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The 80’s or the 2010’s?


In an earlier post we talked about which decade produced the worst films and 2 decades stood out:

The 1980’s and the 2010’s.

Let’s weight in now and say which decade is better and what films from that decade make it superior to the other.

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NEITHER OF THOSE IS CORRECT...THE WORST FILMS WERE MASS PRODUCED FROM 1990 TO 2010..THAT 20 YEAR PERIOD PRODUCED SOME QUALITY FILMS BUT A MUCH HIGHER LEVEL OF OFFENSIVE SHIT....TWO WORDS...CORKY ROMANO.

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Ok, but between these 2 decades how do you weigh in?

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THE 80S AND THE ERA WE ARE IN NOW ARE BOTH GOOD ERAS...NEITHER...YOU COLLECTED FALSE ANSWERS AND POSED A FLAWED QUESTION.

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I’m not saying either are bad. Users here on MovieChat tended to have those opinions.

Let me rephrase the question for you:

Which decade do you think produced better films, the 80’s or the 2010’s?

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RIGHT NOW...THE 80S...WE ARE STILL AT THE END OF THE 10'S THOUGH.EVALUATING THE DECADE WILL BE EASIER DOWN THE ROAD A BIT.

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I think the 2010's have a higher floor.

But the top movies of the 80's are probably better.

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The 80s had a shit load of great movies imo.

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AND THE BENEFIT OF 30 YEARS TIME PASSED.TIME TO APPRECIATE THE HITS AND FORGET THE MISSES.

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Some I really like are
Drugstore Cowboy, Glory, Blue Velvet, Angel Heart, Year of the Dragon, Talk Radio, The Untouchables, The Falcon and the Snowman, Platoon, Full Metal Jacket, Casualties of War, Hamburger Hill, The Hitcher, Beverly Hills Cop, They Live, Big Trouble In Little China, Batman, Leathal Weapon, Predator, Robocop, Blood Simple, Blow Out, Runaway Train, Cop, Something Wild, Mississippi Burning, Fort Apache The Bronx, The Color of Money, Videodrome, Witness, Rain Man, The Dead Zone, To Live and Die in LA, Highlander, The Package, The Holcroft Covenant

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The 2010s are better. Some of the best films of the 2010s:

Birdman or (The Unexpected Virtue of Ignorance) (2014)
Boyhood (2014)
First Reformed (2017)
The Hateful Eight (2015)
The Irishman (2019)
It's Such a Beautiful Day (2012)
Lady Bird (2017)
Moonlight (2016)
Mustang (2015)
Short Term 12 (2013)
Silence (2016)
The Tree of Life (2011)
Whiplash (2014)
You Were Never Really Here (2017)

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OK...NOW SOMEONE LIST A BUNCH OF GOOD BUT VAGUELY FORGETTABLE DRAMAS FROM THE 80S.

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Raiders of the Lost Ark (1981)
The Thing (1982)
Blade Runner (1982)
Come and See (1985)
The Shining (1980)
The Terminator (1984)
Platoon (1986)
Full Metal Jacket (1987)
Raging Bull (1980)
Scarface (1983)

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BETWEEN THOSE LISTS...80'S BY A MILE.

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I’m inclined to agree with you. :)

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You forgot Krush Groove!

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I could think of quite a long list of 80’s movies I love but I just touched on some of the popular ones that I like.

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I'm a child of the 80's so I think the 80's made better films. There were still lots of stinkers don't get me wrong but even the bad films were fun.

As opposed to now when the films they tell us are awesome suck and the bad films are just bad.

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IM ALSO AN 80S CHILD.I AGREE FOR THE MOST PART.I TRUELY BELIEVE IF WE WERE KIDS NOW,WE WOULD FEEL DEFFERENTLY ABOUT A LOT OF THE CURRENT FILMS.30 SOME ODD YEARS OF WATCHING AND LEARNING IS BOUND TO CREATE A BIT OF JADED DISCONNECT.

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80's child here too and I feel the same way. It's hard to sort out what's nostalgia, and perhaps the fact that movies make a stronger impression on a younger mind, but I do think there was more fun, magic, and humanity in 80's films.

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The 1980s were much, much better. Good blockbusters and comedy (not my favourite genre) that was actually somewhat funny.

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Note, my searches were restricted to English language films.
80's had 74,631 English movies. 2010's had 648,755 English movies.

The 80's has 12 movies in IMDB's top 100. The 2010's has 12 movies (imdb reports 13 but Parasite is Korean).
.016% of 80's movies made it into the IMDB top 100.
.0018% of 2010 movies made it into the IMDB top 100

The 80's has 7 movies in the IMDB's bottom 100, the 2010's has 19 movies.
.009% of 80's movies made it into the IMDB bottom 100.
.003% of 2010 movies made it into the IMDB bottom 100

80's movies won 120 Oscars. 2010 movies won 121 Oscars.

My personal pick, is that 80's had more better films. Some of the 2010+ films in the top 100 are probably going to drop out, like Spiderverse, Coco, Intouchables, Parasite; so 2010's will be left with around 6-8 films in the top 100 within a decade.

