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How's that sex ed working out for everyone?


When I was a kid, sex ed in school was still a controversial issue, and people like my parents were ridiculed as being "old fashioned" for opting me out of class.

But the morons who made fun of so-called "prudish, old-fashioned parents" didn't get it. The problem with "sex ed" is that anyone can teach it, including unstable people with emotional and mental hangups or confusion about their own sexuality. This problem is why, decades down the line in spite of all this "sex ed", there are gender-non conforming gay or bi kids (aka tomboys, sissies, butch, etc.) being gaslit into thinking they're transgender, and there are straight kids--who can only have sex with people they bond with--being told that they're "demisexuals on the asexuality spectrum" and therefore quite possibly on the autism spectrum.

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Just for the sake of argument, I'm going to address this point:

"The problem with "sex ed" is that anyone can teach it, including unstable people with emotional and mental hangups or confusion about their own sexuality."

People who keep their kids out of sex ed class usually do because they want their kids to learn about sex from them, and not from the schools. And many parents are unstable people with emotional and mental hangups or confusion about their own sexuality, or worse. Batshit crazy or bone-evil people have children, too! A schoolteacher needs to be stable enough to get a teaching degree, get hired, and keep their job by following the official lesson plans, while any nutcase can get an egg and a sperm together.

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BOOM!...WELL PUT AND ON POINT.

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People who keep their kids out of sex ed class usually do because they want their kids to learn about sex from them, and not from the schools. And many parents are unstable people with emotional and mental hangups or confusion about their own sexuality, or worse.


If parents are so "unstable," how come back before the days of sex ed in school, we didn't have children and teens running around babbling that they're "pansexuals", "demisexuals", etc. "non-binary" or "gender neutral?" Oh, that's right. Because parents taught kids "the birds and the bees," and that talk amounted to, "Boys have pee-pees. Girls have woohas. And your private parts are changing and you're growing hair in funny places because you're reaching sexual maturation." There was no wriggle room for kids to decide that they could actually decide that having a penis or a vagina meant they could pick and choose what sex they wanted to be.

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You are conflating several separate issues, which I will address when I get home to my laptop and a proper keyboard.

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ARE YOU SERIOUSLY SAYING PARENTS ARE SOLID TRUSTWORTHY SMART PEOPLE AND TEACHERS ARE NOT...THATS JUST FOOLISH...JUST AS MANY SHITTY PARENTS AS GOOD.TEACHERS HOWEVER HAVE TO GO TO SCHOOL,PASS TESTS AND MAINTAIN A LEVEL OF RESPECTIBILITY AND TRUST TO HOLD THEIR JOBS...CHILDREN NEED SEX ED.OR YOU END UP IN THE 50S...FORCED MARRIAGES,GIRLS SENT TO "SCHOOL IN EUROPE",SHITTY ABORTIONS,ETC ETC ETC.

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SERIOUSLY...ALL YOU HAVE TO DO TO BE A PARENT IS FUCK....THEIR ARE WAY MORE SHITTY PARENTS THAN TEACHERS...

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WHATEVER YOU SAY CHIEF.

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Wow just when I thought I was crazy these guys decided to take it to another level. Is Atomic girl an actual girl because no offense but girls are usually more stable than this.

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Hey, the 50’s were great. The gals didn’t sleep around. Usually they stayed with the same guy...didn’t jump from pillar to post and if one got preggers they got married. They raised the kid themselves. It wasn’t dumped on Grandma & Grandpa.

Didn’t give bjs in the back of the class. Never heard the profanity you guys dish out. Guys were taught to respect us gals. Nowadays anything goes, but I can’t much blame the guys not respecting girls as they’re so willing to give out. Then they cry “RAPE!” I honestly have empathy for young men today. The women’s movement was both a blessing and a curse. Most of you only know of today’s time. I’ve lived both times and I would go back in a heartbeat, but of course I’m a white gal, so I wouldn’t wish those days on Blacks.

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I work with older folks, those of the Silent Generation or very early Baby Boomers. They share your sentiments. It's interesting how much of a cultural shift we've seen in the past ~30 years. It's much more jarring from, say, the Silent Generation to the Baby Boomer generation.

