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Terrorist attack in London


https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/live/2019/nov/29/london-bridge-incident-police-city

We will never cower in submission.
We will never be afraid.
We will stand tall and stand strong and we will defeat you.

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Power, sympathy and camaraderie my friend.
They are spineless cowards and will never win!

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For now, they're winning.

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Anyone who has to attack defenceless civilians ain't winning a damn thing.

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http://living-creatures.blogspot.com/2007/01/7-steps-to-islamization.html

The article is 10 years old. Back then, UK was entering the phase 3. Now it's entering the phase 4. The higher the percentage in the population of the country, the more advanced the phase.

3) Preparations for jihad: Beginning of geographic no-go areas for the police and public administration officials. Frequent physical attacks and even single infrequent murders of policemen or persons opposing political Islam. Death threats against adversaries are common. An increasing physical destruction of property by groups, influenced by the radical imams and the jihadists...... Property crimes of various types in order to finance the beginning of a domestic jihad movement.Current examples: France; beginning in England, Holland.

4) Start of jihad: Murders of individual policemen or active anti-Muslims with a certain frequency, which murders carry an evident political message. An organized countrywide Islamist movement appears, and some mosques start to retreat from liberal versions of Islam used as a deception during the initial stages ( 1-3). Establishment of definite no-go areas where militants put taxes on corporations and individuals. Extortion of individuals outside these areas.Current examples: Beginning in France.


Guess what happens at the end.

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Funny - they never try that shit where I live...
You can say whatever you want about rednecks (99% of those who do know absolutely nothing), but a terrorist on the attack here would get shot from about 5 directions.
So I guess they do appreciate their lives somewhat.

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“You can say whatever you want about rednecks (99% of those who do know absolutely nothing”

Oh, stop it with the insults! And I suppose you know all? If you live in the South you’re part of that “redneck” classification! On one hand you gives kudos...then insult the same ones! Get over yourself! 🙄

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As a matter of fact, I know EXACTLY what I'm talking about.
On the other hand, your little freak out session makes no sense at all.
Don't like it - TOO BAD. Maybe you should go have a good cry.

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I’m well versed in Redneck culture, so if there are any questions pleas direct them my way.

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Yeah me too. Literally born and raised. I realize what I wrote was a teeny bit complex, but she completely missed it and had herself a little hissy fit.

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Doesn’t it feel good to be a part of one the only groups in America that it’s still ok to make fun of?

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I enjoy laughing at the people who think that they're somehow superior to the folks who actually do stuff and make things. If it weren't for rednecks half the country would be naked and hungry and homeless.

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👍

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You can say whatever you want about rednecks (99% of those who do know absolutely nothing), but a terrorist on the attack here would get shot from about 5 directions.

Irrelevant. Unless next decades Europe, US is not gonna have significant problems with religious violence or terrorism. Since US is gonna become some kind of middle point between Mexico and Africa, the main problem there will be corruption, common crimes and eventually organized crime taking over entire zones.

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Whatever you say, c3po

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Whatever you say, c3po

So you finally started the name-calling. I see

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You have a problem with star wars?
Are you gonna cry now, snowflake?
I bet you have an issue with frozen precipitation too.lol

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You have a problem with star wars? Are you gonna cry now, snowflake?

And more name-calling and personal insults.

Whatever, it's not like you can expect anything else from a SJW.

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Ahh... should I shed a little tear for you? What's it like to be so weak it's necessary to play the victim at every opportunity?
It's a tough world, sweetheart. Grow up.

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should I shed a little tear for you? What it like to be so weak it's necessary to play the victim at every opportunity? It's a tough world, sweetheart.

And more name-calling and personal attacks.

As an interesting detail, I haven't even insulted him back, but he keeps piling up insults and name-calling. That's how some people react when they can't argue.

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Oh yeah? You called me SJW. What do call that, hypocrite?
And who the hell are you talking to?
And if you want to argue, piss off to politics.

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Oh yeah? You called me SJW. What do call that, hypocrite?

