Anyone else find jadedness to be toxic/stressful?

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If I could I'd give this reply a Bells

First of all I never said I didn't acknowledge or failed to realize what drives people to said place.

My post is about the toxic-ness of people and I wasn't attacking anyone per se. I know hard times and bad situations and stress -- I've been through plenty of that myself.

My point was that -- despite the tough stuff -- I didn't adopt this crappy defeatist attitude and similar lines of thinking. I went through lots of stress and still somehow managed to get past it and continue with more positivity than destructive/carelessness, whereas others sometimes learn to be in a place of ill and stress. I wouldn't want to adapt myself to a bad environment -- I'd want to get out of and make a more suitable one.

What irks me is people who give up, but I don't always blame them like it is entirely their fault -- just that being around said dark viewpoints of everything just creates darkness for everyone. If one doesn't want to or has no desire to truly not be toxic and defeatist that is their problem -- but I realize the effects things can have on everyone from the bigger picture. Everyone has their own story you can say, but where they end up and how they end up has some degree of control on them, good or bad.

I don't want to judge anyone, but toxic negativity/etc. affects me and that is the point.

Lighten up, Francis! Everyone goes through stuff. I'VE been through some real rough stuff. I REFUSE to be a victim of circumstance. Being positive and upbeat, despite adversities keeps me happy.

I'M ASSUMING YOU'RE SENSITIVE.

Yeah I can relate to this. I had some silly chick on here make a bunch of assumptions about who I was based on a two sentence post I made. She was way off, but just that arrogance of someone thinking they know something about your life when they have nothing to base it on is really irritating.

Who you are on the outside is all anyone sees and is who you are.

Yeah, but I think jaded has a higher chance of being apathetic someday.

In other words one is like the beginning stage of evolving in to the other possibly.

It is like a dark tunnel that starts off with stress/anger and just gradually leads to blunting emotions more and eventually tuning out almost completely in some cases. I guess some people adapt to things like this because they don't find any other way to resolve or see through the emotional/mental issues and stress, which is why I like to keep my "mental doors" open more to avoid getting stuck in those circles/that mindset too much.

Growing up around stress made me habitually inclined to have to endure it (what can a kid do?). People can get used to pain and deal with it as it endlessly pummels them -- that doesn't make it a good thing though.

People can also cope with pains using drugs and etc. and never find solutions. What I don't like is how some people settle in and just accept their place; adopt bad attitudes/toxic behaviors and such; and just become broken people who seemingly give up on trying to do anything in life other than drugs/consumption. Being around that mentality harbors no change or growth in life.

It sticks to me because I've been around it so long and grew up around it -- but I always make effort to go past it/not let it suck me in too far.

There are cases of formerly very positive people claiming to feel dragged down/demotivated/depressed when being around certain people too long -- so I don't think if you feel affected by something of said nature that means you are of that nature inherently or such.

As to why it doesn't rub off on negative people? Because there is likely a correlation between being closed-minded more along that same mentality. I don't think apathetic/jaded/etc. people tend to be very open-minded or else why would some they feel their situation is fixed and nothing is worth anything? That doesn't sound very open-minded to me, but I accept I could be wrong/misunderstand some elements in the complexities here.

It is harder to influence negative/sullen than to influence positive/energetic.

I don't want to be negative and maybe no one does, but environment and stress and a whole host of other factors can lead to such attitudes and lifestyles. My concerns are more with what people choose to do and reach out for in any given situation or such -- not so much at blaming everyone specifically for their mindset like they are intrinsically "bad" for it or such (but that doesn't mean I enjoy it or think it is necessarily good).

“why don't you rub off on them?” Ummmm, you might want to rephrase that, lol.

Yes, but it's difficult when it's a close friend or close family.