C'est la vie.

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It started during the Viet Nam War and the drug induced flower children of the ‘60’s. Woodstock, Assassinations, Women’s Movement, Abortion, Babies Born Out of Wedlock, etc.

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That's because they were all teenage parents and didn't know there was something different about them until they hit the midlife crisis.

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Okay, you're conflating a whole bunch of different issues here, which I shall address in turn.

The first is whether teachers or parents ought to be giving the sex ed, and I'm fine with the teachers. Yes, I've had crazy and evil teachers, everyone has, but I've also seen a hell of a lot of crazy or evil parents, and I'd say the proportion of bad parents is higher than that of bad teachers. Teachers have to go to a lot of trouble to become teachers and stay employed, whereas to become a parent, a heterosexual only has to get careless.

Teachers also have training in discussing difficult subjects rationally, and parents do not.

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Yes, I've had crazy and evil teachers, everyone has, but I've also seen a hell of a lot of crazy or evil parents, and I'd say the proportion of bad parents is higher than that of bad teachers.


I never said anyone was evil or crazy. You're clearly not talking about what I'm talking about. Clearly. I was talking about people who have emotional or mental issues involving sexuality (conflict/confusions about orientation, gender norms, etc.). Not "evil" or "crazy" anyone.

Is this why you kept saying that I was "conflating issues"? Because it's you who's actually the one conflating issues?

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Oh, I never said that teachers don't have emotional or mental issues, what you don't get is how many parents do as well!

All parents aren't like yours, all parents are like themselves.

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Then there's the question of what exactly sex education IS, and at least in my day, gender identity was not part of sex education, and sexual orientation was only a small part of the discussion.

The fact is, kids need someone to tell them what is a biological fact and what is not, what activities are legal and what are not, what will cause pregnancy and what will not, what will injure someone and what will not, what will transmit STDs and what will not, and whether internet porn has any relationship to real-life sex (obviously not). These things might as well be covered in a scientific, factual way, and I hope that's what's being covered on modern sex ed classes.

Now gender identity is a separate subject that doesn't really have anything to do with the biology of sex and is purely a sociological or psychological issue, not something that belongs in sex ed class. And as far as all these new sexual definitions such as "demisexual" go, IMHO that is something that should be glanced upon at best. Labeling your sexuality is something that might need to wait until you're actually used to sex.

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YOU NEED TO STOP BEING SO RATIONAL AND WELL SPOKEN.

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Yeah, well, someone has to expose the young to rationality!

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As far as gender identification goes, that seems to be something that the schools are being dragged into against their will. Navel-gazing about your gender identity is a fad, particularly on the campuses of liberal arts colleges, and it will fade soon enough.

There's a lot of silliness and fuzzy thinking involved in the whole thing, don't get me started, I'll just say that for most people gender identity is a non-issue, or would be if it weren't a fashionable issue. Most people have a mix of masculine and feminine qualities, as well as a physical sex, and would be better served by getting on being themselves and not worrying about definitions. And none of this has anything to do with sex education anyway, except for the goofballs who want to deny the existence of biological sex.

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Parent's didn't teach the "birds and the bees" instead they were role models. Role models came from psychology and it means that most things we learn we learn by watching others.

So, most kids had two parents who stayed together. If they were having problems the kids didn't know. They saw their parents doing there thing every day of their lives until someone died.

So, a kid like that hears about some weird sexual behavior and concludes it is not normal and not for me, because I come from my family. What is normal is two parents a man and a woman. That was their role model for life.

Now, many people have no parents that are responsible consistent role models. So, mom is dating this or that guy, he is here for a month then gone, and so forth. Dad is off somewhere doing whatever. So, the role model is, do whatever you want and nothing matters.

Parents have made life seem like it doesn't matter,

Now there are so many kids living this sociopathic lifestyle that families that are normal can't combat it. We are also conditioned by the media to not explain things. So, it's hard for a lot of people to explain what is wrong about weirdness.

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So you're saying the schools (and we all know how awesome US schools are) know better than the parents on how to raise their children.....

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In some cases, they do.

Not all, because it's impossible to generalize about parents. Like I said, all a heterosexual has to do to become a parent is to get careless.