SJW is not an insult anymore. It's a very precise term that names the supporters of the new modern mainstream trending western left that focuses above all in gender and racial identity, and that includes 3rd and 4th wave feminism, diversitarianism, identity politics and features some neo-religious elements.

I wouldn't have any problem in using a different word, provided there was any. I have asked a couple of times and I got nothing. Words are needed to name concepts. You can't criticize 'Yahve' if you can't say 'Yahve' in first place. So, let's try again: what word should be used instead of 'SJW' to name that political/religious ideology?

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Here's an old school name that fits very well. Fits you too.
Busy body.

And I say it's name calling so it is.
Now screw off. I have better things to do. Anything.
Weakling.

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use the word I created.. "Trendy Justice Whoriors"

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I used 'diversitarian' in another thread, but then he (I don't remember the user) complained because I was making up the word.

Damn if you do, damn if you don't.

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Amen, Cruz! They're vicious, cowardly, clueless, 14th century barbarians!

😎

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When your holy book tells you to kill the unbelievers - there's a serious problem.

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Not even close.

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Amen to that.

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For a moment it reminded me of Piccadily mission in modern warfare

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Sickening, I’m so sorry to hear this mate.

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He was double tapped to the head, so justice was served.

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^^^^This! 👏🏻👏🏻

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The guy running away with the knife - he is a cop or just a member of the public?

https://nypost.com/2019/11/29/hero-tour-guide-describes-kicking-london-bridge-attacker-in-head/

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He was a very brave member of the public that assisted in disarming the terrorist.

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I thought of you immediately this morning. Do you live close or have your business close? People are getting definitely angry over these attacks on innocents. Thank God for those brave souls who went into action against another cowardly terrorist. Too bad you Brits aren’t permitted to carry. I understand knife attacks are sky rocketing in your neck of the woods. I’m waiting to hear the same mantra over knife control as used over gun control!

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If Brits were permitted to carry, this guy could have done way more damage

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Maybe, maybe not. The law hasn’t stopped the mass shootings. It appears the mass shootings are occurring in gun free zones. Maybe, just maybe folks would be able to curtail some of the incidents.

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Britain has sane gun laws otherwise the terrorist could've had an AK-15 with a much higher casualty count. Similar incident in France a few months ago with a disturbed man with a knife who killed one person. In both instances, the knife was taken by "folks".

Stronger gun laws have statistically shown to curtail gun violence.

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Wow.. you know about the AK15?

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LMAO!

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Like the higher casualty count in New Orleans by a gunman who shot 10 people. Thankfully, nobody died.

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I live outside of New Orleans and I don’t even have to look up the details. I would bet anything the perpetrators will be young, male and black and the weapon will be pistols.

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An assault or semi-assault weapon would've killed the victims. One gunman. 11 victims. 2 critical.

More New Orleans gun violence. 4 shot including an 8 year old. 2 dead.

The British are laughing at how your belief in nonexistent gun control laws keep you safe.

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My beliefs? I doubt the brits know my beliefs.

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Do you actually know anything about firearms?
Want to?

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I know the attack is nothing to laugh about but there was a man who helped subdue the terrorist with a 5ft narwhal horn ! We won't go down without a fight✊

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Hey sweetie, you'll be pleased to know that I was safe and sound in sleepy 'Sunny' Bournemouth, which is about 2.5 hours away by car or train. I'm normally in London about once a month on average (I was at a concert in the O2 only this Wednesday, which is about 6 miles from the incident).

I've walked across London Bridge many times and it's very popular with tourists, with the London Eye and Waterloo Station on one side and the Houses Of Parliament on the other.

Yes, I'm bloody angry.

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Happy to hear. For some reason that silly English song has been running in my head all day!😡 I wish England would permit folks to carry.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/London_Bridge_Is_Falling_Down#/media/File:LondonBridgeWalterCrane.jpg

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Anywhere Islam goes, murder and mayhem follow. They can't even get along with each other let alone anyone else.

