Today's PC culture and the Right and Left.

Liberals support free speech. They aren't liberals. Your left is my right.

When it comes to our (US) government, Bernie Sanders comes closer to my beliefs and I don't support anyone else, but I'm tired of identity politics, and I'm flexible with a few things. I don't care if they do nothing about guns (and maybe get something in return, like more mental health accommodations), and I don't mind lowering immigration. I'd love Norwegian immigrants -- that's real diversity.

But this is part of my question. You've put all Liberals in the same box there. And yes, many do behave that way. But I regard what you have described as Liberal Extremism. As I said above, I am a Liberal yet I am against all this extreme PC culture and am for free speech.

I think the problem is that over the past couple of years Liberalism has moved further left to the point that it has become the opposite of the freedom it is supposed to represent. It has become another form of control. But that doesn't mean that every Liberal has moved with it. I haven't moved. I'm a Liberal but I have the same beliefs as before the rise of extreme PC culture. So perhaps we need a new term to refer to these new Liberal Extremists. Or a new term for people like myself. I'm not petty. I can take another name and let them keep the Liberal term.

But my question to you is- why did you put all Liberals in the same box. I'm not trying to criticize because many people do this. But it is related to my OP question and I am curious about this phenomena.

And I think both Liberal and Conservative seem to have become dirty words today. I respect your decision to be neither and think for yourself.

But when you say that "There are other people who are against racism as well, but they can't get on board with the concept of white privilege and criticism of white people constantly, that they decide to become conservative", why do you think this is?

Why do you think people think "I don't like all this Extreme PC talk therefore I will go and support the Free Market and Privatisation". The two notions are unrelated. And this is the unusual phenomena I'm interested in here.

Why don't they just say- "I don't like all this Extreme PC talk therefore I will speak up against it." Why the sudden Political affiliation change?

When I was a kid there were pub that held dwarf throwing contests and the bus that took the retards and spastics to school was blue. That coined the term "blue bus" to describe anyone who was stupid.

Oh and we still had one and two cent pieces and if you had lots of them you would throw them all in the air and yell "Jew jump" and everyone would scramble to pick them up.

When I was a kid, I would hear mothers tell their daughters to dress appropriately and respect yourself. Now if a woman dresses a certain way and someone makes a comment, it's "slut shaming".

Also when I was a kid, our parents told us not to do drugs. Nowadays if someone has a drug addiction, you can't judge because "it's a serious disease".

We have become too politically correct where people are now scared of saying something without being accused of some new phrase.

No one has taken your right to free speech, you can still say those things. What you want is public approval to say hateful things but you never had it, not 50 years ago, not today.

Did you know, it's now unacceptable do dress up as anything on Halloween?

Oh yeah, I can totally see the analogy. The difference is that in the 60s those changes were progressive. The changes the Woke Folk are making today are regressive. They are undoing everything that was achieved in the 60s. Making us all repressed once more.

It's the tribal instinct. How can there be a united "us" unless there is a rival "them" to unite against? This is the simple fact of which globalists are being wilfully blind. In this way human beings by nature are anti-globalist and when the chips are down people will regroup into us versus them and the carnage will begin all over again.

I think you're right.

I still don't think it answers my curiosities. Why are certain political ideas boxed together when they have nothing to do with one another.

But what you say is interesting all the same.

I didn't post in the politics forum because I was interested in responses from a range of different people rather than just political experts.

And I think PC culture is an issue of sociology, amongst other things. Not just political.