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I agree. Generalizations about this are not appropriate.

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I never got any sex ed that I recall, but do you see me asking for a refund?

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I had no sex education at all either at school or home. I went through puberty without knowing what it was all about or of the existence of sex. I don't think it did me much harm in particular being ignorant. But who knows it might have been better to have known all about it first.

It's a difficult question. Should children be kept innocent of sex for as long as possible or should they know about it early ? I suppose now with the internet they are finding about it early whether it's good for them or not. So I guess we will see.



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The internet does rather highlight the necessity for sex ed.

You can have someone in a classroom discuss the clinical, social, and legal factors of sex in a factual and straightforward way, or you can let your kid learn about sex from internet porn.

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Perhaps they could do something bold and put "Christian values" porn onto the internet to counteract the low rent variety.

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Where do you think all the step-incest porn is coming from? That's Christian values, right there!

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Holy shit....that is an awesome reply.

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YEAH,NOW THAT YOU MENTION IT...THERE IS A TON OF STEP INCEST SHIT THESE DAYS...."NO!,YOURE MY BROTHER"....WHAT THE FUCK?

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I'm sure you remember the "Taboo" series from the 70s and 80s, right? Incest porn obviously sells.

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LATELY THAT STEP INCEST THING HAS TAKEN OVER THOUGH...ITS LIKE AN INVASION.

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An invasion of hot step-sisters and step-moms. The horror! LOL

Yeah it's everywhere.

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"Step brother...it's not like we're related by blood."
"Good point, let's do it!"

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LMAO...WE'VE NEVER WATCHED THOSE VIDEOS BEFORE.

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LOL Never ever!

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Funny comment but I don't think Jesus said "Thou shalt produce lots of step-incest porn" did he ?

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Oh please, as if today's Christians limit themselves to doing what Jesus said!

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Oh please, because some Christians commit murder doesn't mean that murder then qualifies as a Christian value.

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Yet somehow, their much talked-up Christian Values didn't prevent them from committing murder.

But FYI I'm willing to drop this thread hijack if you are.

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Well done lads, I'll let myself out

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LMAO...OH JESUS...NOW THATS AN IDEA!

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You can have someone in a classroom discuss the clinical, social, and legal factors of sex in a factual and straightforward way, or you can let your kid learn about sex from internet porn.


Or you can be like most parents and put blocks on internet content. Why create a false dilemma when there is none?

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We were taught about STDs and it was unforgettable!

I have worked in psych for 30 years and have read much of the history of psychology. Homosexuality, trans, etc all use to be considered mental illness for very logical reasons. Once I learned them, I can't find fault and clearly see them as mental illness.

A super tiny percentage of people are gay, trans, etc and I don't get why there's such a focus on them. There's something weird about it.

However, many people have fetishes which are distracting them from a lot of important things. A "fetish" means a useless obsession that exists to distract them from bonding with humans. That's something to learn about!

An example would be thinking a mate needs a certain body type, look, etc in order to be valid.

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My deepest sympathy to any gay or trans patients who fell under your "care".

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Actually, nearly all of the them told me why they turned out that way since there was no PC pressure from me to have them sugar coat their shit.

All accounts are consistent with old case studies of similar cases.

Very bizarre stuff.

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Even deeper sympathies to them.

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Damn right.

I had two trans people recently.

The first was a tiny black woman who wanted to be a man. She asked to talk to me about it. I was cool with that since I've been male since birth. I have also been large and muscular since 4th grade. I was shaving and looked like a man in 5th grade. People would try to serve me drinks, so I know what it's like to be a man.

As noted, I am very muscular, and due to movies, people are sometimes scared of me. I hate that because I would give you the shirt off my back. I do all kinds of things to help poor people, etc. So, I worked to cultivate a pleasant and loving personality.

So, I'm talking to this this woman about what it is to be a real man, which is a GENTLE MAN, and even the Chinese have a name for it which is Poet Warrior which is a balanced man who can be gentle and artistic yet kick ass. She eventually says she wants to be a thug who fucks bitches.