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We also had a knife attack last night here in The Hague. Police and media are trying to downplay it, of course, just like earlier this year with the tram shooting.🙄

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They always try and down play all these events. I read about the Muslims who were pushing people onto train tracks in Germany as well a few months back.

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Who is we ... in regular English a pronoun is supposed to refer back to the last thing mentioned ... which is this case is terrorists. Are you shilling for the terrorists here?

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No

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I thought not.
What is it though with London and these knife attacks?

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Apologies for the confusion, I was a little emotional when I posted it, but just to confirm, I am definitely not a bloody jihadist. I fear that these types of low tech terrorist attacks are not going to disappear just yet.

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Huh? I had to read your reply several times to get the gist of what you wrote. I’m U.S. educated with an average grade of A or A+ in English. I had no problem understanding Andy’s OP. Come on now...shilling for the terrorists? Let’s not be so pedantic.

BTW, a headline in the Guardian:

The day after at London Bridge: 'We are still here, singing'. Is the London Bridge singing?

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Honestly, pay it no heed. My initial reaction was to take offence that I could possibly be aligned with the terrorists. Then I thought, perhaps what I said might be misinterpreted, so I acquiesced.

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And another way to distract from those with nuclear weapons, navies, marines, etc., that go all over the world starting wars built on lies. But yeah, focus on this little story. Ignore the stories when MILLIONS are killed.

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As someone who has lived and worked in London for 40 years, I can tell you that the whole jihad/no go areas stuff is bullshit.

The incident yesterday, whilst incredibly sad, is an isolated incident. There are no gangs of muslims roaming our streets with knives etc. People here just get on with their daily lives...and that's how you fight terrorism.

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I've traveled a lot in my lifetime, and yes, its all bullshit. It's another form of racism. And when a narrative is set, there's no defense for it. And people know (media, or commonfolk) what the right line is, and also what NOT to talk about. Bye bye, freedom of speech.

Despite President Carter (as well as the United Nations) calling israel an apartheid state, all that violence (where 99% of victims are innocent Palestinians who are occupied) is ignored.

The one bi-partisan thing to pass was to end the genocide in Yemen... Trump vetoed it. So much for him being a "peace" President.. I doubt people know about the genocide in Myanmar. It seems like the only kind you'll hear are from those who are allies. It took over 100 years to simply recognize the Armenian Genocide.

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Most of the present day conflicts worldwide involve Muslims.

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2010/sep/12/williams-the-endless-wars-of-islam/

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Wrong.

Millions were killed first in Iraq (and many other countries. So with your logic, Christians are the biggest killers. Now and during the Inquisition, Crusades, wars in Vietnam against the "godless atheists".

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“Wrong”

How do you take from the link I posted that “Christians are the biggest killers”?

The Crusades goal was to thwart Muslim expansion and to drive them out of the Holy Land.

“Crusades were a reaction to 500 years of Muslim aggression into dominantly Christian countries. The Crusades were in essence a defensive action against the spread of Islam by the sword.”

We had no business in Viet Nam. Not because of “godless atheists”, we have enough of those in this country. It was to battle the spread of communism...so *they* say. Thousands died and for what? Next chapter: millions murdered in Cambodia by Pol Pot and the Khmer Rouge, “The Killing Fields”.

Bosnia another place we had no business injecting ourselves into. We fought with the Muslims to go against the very people who allied with us during WW2! Again Muslim expansion into Christian nations.

BTW, “where 99% of victims are innocent Palestinians who are occupied”,
Innocent my foot! There is no nation of Palestine, therefore there are no actual Palestinians. Fictitious place with fictitious people. They are Arabs who want to wipe Israel off the map!

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You're full of cliches.

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Please explain how I’m full of cliches. By typing links to historical facts? I researched several sources before replying. I do my best to give links to objective sites. By no means did I wish to turn this into an argument with you. You see things one way...I understand the same events differently. In other words agree to disagree. I hope we can continue to discuss other subjects without insults.

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You're repeating propaganda. You can't know truth without knowing history and using critical thinking skills.

