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Movies and TV shows that have a major plot hole in them.

posted 5 years ago by keybored (2654)
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Here's two for starters.

Skyfall - takes his boss and hides from killer in a remote place surrounded by trees where any sniper can hide and pick them off.

Twin Peaks - in the last episode of season 2, Cooper is told by the dwarf in he red room that when he sees him again, i won't be him. Cooper leaves the room but then returns back to it, where the dwarf says "Wrong way". If he had heeded the dwarf's first warning, he would have not taken the advice of the second dwarf who told him "Wrong way" and, well you know the rest if you have seen it.

[–] tsrt (1091) 5 years ago

Any Friday the 13th film. Cops don't seem to exist.

[–] McQualude (4231) 5 years ago

F13 II had a cop as a main character, trying to keep everyone away from the old Crystal Lake Campground.

[–] moonie (3) 5 years ago

You sure you don't mean Part 6?

[–] McQualude (4231) 5 years ago

Positive. I guess we could quibble over whether he's a main character but he appears several times and eventually chases Jason through the woods back to Crystal Lake Camp.

[–] moonie (3) 5 years ago

Ah yes, the fat guy.

[–] McQualude (4231) 5 years ago

Not particularly. You might want to look him up to jog your memory.

[–] moonie (3) 5 years ago

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[–] moonie (3) 5 years ago

The Friday the 13th series is filled with plot holes, but that isn't one of them!

The teens are typically out in a wooded area or isolated setting away from civilization. They are usually killed off one by one, so there's no chance to call the police while you're in the middle of your murder - and this was before cell phones. When characters start suspecting their missing friends, the landline has been cut.

The cops are there at the end of Friday the 13th Part 3, on the scene after Jason has been "killed." And the opening scene of Friday the 13th Part 3.

A Sherif is the main character in Part 6.

Jason is shot "dead" by the FBI in Part 9.

[–] tsrt (1091) 5 years ago

People start disappearing one by one and no one calls the cops? That's how it often was...IIRC.

[–] McQualude (4231) 5 years ago

The Core, the whole movie was a plot hole about going down a plot hole.

[–] nyctc7 (41240) 5 years ago

This is more of a contrivance than a plot hole, but its always bothered me. I know that Dr. Strangelove is a satire, not a slice of reality. But it is inconceivable that one lunatic general would be able to authorize a nuclear strike. Just not possible. They gloss over it in the movie, I think George C. Scott saying something like "He certainly overstepped his authority" and "we're looking into it."

[–] mcqueen (1150) 5 years ago

INTERSTELLAR: It is impossible to fly into a wormhole or and / or a black hole.

[–] slimone (7996) 5 years ago

The Sopranos. . ..There is much discussion about what happened to Tony Soprano at the end of the series.

What do you think happened?

[–] AngularTurnip (3333) 5 years ago

How did Batman get back into Gotham in The Dark Knight Rises?

[–] keybored (2654) 5 years ago

That's an ambiguous ending, not a plot hole.

[–] db20db (16208) 5 years ago

Not a plot hole but something I saw as very anachronistic and puzzling in a film just a few hours ago.

The movie was Zero Dark Thirty. There's a scene near the end, supposedly occurring in 2011. The Director of the CIA (played by James Gandolfini) surprises the protagonist ( Jessica Chastain as Maya) in a cafeteria within the agency while she's having lunch. They have a brief one-on-one there. During the last few seconds of the conversation, the camera focuses on what appears to be a vintage, glass, empty Coca-Cola bottle prominently displayed between them on the table, as if it had been a part of her lunch. I thought, "Is that what I think it is, a 50s style Coke bottle in the cafeteria of the 21st century CIA ?" Then I wondered if it was a serious error with the props department or a prank. I've been trying to track it down but as you can imagine, with no luck. It became surreal, almost like a UFO sighting...I know I saw that but was it what it looked like?

[–] nyctc7 (41240) 5 years ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ElmOElVKpzg

It's not empty, and if you look at the back of the bottle (facing Gandolfini) you can just make out the logo of the Olympics (the 5 interlocking rings). Coke does make commemorative glass bottles for the Olympics. But what such a bottle would be doing there, I have no idea. (See at 0:07 - 0:11)

[–] db20db (16208) 5 years ago

Thanks for affirming my sanity ! And I could see from that clip that the Coke bottle was obvious from the very beginning. In the movie, I spotted it as I said, in the final seconds of the scene because I was focused on the dialogue between the two characters. Its purpose is still a mystery.

[–] nyctc7 (41240) 5 years ago

I wish I could claim I detected it without a hint. On the film's IMDb "Goofs" it is listed under "Anachronisms" but offers no possible explanations.

[–] db20db (16208) 5 years ago

I appreciate that honesty. Your response validated me in spotting a bonafide goof in a movie, not that I haven't done it many times before.

[–] sslssg (27744) 5 years ago

I don't think that anything mentioned so far are actually plot holes.

Plot holes have to go against the logic of the plot, not the logic of the real world. So just because things are implausible in reality, it doesn't make them plot holes.

[–] nyctc7 (41240) 5 years ago

I found this on https://movieplotholes.com/

Minor Plot hole
Contradiction created in the script that negatively affects the logic of individuals scenes.
A screenwriter may create minor plot holes for different reasons.
(a) Saving the heroes — The heroes are cornered and the only way to save them is to manipulate the fictional universe so that they can be saved.
(b) Create something cool — logic of scenes can be put aside if it can transform it into something cool or cooler.
(c) Bad writing — Either from bad writers or tight schedules that leave not enough time to develop and perfect the screenplay.

Major Plot hole
Contradiction created in the script that negatively affects the logic of main characters.
These problems arise for different reasons.
(a) Induced stupidity — A main character that is exposed as being witty and clever becomes unbearably stupid in order to manipulate the story.
(b) Induced omniscience — A main character that is exposed as being witty and clever becomes god-like omniscient and can predict all events.

Super Plot hole
Contradiction created in the script that negatively affects the logic of the entire story and conflicts.
These problems arise for different reasons.
(a) Induced stupidity of the main villain — Can negate the initial conflict and the heroes quest to stop him/her.
(b) heavyweight plot device — A concept/object is introduced in the film that completely transforms how the story should have played out.
(c) Conflict Destruction — A contradiction appears that logically destroys the conflict and the overall story.

[–] nyctc7 (41240) 5 years ago

Plot contrivance
Contrivance in the script that does not go against the logic of a story/character but instead goes against all odds of it occurring.
(a) Contrived Coincidence — Characters will make bad/good moves against all odds of their respective attributes in order to get the story moving.
(b) Contrived Event — There could be 1 chance in a billion for two characters to meet, but they will.

Retroactive Continuity
Retcons are script inconsistencies that exist in-between movies of the same franchise. They are thus very similar to plot holes but can only exist in movie series. They are however usually used purposefully to:
(a) accommodate sequels and prequels
(b) resolve chronological issues
(c) correct past plot holes from earlier films in the series.

Unaddressed Issue
Information left out of the script that would have been useful to understand the story better.
Since information is left out, it is impossible to categorize the problem as a plot hole since the script did not address the issue BUT there is reasonable doubt to think that the movie’s fictional universe could not answer it appropriately. Sometimes, important plot points are kept vague in order to conceal inevitable plot holes. Unaddressed Issues create general vagueness in the script and overall lazy writing.

[–] [deleted] 5 years ago

so anything goes then?
They would say that , as they're trying to fill a whole website .
I'd say only their super-plot hole counts

[–] captainbucky (15252) 5 years ago

Ace Ventura

[–] [deleted] 5 years ago