That means she's a totally perverted person who sees males as abusive people. She was in a locked program with normal people and was always trying to smuggle in drugs and fuck hetero females there. Freud noted about homosexuals that they may suffer from Identification With the Enemy. That's where you got abused and want to be an abuser. So, dad, etc abused you so you want to be a masculine lesbian, trans, etc.

That appeared to be the case here.

Also at the same time in the same program I had a male who had a lot of work done to appear female. If it wasn't for their skull structure I would have been fooled. Anyway, this person's main goal was to be a prostitute.

I have never met any of these people that didn't have a simplistic and stereotypical view of the opposite sex.

I had a homosexual male coworker and he was the type type that thought women and their genitals were "gross" and he would always try to get me to agree. He would bring it up. Meanwhile, I would jump in a vagina if I could, lol.

I have known many gay guys who have the childish notion.

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No, my sympathy for any gay or trans people who had to deal with you while they were vulnerable just gets deeper and deeper.

I do agree that a lot of young trans people would benefit from honest and non-PC conversations about sex and gender and their futures, but not with someone who calls them "a perverted person"!

And you clearly know shit nothing about homosexuality or what gay people face. If you actually go into a therapeutic relationship with people you are so dismissive towards, you're committing malpractice. Really.

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Where do you see no sympathy?

Wouldn't you have sympathy for people I just described?

I do.

You are a poor example of a human. If those people sat there and told you that, what would you say, "Go shoot people over drugs and fuck bitches because you're a real man" is that what you would say?

I noted this people was likely victimized by males and caused that reaction.

Are you fucking stupid?

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Seriously, don't ever take gay clients.

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This guy doesn't have "clients". He is a right-winged troll.

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I sincerely hope so. If he actually were a counselor, I'd have to hire a hacker to search out his personal information, and report him to his state regulatory board.

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You can't handle the truth.

I said nothing about my opinion.

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No shit, Otter. Poor people.

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THESE "BOOKS" YOU SPENT 30 YEARS READING....DID THEY HAVE A LOT OF PICTURES?

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No, not the type you read.

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THATS WHAT I THOUGHT..."NOT THE TYPE YOU READ".

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Wut?

Please come with more ammunition.

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I AM IN LAW ENFORCEMENT.HAVE BEEN FOR OVER 30 YEARS...I KNOW ALL ABOUT AMMUNITION AND WEAPONS.YOU SHOULD READ THE HISTORY OF AMMUNITION...ITS FASCINATING.

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I actually have and it is.

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You know the best way to study ammunition? Load a gun, look down the barrel, and pull the trigger.

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I need a demonstration.

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Well played.

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So even though the APA removed homosexuality from the list of mental illnesses 47 years ago, you still think that it is? What about lobotomies? They were the norm until about 60 years ago. Is mental illness in women just hysteria and can be treated with a dildo? Perhaps the we just need to work harder and pray the gay away?

I do feel sorry for your patients, especially after the comments you've made about the trans patients.

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There's no way that guy is a therapist.

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Very unlikely. He reads like a right-winged think tank piece and that's most likely where he is getting his ideas.

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I agree. His rhetoric is an obvious tell, another R_Kane.

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No shit. From what he has said here he shouldn't have a license to practice. Disturbing stuff.

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Who are to judge snowflake

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I HEARD YOU ARE 12 YEARS OLD...WHY ARE YOU HERE???

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Stop private messaging your dick pics. That’s pedophile material

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YEAH...THATS HOW IT WORKS.

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OMG, you’re a sick person to be following me around like this

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It wasn't 47 years ago, it was still in the DSM 3.

Also, you literally know NOTHING ABOUT THE TOPIC but believe you have an opinion about it.

The reason it was removed is because homosexuals, trannies, etc cannot be changed. Sexual anomalies, etc cannot be changed in most cases. I used to work with sex offenders in prison. That is a learned behavior, as is homosexuality, etc and it is WAY too deep to change. I used to do two years of theory with people, map out their belief system, and judge if they should get parole.

I let one guy out in two years.

Anyway, with homosexuals, there was an extremely high rate of suicide with them if they felt like they needed to change or were asked to. So, psychiatrists love to do "social engineering" and create placebo explanations for things. That's where the "born that way" thing comes from. You can tell that's a lie because no one is born knowing about sex, they must learn it.

