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Girls think the ugliest guys are good looking


Taste is only subjective to a point, there is scientific data to back this up. All across the animal kingdom there is consistency in attraction to symmetry and proportionate features. Yet I now see girls walking around with some seriously unfortunate looking men, and it’s more than just a trend.

Beyond their biological aesthetic which is generally mediocre at best they are unkempt and disheveled but I can’t justify it by believing their shitty attitude and general apathy towards everything is enough to be mistaken for confidence, I think the herd is just getting dumber by the day. I fear for our genetics and the world of tomorrow.

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Brother, you have GOT to find a woman who loves you.

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I don’t need shit, this is an objective observation I’d feel the same way if I was married w 10 kids.

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lol, you've been told Cruz.

To be fair moviefan, a lot of your observations do involve sweeping generalizations.

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What do you mean he’s been told? I am very careful before I make any kind of broad statement believe me, this is after years of regular observation and experience.

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Mate you say that like you are the only one who possesses the power of observation.

Surely with all your experience you are self-aware enough to know your posts almost always focus on the negative. I'm into my fifth decade on this rock, and my experience tells me you get back what you give. Since you're always posting with a negative slant, I figure that's the energy you're putting out there.

Maybe think about the things that make you happy sometimes?

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Maybe that’s because there’s way more negative than positive? Maybe you’re too optimistic and your indifference to the impact this negative has is more of a problem than my exhausting pessimism?

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The plane has crashed into the mountain.

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Read “I didn’t like the way this conversation was going for personal reasons so I chimed in hoping to extinguish it with a trite metaphor.”

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I love the way this is going, I was expressing hope about future posts by you.

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I couldn't agree more.

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That's for sure!

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If I have an indifference, it's to your attitude, not any imagined theory about girls thinking ugly guys are attractive. That's too amusingly ridiculous to treat indifferently.

Here's a tip. Girls like men. Men who don't play the victim and constantly whine about the things that annoy them. Maybe those ugly guys you see with hot girls have worked out how to play the game. Don't hate them because you're still learning.

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DAMN!

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Again - agreed.

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Thank you!

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I don't understand. He's made a statement saying that he doesn't like that the women in his area are, apparently, choosing men who are not him. All I said was that he needs a woman who wants HIM. And he goes off on me. I wasn't criticizing him, just saying that he needs a good woman. Perhaps it would change his view.
Hasn't he made other observations along this same line?
I don't get it.
He appears to be unhappy and quite angry.

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No you’re trying to turn this around on me, as if it’s a personal vendetta even though I’ve made no allusion to how this particular observation on women’s mating behavior effects me. Either you feel personally targeted by my observation or you’re just trying to get a leg up by kicking someone you perceive to be down. In any case your intentions are irrelevant and my point stands.

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The fact that you're worked up enough about the issue to vent to strangers on a movie message board suggests a not-insignificant level of personal investment.

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Of course I’m personally invested, I’m a straight single male. Doesn’t change my point nor suggest that any implicit bias detracts from its legitimacy.

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YES...YES IT DOES.

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I don't know what you're talking about. Kicking you while you're down? How am I personally targeted? Turn it around on you? What the Hell are you going on about? You made on observation? Fine. So did I. And I wasn't talking to you. Man, I don't have an issue with you. Go do your little observations. Maybe you should take a gander at the observations being made about you. I was wishing something good for you, it seems like you could use it. I'm not the only one, most folks here don't wish any ill on you, but friend you make it difficult. You appear unhappy and even angry. All it requires is an objective look at your posts and you'll be able to see for yourself how well that point can be made.
I don't have a problem with you. Don't invent something that doesn't exist.

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Or maybe a man, lol.

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It does make you wonder.

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Tut-tut, 'kicking a man whilst he's down', naughty Cruz, lol.

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Ever the opportunist 😉

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Maybe women are individuals who have sensibilities of what they find attractive in a man that differ from what you consider attractive? Why are you even concerned how other people live their lives?

