especially when delivery of supplies is totally available. WTF.
As far as going to the lake house... the really nasty thing about this virus is that it has a very long incubation period, and nobody's sure quite how long. It can definitely be up to two weeks, it might be longer than two weeks between the time actual infection and the time symptoms begin to show, or if people can be contagious without showing any symptoms. Nobody knows how contagious you are during a time period that may be five days or two weeks... or not. So nobody knows who's spreading the virus or for how long, and nobody can be sure that they're free of infection, or at no risk for being infected. So going to the lake house and staying there isn't guaranteed to be safe. You might spend two weeks there thinking you've aced it, and than on day 15, you start to have fever and a cough. Or maybe you have a fever and shortness of breath on day 8, and what do you do? Stay home and say "Oh, I can't take up a bed in the tiny local hospital, I don't live here", no! You go to the hospital and take up one of the ten or twenty beds, and by the time the infection spreads to the lake area, there's no hospital beds available for the people who live there.
So of course an individual human wants to go to the lake house and get out of a city that's turning into a zombie apocolypse, but the fact is, the science of epidemiology says STAY HOME.
Michigan's governor is the only one responsible for the protest. Are these folks exhibiting the height of stupidity for being so close? You damn skippy. But "the gov" decided this was the time to flex her muscles and trample on the constitutional rights of citizens and Very quickly found out that she's NOT stronger than her constituents.
She never was.
There is no question that she could have accomplished this without jeopardizing her career. Come election day she might want to do a little praying.
I don't think she has to worry about losing the next election. Most rational people support her decisions in trying to keep her state safe. My guess is the protesters just wanted a chance to show off their guns. They all appeared to be armed.
shareTHE COLOR OF CORONAVIRUS
(https://www.apmresearchlab.org/covid/deaths-by-race)
Man Suspected of Planning Attack on Missouri Hospital Is Killed, Officials Say
(https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/25/us/politics/coronavirus-fbi-shooting.html)
WHITE SUPREMACISTS REPORTEDLY DISCUSSED USING COVID-19 AS A WEAPON AGAINST MINORITIES
(https://thesource.com/2020/03/22/white-supremacists-reportedly-discussed-using-covid-19-as-a-weapon-against-minorities)
Thank you, that "Color of Coronavirus" was a very interesting article.
Although they have to note "where data is available", because it's not available in some places. In some states, well-meaning legislators have tried to strike a blow against racism by making it illegal to collect health data by race, and there are no numbers available.
This is what happens when legislators do anti-science crap, it always turns out that the science might have been useful after all! Like in finding out why African-Americans are dying in disproportionate numbers, in the upper Midwest.
Perhaps it because of idiots like this.
https://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/2020/04/04/man-who-narrated-we-dont-give-f-coronavirus-video-arrested/2948729001/
Morons
shareI agree with the protesters, but not the blocking of traffic. Also, even though it’s been proven basic masks doesn’t guarantee the spread of or the contract of the virus, the protesters should have worn masks. The Michigan governor and some other state governors have gone WAY overboard with their restrictions. The governor’s inane convoluted restrictions are the reason for the protests. Many governors and those in authority are behaving like little dictators! My hometown county in Florida threatened a $500 fine and/or jail time if masks weren’t worn. The penalties have since been rescinded, but the order remains in effect.
As per the Michigan governor:
“The restrictions imposed by this order do not apply to any of the following:
Places of public accommodation that offer food and beverage not for on-premises consumption, including grocery stores, markets, convenience stores, pharmacies, drug stores, and food pantries, other than those portions of the place of public accommodation subject to the requirements of section”
A person can shop in a grocery store, but cannot go into a paint store! As I wrote ...inane and convoluted!
Church service with members remaining in their vehicles and listening to the services through their radios are subject to arrest along with the oastors! Did I mention authorities acting like dictators?
I worked with someone who just died in Florida. Super nice guy.
Food is essential. A paint job isn't.
It makes more sense to watch the church service
The more people who refuse to socially isolate, the longer it'll take to return back to normal and the more people who will die including the possibility within your own family. Better safe than sorry. The economy will recover - not any of the lost lives. No excuse not to work together to beat this virus.