That's why it was discontinued as a mental health diagnosis. All mental health diagnosis are unable to be proven. They aren't medical and so no tests. A mental problem is considered so if it interrupts social functioning. Since gays committed suicide a lot if diagnosed that was seen as far worse than being homosexual. In the past homosexuality was seen as negative due to not being able to have a family which was considered gold standard behavior in psych. You were considered autistic if you did not have family interest.

I feel sorry for you for being so arrogant, ignorant, and stupid. All of that is severely impacting your life and you don't even know it.

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There are people still like this. Can you believe that? I live in a conservative area and people like him would be shunned here. His is a dangerous and hurtful ideology.

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I am literally reporting the history of the topic in psychology.

Have you read it?

I am not a PEOPLE LIKE THIS but YOU are.

You know nothing about the topic, but smugly think that you do. That's idiot material.

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I don't believe a word from you. If you are a "professional" you are on the fringe of your profession. There are still about 1% of climate scientists that don't believe humans contribute to global warming. You, like that small minority, are most likely paid to write papers legitimizing positions rather than following a scientific methodology.

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Go read the history of the topic.

You won't because you're an idiot.

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I caught you. You know it.

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Gays are abhorrent? Gays are sick? They have an illness? Blacks are predisposed to be violent? Jews will always have the upper hand when it comes to money?

Are you fucking kidding me? Really?

If you had any idea of the gay, black, poor white trash, lol, that I know and love, you would not speak to me that way.

People are people. People are people.

There are good people and bad people.

Take a walk in your neighborhood. I like to cook, so I bring food.

Talk to people. Find out what they are dealing with.

I guarantee I would get along with you.

The only difference is that I LOVE handing plates of food to people. I don't judge them. They are hungry. They are humans. I protect them.


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Dude, you have like a childlike view of life.

There's cultures, subcultures, political groups, and these people will murder you, rape you, etc because they think it's good. In Afghanistan the US did NOTHING as muslims murdered everyone that lived on this mountain. They were a cult that believed Satan repented and now does good in the world like a Jesus. They murdered the men and raped the women and sold them into sex slavery.

A person with a girlish Pollyanna view of the world can't even conceive of that happening to your family or watching it. I can easily. You have no idea the kind of fucking predators I've been around.

I was in a deli years ago that was jewish. I used to go in all the time and order unusual foods and I think they thought I was one of them. This was a conversation, "Hey did you hear Steve's house burned down," and the owner said, "Good, that's what he gets for marrying an infidel" and I will never forget how shocking that was.

YOU need to get out and experience life.

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NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Lay back and enjoy life.

I have no idea what you have gone through. It sounds like you have been through a lot.

It also sounds like you are projecting anger on people that have nothing to do with your situation.

I have a Glock 17 and an 870 with 00 ready to kill.

Nobody wants to kill me. There is no threat. I'm standing here with my piece ready to blast. 17+1 and 5 shotgun blasts of 00.

I am ready for a movie NO SHIT.

Talk to me. I have some experience but I don't have your experience. No one does.

PM me. Or talk out in the open. Anger kills.

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A super tiny percentage of people are gay, trans, etc and I don't get why there's such a focus on them. There's something weird about it.

The "Illuminati" is behind it. It may be as simple as "divide and rule" or keeping people constantly distracted and confused so the "Illuminati" can proceed unhindered with whatever their grand plan is.

Nothing is as it seems.
Nothing happens by accident.
Everything is connected.

*Broadly speaking of course*


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I suspect Ancient Aliens are behind all of these shenanigans!

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I think it is my least favorite mideast cult that has a lot to do with the media.

They want to prove to themselves they are supreme but making large numbers of people okay with perversion.

There's a story in the Bible about Sodom and Gomorrah, a city filled with evil infidels doing all kinds of sexual things. The only people to escape the city were people following god's rules, then god destroyed it.

Religious cult people who believe they are better than others, are delusional, but if they have power, they will try to make their delusions real.

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Why not say it straight away instead of tip-toeing around it?

But I congratulate you on not mentioning your vast knowledge and experience in this post. What's the rate these days? Every third post now? Is it that you don't think anyone will buy what you're selling unless you lead with it? The logic can't stand on its own?