France wanted to reestablish colonial rule in Indochina after WW2 while the Vietnamese wanted independence. The Soviets and China were willing to help the Vietnamese fight for their independence. France was defeated and the U.S. stepped in seeing a communist threat.

BTW, the Vietnamese aren't atheists. Most can and do practice different religions.

Of course, Palestine exists. The "Balfour Declaration" in 1917 declared British support for a Jewish homeland within Palestine. In 1947, the UN General Assembly decided to give a large percentage of Palestine to Jewish people which started the conflict. Many Palestinians were forced off land where they lived for generations.

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"Bosnia another place we had no business injecting ourselves into. We fought with the Muslims to go against the very people who allied with us during WW2! Again Muslim expansion into Christian nations."

My family is from Bosnia and I can tell you that that country is not comparable to most other muslim nations in Asia and Africa.

For decades Bosnia was part of a secular, multi-ethnic state under communist rule and as a result it's still secular and very moderate. The civil war had very little to do with religion and more with achieving (economic) independence. Don't forget that the Christian Croatians also fought against the Serbs.

As for Israel and the Palestinians, I think there are a lot of bad guys in that conflict. But the Jews had no nation for thousands of years, so I don't think that's argument.

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You are correct. It was over independence. But, yet again the US stuck its nose where it had no business going. By doing so the US exacerbated the situation by riling the Serbs into a paramilitary faction. Result? Abhorrent ethnic cleansing!
The Croat-Bosniak (the term Bosniak replaced Muslim) peoples ended up with the majority land over the Serbs.

We did the same when we supported the Shah of Iran in ‘78

And we must not forget how we ended up with Castro. We supported the tyrant Batista.

From the New York Times 1994: “Backing the Wrong Tyrant”

“THE headaches and humiliations associated with recent United States involvements in crisis spots like Bosnia, Somalia and Haiti have led to a certain nostalgia for the apparent clarity and simplicity of the cold war. One aspect of the cold war that should occasion no nostalgia, however, is the regrettable history of Washington's relationships with "friendly tyrants" in the third world, particularly in Latin America. An early, emblematic instance of such a relationship was the cozy, doomed friendship between the United States and Fulgencio Batista, the strongman who seized power in Cuba in 1952 and ran the country for seven tawdry years before falling to Fidel Castro's revolutionary movement.”

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The Serbs do have their own republic within the Federation of Bosnia and Herzegovina, which makes up almost half of the country and I don't think there are any major issues when it comes to retaining their own cultural and religious identity.

I do agree one should be careful getting involved in international conflicts. The Dutch government sent a humanitarian mission to Bosnia with the best intentions. What was the result? They got blamed for the massacre at Sebrenica. Something similar happened with the West's involvement in Syria.

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Again the US involvement:

“When Bosnia and Herzegovina’s independence was recognized by the United States and the EC on April 7, Bosnian Serb paramilitary forces immediately began firing on Sarajevo, and the artillery bombardment of the city by Bosnian Serb units of the Yugoslav army began soon thereafter.”

Same goes for Afghanistan. The Russians couldn’t beat them so why does the US believe we can? Why are we still spilling our blood over there?

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FYI, apparently not an “isolated incident”. London has the worse in regards to knife attacks.

“Killings rise to highest in ten years and knife crime soars to seven year high as Britain’s crime epidemic continues”

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/6815984/uk-crime-statistics-stabbings-knife-murder-rates-increase-2018/

“Ten charts on the rise of knife crime in England and Wales”

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-42749089

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"The explanations for rising knife crime have ranged from police budget cuts, to gang violence and disputes between drug dealers.

Some have also cited the steep decline in the use by police of stop and search.

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Excellent reply. I live just outside Birmingham in a multi cultural community and everyone just gets on with their lives with respect for others. I don't know where these crazy stories come from.

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Seems to be lots of these "isolated incidents" when it comes to Muslim's. So sick of the apologists and excuse makers.

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Agreed.