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I’m not talking about sensibilities or subjective taste

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Then you aren't taking into account the full spectrum of criteria by which people choose partners. While there perhaps may be validity to your point of view, deliberately choosing to disregard some of the factors that go into people's romantic decisions presents a narrowly thickheaded approach to relationships, so I don't know what you expect to accomplish by doubling down on an incomplete worldview and refusing to consider other perspectives.

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Well said. Our friend seems to have difficulty using his proclaimed observation skills objectively on himself.

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Sometimes the toughest place to look is inward.

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I was with a woman once who would constantly make judgement calls about other women in real life and in films/TV. A lot of the time the women she would be criticizing I quite liked. Sometimes they were better looking than her, sometimes they weren't.

Here's the thing, whether she was better looking then them or not, my thoughts were more about whether they would be more pleasant to be around. Not to mention less negative about everything.

I will agree though that people are becoming dumber and more crude/basic.

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Girls are classically indiscriminate with their attacks on other women. I have absolutely no problem acknowledging when I am sufficiently outmatched or when another man is good looking.

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Yes, you seem to think about men's looks a LOT.

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Well, the point I was trying to make was looks are great and all but in the end chemistry is what matters and just being nice to spend time with.

That may well not apply when people are looking for a quick fling but relationship wise most people want more than just a pretty face/hot body.

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I get that, believe me. Looks don’t last and women are much more interested in an emotional connection, chemistry and confidence. But at the end of the day we’re still animals, and in our prime mating stage (16-45) I’m seeing some rather disturbing trends.

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Oh, believe me, we all here believe you.

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It happens with men too though. Some men are into say boobs or legs, a nice butt etc. As long as the woman has the attribute the man likes the rest of her physically speaking could be a wreck. He doesn't care because she has what he primarily likes.

Same as an Indian guy I work with. He has the hots for white women the white woman he is with is overweight and not attractive. He could get a better looking Indian woman. But for him white women are a trophy, something he can brag about. He doesn't care about the rest. That is a trend I see a lot of too.

So maybe these guys have something about them the woman likes or maybe the woman likes being the better looking one or the guy is just rich or charming etc. Attraction is a weird thing.

Or maybe these guys are actually good looking just not to you?

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Speaking strictly for myself, choosing a potential partner is a decision made based on Everything I know about her. What might be described as the whole package. Personality alone is incredibly important to me. She could be drop dead gorgeous but if she opens her mouth and reveals that a monster lives inside, I will walk away midsentence without a second thought. In my experience women are Much more discerning than men in this regard and someone who doesn't or can't rely on their appearance will generally have a stellar personality.

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AS THE DICEMAN SAYS....UGLY GIRLS ARE REAL NICE...NICE AND UGLY.

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Lol!

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It depends on the woman. Some have some very lousy taste. Others just settled because the right guy never spoke up. But the heart wants what the heart wants. Just be patient and don't waste your time on somebody who doesn't have any respect or common sense. That person will match up with a loser and they'll have plenty of their own problems. I am loathe to quote Garth Brooks but that song about unanswered prayers really does strike home with me.

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I know women who will date an ugly guy because he treats her well. But, they're not disheveled and they have great attitudes.
You appear to be talking about something different. Without more information, I can only guess. They may be the majority of what's available within a specific area and women are settling rather than being without anyone or they're attracted to that because of what they grew up around. Some women find clean cut too boring or can't relate to them.

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When I was younger I was attracted to the most scientifically symmetrical, proportionate featured men. I dated a few of them and got nothing but heartache.

The man I'm with now was not my 'type' when we first met. In fact I thought he was a little funny looking. We clicked personality wise though and the more time I spent with him the more attractive he became. I tell all the young women in my life not to waste time on someone who looks good if they don't make you feel good.

Your comments about shitty attitudes speaks more about you than it does of the people you are observing. You have bashed women and what you think women want on many posts here, I think more and more it's obvious why they aren't choosing you.

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They just don’t want to be approached by anyone

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I fall for a man's sense of humour. I couldn't give a damn if he looked like Chris Hemsworth. If he lacks a sense of humour, it's no deal

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But if he looks like Chris Hemsworth AND has a sense of humour - Jackpot! 🎰

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No denying that

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