Why not explicitly state your job title, degree(s), and hatred of Jews?

Is Batman afraid or something?

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Do you love cults?

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No. See? That's an answer.

But maybe you missed my questions for some reason since you didn't answer in your reply.

Here they are again:

Why not say it straight away instead of tip-toeing around it?

Why not explicitly state your job title, degree(s), and hatred of Jews?

Is Batman afraid or something?

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Do you love cults?

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Ah, the parrot thing again. Still got nothin, huh?

Super smart! Super strong! Super dodgy!

You've really lived into this hero persona.

You won't take ownership of your views. And you're so proud of your background and education that you never ever get specific about them. But I know, I know -- it's been 30 years and you know it all and you've seen it all. It makes sense to allude to it (over and over and over and over again) but never to be explicit. Why be clear and straightforward, right?

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How dare you question those credentials he won't disclose! He a god-damned psychologist, damn it! You should understand this means he knows more about gay people than gay people know about themselves, apparently. He even has a female bisexual friend who totally agrees with him about how homosexual men have "bizarre behavior and stereotypical inauthentic personalities". This is logic and experience beyond question, because he's a psychologist, in case he or I forgot to mention that.

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Silverstone,

I'm an eight foot tall triple PhD with a giant dick and my shit literally smells like the finest Italian gelato.

Prove me wrong.

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That's slightly more believable than you being a mental health professional.

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You just have to trust him, right? Yeah, right. But don't worry about forgetting his vague CV. He'll make reference to it every third post or so. It really comes off as trying too hard to be taken seriously. It makes one wonder if he has that problem elsewhere in his life.

Based on little bits from him here and there, I'll take a stab and say he's actually a corrections officer.

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Do you love cults?

Answer.

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I already did.

Is your vision going or is this just an increasingly lame attempt at deflecting?

Sad. You're not much of an inspiration, Batman.

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I love The Cult - great band.

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Here comes the rain.

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😂

True that 👍

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Here’s one their best bits: -
https://youtu.be/ZCOSPtyZAPA
Thread officially hi jacked!

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I sold my love removal machine on eBay.

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You're a bigot Adlerian. Go away.

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It's nauseating that someone would think this way. I am hoping he isn't really a healthcare professional.

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Please describe in what way.

What efforts have you made to work with such people?

I have provided factual details.

You are just too cowardly to help or even hear such information. People like you are barely alive, do you know that?

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What makes him a bigot? Being gay doesn't make you special, it doesn't mean everyone has to fawn over you.

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If you don't speak the truth---you are lying.

Fawning over a person might be okay to save their feelings, but not a group.

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What makes him a bigot? Being gay doesn't make you special, it doesn't mean everyone has to fawn over you.


Who suggested it does?

As for what makes him a bigot, exactly the same thing that makes you one. Referring to homosexual people as perverted and suggesting that their existence is a fetish. If you would like specific examples, my first interaction with this person was a baker's dozen topic on gay actors playing straight characters and this was his contribution.

"I don't find males homosexuals to be respectable people or a good role model for an action hero.

What I don't like is their bizarre behavior and stereotypical inauthentic personalities.

I never liked Anderson Cooper because he would deliver "emotional" news stories which is a form of "editorializing " the news. That's unethical journalism but because people are idiots, they love it.

Then I found out he was gay, and got it. He has to make the news about him due to homosexual narcissism. Later, I saw a photo of his boyfriend, who was dressed like a leather biker Nazi, and that was it for me!

I don't know how Luke Evans carries himself off screen but the typical simpering weirdo femme into all kinds of weirdness sprang to mind and ruined Dracula, which I thought was a fun movie.

Typically, Hollywood suggests actors stay in the closet for that reason. Once you start picturing the gay stuff, it's over and of course women, no matter what they say, are more disgusted than dudes."

Bigot. PERIOD.

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Agreed. Homosexuality is a fetish and is a tiny percentage (3-4%) of the population who have a very loud voice and inordinate representation in performing arts and media.

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We are flooded with info about gays, trannies, and everything that affects them, but like you've said they are a tiny portion of life. It goes to show you how obsessed they are with the topic since the media focuses so much on that, and not regular people the media is presented to.