Note2. I also looked at 2000-2009 just to compare, it had more films in the top 100 (about 19) but far fewer Oscars (around 89).

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The 80's has 12 movies in IMDB's top 100. The 2010's has 12 movies (imdb reports 13 but Parasite is Korean)

You can't use than comparison. Last years the scores have been filled with fake votes to boost movies and series. Damn, every high budget series this year is above 8-9! Mandalorian or His Darks Materials, that are not bad but they are quite mediocre, are both above 8. The scores are faker than a tsunami in Bolivia.

According to that list, Avengers Endgame, Avengers Infinity War, Spiderman into the Spiderverse, Django Unchained or Coco are in the top 100 movies of all time. According to that list, Taxi Driver, Metropolis from Fritz Lang, The Apartment from Billy Wilder, The Seventh Seal from Bergman, The Thing from Carpenter or Blade Runner are not good enough to make that same top 100.

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Kinda covered that with: "...so 2010's will be left with around 6-8 films in the top 100 within a decade."
I also included Oscar wins but they just happened to be essentially identical. I think any metric will be skewed either by fake voting, manipulation, or political correctness. The advantage of IMDB is it has a metric ass ton of people using it and imdb uses algorithms to weight votes as a countermeasure to fake voting, they've been doing that for years. Also newer movies are going to rate higher because all voting systems are relatively recent, the population and number of users increases over time, and movie ratings go up or down over time. So the problem isn't just the metrics you choose to compare but also comparing metrics for old movies vs new movies is never going to be apples to apples. You could include box office but I think that's problematic because there are movies like The Thing that did poorly at first but is now considered a cult classic of horror. So the fairest objective comparison I could think of was imdb and it is just for fun. At least I tried to objectively answer the question. What metric do you suggest and do you disagree with my conclusion?

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Kinda covered that with: "...so 2010's will be left with around 6-8 films in the top 100 within a decade."

Fair enough.

I also included Oscar wins but they just happened to be essentially identical.

Yeap, but that doesn't give any info about general quality. You have 240 Oscars per decade, but you won't have 240 movies getting an Oscar, since many times one movie gets several different Oscars. The numbers of movies that got an Oscar just says how clustered were those awards.

The advantage of IMDB is it has a metric ass ton of people using it and imdb uses algorithms to weight votes as a countermeasure to fake voting, they've been doing that for years.

Yeap, but AI has advanced a lot last years. Right now you can use computers to write credible reviews with praises. They still look a bit smelly, but unless you're expecting them, you won't notice the difference.

For example, I used '2010's will be left with around 6-8 films in the top 100 within a decade' as prompt in https://talktotransformer.com and the AI did the rest:

"2010's will be left with around 6-8 films in the top 100 within a decade. It's very very unlikely that they'll get it all right in the next few decades.

I'm sure that whatever we do in the future will do better than it has in the past. Maybe there'll be some initial hope for a rejuvenated movie market. Or maybe it will be dead in 5 or 10 years and nothing will be the same as it was before. But we'll find out about all of this in about 20 years.

All that being said, I still think there's quite a bit of potential for a revitalized movie market. But most likely it won't be "the next big thing." In fact, if I had to guess, it probably won
".

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You didn't answer my 2 questions.

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Well.

do you disagree with my conclusion?

Yeap, I disagree, provided we are talking about the last decade. iMDB can be very useful to compare 80s with 60s or 40s, for example.

What metric do you suggest

One idea could be to use some site that it's big enough to be meaningful, but it's not usually flooded with fake boosting reviews from movie studios. Sites from non-English countries can be very useful.

For example, this is the top movies in filmaffinity, the iMDB equivalent in Spain. If you filter by US and non-series, you get the top US movies according to the site. In the top 120 you'll get, for example, 1 movie from 2010s, 4 movies from 2000s, 13 movies from 1990s, 7 movies from 1980s or 26 movies from 1940s. That's not exact, but I think it's a metric far better than iMDB.

https://bit.ly/2E2p3Nr

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So that website also supports my conclusion, good to have additional confirmation but apparently I was right and chose the best metric after all. Thanks.

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I agree, it doesn't support your conclusion. I was right and iMDB is not the best metric to compare the current decade with previous ones. You're welcome :-)

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What decade do you think I picked?

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The 2010’s produced by far the worst films

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I have to agree with this. I've only been to a cinema twice this decade...

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I was trying to think of the movies I’ve seen in the theater released in this decade also and I think these are it:

The Revenant (2015)
True Grit (2010)
The Hateful Eight (2015)
Django Unchained (2012)
Once Upon a Time in Hollywood (2019)



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I disagree. Most of those are from Tarantino, and in my opinion he has two works that deserve to be in a top movies of the decade list: Pulp Fiction and Kill Bill. Both from the 90s or 2000s. Last movies, while good, are not in that same league.

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I was only naming the movies I’ve gone to see in the theater in the last 10 years.

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