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There were also the Muslims in the UK who abused under privileged mostly white teen girls for well over 10 years. The authorities knew but didn't act as they were worried about being called racist!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotherham_child_sexual_exploitation_scandal

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When 9/11 happened I was in Oklahoma City. The place where Timothy McVeigh blew up the government building. Where the child care center was wiped out.
I was on my way to a university north of the city. The student body was over 75% Muslim and middle eastern. They were terrified. It didn't help that I was mostly dressed in black.
My point, and I've said this before, is that if 99% of people are mainly good, 1% still want you dead. 1% of 7.5 BILLION!
It's Your Own responsibility to protect yourself and those you care for. Period.
Relying on others is folly.

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75 Muslim/Middle Eastern? So much for the diversity they keep crapping on about!

I agree, 1% bad is enough to cause a lot of problems. I also can't stand the weak cunts who say things like "Oh, well, it's not that often, these things happen".

Even once is too much but for some reason, some people think it is totally acceptable. Like the Muslim Mayor of London who actually said that terrorism is part of living in a city now!

I am sure for him it is a rather great thing.

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Diversity is a sham. Humans don't truly diversify. We tend to gravitate to "our own".
It's uncomfortable saying this, but the historical racism of the area I live in, that exists, in a way, to this very day, is somewhat comforting.
There was an odd sentence.
I mean to say, outsiders, even if Caucasian, are not readily accepted here. It took me over 10 years. And I had to force them, sort of. In any case, it instills a type of camaraderie.
Of course, if they were familiar with my past I'd lose a few "peers".

Y'know something that bothers me about alot of the people I talk to, even on this site, hell especially on this site, is how detached they are from reality. They seem to believe everything is an intellectual exercise. That, when things go sideways, everyone will follow the rules.
These will be the first to fall.

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I'm Caucasian however I can recall times when other Caucasians (ie Anglo Australians) have been racist/not accepted me because I was not the same race or culture as them. So skin colour as much as people like to carry on about it isn't the cause in the end.

It's like you say, people like to be around similar types to themselves. "Division" or "Diversity" is never a strength. You need something in common, something which bonds every one together.

Hence why now you have "Multiculturalism" instead of the former "Melting Pot" it creates Multi Cult creates division, even lets people set up their own societies that run parallel with the host culture. Great for Leftarded goals.

Totally agree. Some people love the Intellectualizing things which really aren't intellectual at all. Reminds me of when I started school and the teachers would say to people who were being bullied "Just ignore them, they will stop".

No, they don't. They get worse.

You know what stopped them? Fighting back.

Simple as that. It kills me that the problems are so obvious and yet nothing gets done about them.

Bit of irony here too. One of the men killed in this attack worked to rehabilitate prisoners. The terrorist was released early/given parole. It would seem that not only wasn't he rehabilitated, he was also still a major risk.

But it made some idiot Left winger happy to let him out.

Just keeps on happening.

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I said before that it doesn't happen here. I'm certain that the retaliation would be swift and brutal. I know exactly how I'll react.
A friend and I were watching Isis on tv cavorting and having a wonderful time. We joked that rednecks here would treat them like a herd of 8-point white tail deer galloping down main street, keeping tallies on who killed the most.
Knowing it to be true.

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America really is the last bastion of freedom as it is traditionally known. Australia, New Zealand, UK, Europe, Canada have all been infected by Socialism.

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No place is perfect and that's certainly true of the U.S.
But I think that here we can still, individually, attempt a personal kind of perfection.

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I couldn’t agree more! “Isolated incidents”, “Lone Wolf” doesn’t cut it anymore. To keep referring to these acts of terror as such...is nothing but hogwash! We are at war with these scumbags and will be for decades to come. The pos who did the stabbing was a terrorist and was recently released from prison.

As long as we continue to play pc football with these thugs and acquiesce for fear of being called a racist, we will never best them. That b**** congress gal, Ilhan Omar, should be kissing the ground she walks on. A refugee from Somalia who berates the US and Israel. What’s wrong with this picture?

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She's a terrorist in our own government. Destroying us from the inside.

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