I noticed years ago that I knew, from school more about black people than my own heritage. I then started reading about my own. There's only 50 million black people in the US and like 300 million other types of people. The media, not black people, are obsessed with black people.

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I'm in my 40's back then sex ed was with parental consent only and it was really just telling us about condoms and reproduction. To be honest we learned little that we already knew. But it was factual.

Now it does seem to be about trying to corrupt kids. In Australia doctors have said that there has been a spike in kids presenting as trans gender since these lessons have taken place. I do not believe there could be that many genuinely trans gender kids around.

It's been hijacked by groups who want to push their own agendas.

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Yeah, that's what I mean. Once the door was opened for strangers to teach kids about sex (which invariably involves talking about gender and biology), it became easier for strangers to start subtly slipping in propaganda in the name of equality and inclusiveness.

By the way, the "spike" that's being noticed among doctors is what's being called a "social contagion." A social contagion is a phenomenon of people picking up the beliefs and attitudes of others after being exposed to them. A classic example is the anorexic who puts up a social media page and inspires readers into becoming one, too. The mainstream media and other circles are being very coy about reporting about this phenomenon when it comes to transgenderism, but the data exists out there that it's a contagion.

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I'm not so good with subtle. Are you implying that when they teach sex ed they are pushing Transgenders?

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No, what I'm saying is that once sex ed made it acceptable to take it out of the home and in the hands of so-called "experts", it opened the door for other "experts" in other circles to introduce distorted notions of sexuality and gender to young children.

For example, a few years ago, a teacher was suspended for teaching gender identity politics to 11 year olds: https://poststar.com/news/local/cambridge-teacher-suspended-over-transgender-handout/article_35224970-f660-529b-b386-64b86a7879e3.html. She passed out a pamphlet teaching them about things like "pansexualism," "polyamorous", etc. Why did she do that? Because teachers have already been carte blanche to teach sex ed, so why not teach them about all of these dubious made up sexualities as well (pansexualism, polyamorous, etc.) outside of sex ed?

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Just have to butt in right quick and clarify that polyamory isn't a sexuality, it's a lifestyle choice. It simply means you choose to be non-monogamous, with the consent of all involved.

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Education in general has been over run by the Left. We now have big businesses trying to be "Woke" because a lot of their staff were re-educated to believe that they are on some kind of crusade.

I agree with the social contagion thing too. "Slut Shaming" so in other words having sex with heaps of people is good but hang on... men like that, better shame men oh yeah I agree #metoo!

It's all designed to create as much division and distraction as possible. Meanwhile the West is flooded with people from very traditional cultures who will throw trans folks off roof tops as soon as they can.

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I'm kind of thinking I shouldn't have been so lazy skipping these very long tedious threads, cause some of these people are crazy.

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We got our sex Ed from biology books, that was purely scientific approach about what happens during puberty and sexual maturing. And we got it from our chatolic priest. No, it's not what you think, we had religious studies and the priest decided to tackle the subject of puberty and sexual maturing. I bet you never had your priest explain to you the process of erection and why it's important for the penis to enter vagina.

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I bet you never had your priest explain to you the process of erection and why it's important for the penis to enter vagina.


LOL, uh, no...

Funny you mention Catholic School because that's where I went, too. Except in our case, it would've been nuns, and only via those very lame film strips (remember those things, where they'd load a strip into a projector?). But I wouldn't know for sure, because my parents opted me out of sex ed.

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OT and sorry to butt in but hell yeah, I remember those old school projectors👍

I was a High School A/V Club nerd, good times:)

If I ever see one at a flea market with a few corny old school science or history reels I'd pay top dollar...Nostalgia LOL!

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What about those so-called "ditto" machines? All of our test papers were made from those.

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Remember sniffing the warm test papers when the teach passed them out...that weird candy like smell!

Kids today would never understand😃

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I was going to mention the smell of freshly printed ditto test papers, but I wasn't sure if I should say anything because then people would think I was weird, LOL.

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No need to worry, this is Moviechat...we're all a bit weird here😬

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No one teaches it better than John Cleese in Monty Python's "The Meaning of Life."

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