What say those posters who told me Islamophobia wasn't a real thing?
Do you idiots need anymore evidence?
shareI'm in complete agreement with Sam Harris on this topic:
Needless to say, there are people who hate Arabs, Somalis, and other immigrants from predominantly Muslim societies for racist reasons. But if you can’t distinguish that sort of blind bigotry from a hatred and concern for dangerous, divisive, and irrational ideas—like a belief in martyrdom, or a notion of male “honor” that entails the virtual enslavement of women and girls—you are doing real harm to our public conversation. Everything I have ever said about Islam refers to the content and consequences of its doctrine. And, again, I have always emphasized that its primary victims are innocent Muslims—especially women and girls. There is no such thing as “Islamophobia.” This is a term of propaganda designed to protect Islam from the forces of secularism by conflating all criticism of it with racism and xenophobia. And it is doing its job, because people like you have been taken in by it.share
Sam Harris is a bigoted moron.
Today 48 innocent people lost their lives to terrorism simply for being Muslim.
Yeah, and some 3,000 innocent people lost their lives on 9/11 simply for being considered “infidels” by Muslims.
In Nov., 2015, 129 innocent people lost their lives for simply being “infidels”.
In July, 2016 84 innocent people lost their lives when a damn terrorist uses a truck to plow through the victims.
“The endless wars of Islam”
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2010/sep/12/williams-the-endless-wars-of-islam/
And...the beheadings! One name comes to mind Daniel Pearl
95% of Violent Conflicts Around The World are Muslim. We’ve been fighting this ideology since the Crusades. Forgive me if I don’t get choked up over this latest horrific slaughter, but the murderers should be given the death penalty.
All these atrocities are evil, but do bear in mind that on 9/11 some of those victims will have been Muslims. Those terrorist acts did not discriminate.
However today's terrorist attack specifically targeted Muslims inside mosques, presumably at pray. It was akin to the far-right attack at a synagogue last October.
I know one thing for certain...we don’t need that vacuous Muslim woman from Minnesota in the US Congress spewing her hatred and bigotry towards Israel. If she was a Republican she would have been gone in a heartbeat! Pelosi hasn’t reined her in or that idiotic AOC because the onus & cameras are kept off her.
shareFunny how some of the people who feel the strongest about Israel show the least qualms when it comes to attacking and demonising Jews, like George Soros.
Israel is a state, like the US, like the UK, like France, and like Germany. We are thus permitted to criticise its government and its politics the same way we'd criticise any other national state's government and politics.
If criticism of Israel shouldn't be equated with anti-Semitism, than neither shouldn't criticism of Soros. I despise Soros, but that has nothing to do with him being a Jew. In fact, it seems to me that he is the one who dislikes Jews.
shareI don't agree with your final line about Soros disliking Jews, but your initial argument is sound.
It is possible to criticise Soros without being an anti-Semite (and for what it's worth, whilst I do share a lot of Soros' political views, I don't think it's healthy for any multi-millionaire to have so much political influence, irrespective of what side of the political spectrum they sit on). Unfortunately, the truth is that so much of the dog-whistle attacks on Soros have evoked clear anti-Semitic tropes about global Jewish networks and the like.
The people flying the planes into the buildings were not "victims".
share“It was akin to the far-right attack at a synagogue last October.”
Where was gnashing of teeth and the covering of oneself with a sackcloth of ashes when this occurred? Oh, I get it now...it was yesterday’s news. After all they were just Jews...not Muslims.
“Anti-Semitic incidents surged nearly 60% in 2017” as per CNN.
https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/28/us/antisemitic-incidents-2017-adl-report-trnd/index.html
From another article:
“The anti-Semitic threat was also real from far-left and Islamist groups, he said, with a warning: if things did not change, we would all pay a heavy price.”
“It was akin to the far-right attack at a synagogue last October.”What are you talking about?
Where was gnashing of teeth and the covering of oneself with a sackcloth of ashes when this occurred? Oh, I get it now...it was yesterday’s news. After all they were just Jews...not Muslims.
At the time, I, and I'm sure many others, were quite rightly talking about anti-Semitism. And of course, we should, and mostly are, still talking about it. But thankfully most people, even on the political right, acknowledge that anti-Semitism is an actual, albeit extremely unfortunate, thing.
By contrast, not many people seem to believe that prejudice towards Muslims is an actual thing, despite multiple evidence to the contrary. Yesterday's horrific attack should really put any doubts to rest. Anti-Muslim prejudice exists. share
“By contrast, not many people seem to believe that prejudice towards Muslims is an actual thing, despite multiple evidence to the contrary.”
I’m not surprised one iota. They have brought it on themselves by the very nature of their beliefs, their laws, etc. The newly elected Muslim congresswoman from Minnesota represents the vast majority who believe as she does. Her hatred of Israel for one thing. She has a track record. This woman is a refugee from Somalia, so she should be kissing the ground she walks on in gratitude! Instead she shows sympathy for Isis terrorists. Her true colors are emmanating.
There are enclaves across Western countries where local law enforcement won’t enter. These people live by Islamic law. When Merkel of Germany permitted over a million to immigrate into the country Germany’s culture was changed forever. German women were being accosted at an alarming rates.
We as Westerners are fearful in speaking out against their beliefs and laws, such as Sharia Law, due to being accused of hate speech.
I'm sure you understand the circumstances are different for a muslim terrorist committing his crime in a Western country and a white supremacist committing his crime in a Western country. The last guy has to go out and find some specific victims to exercise his wrath. It doesn't mean the first is any less discriminate, he's still targeting a specific group.
shareBut the first is attacking a multitude of different people, some of whom will be Muslims, or at least may potentially be Muslims.
When terrorists attacked the Twin Towers on 9/11/2001, and then the London Underground on 7/7/2005, some of their victims were in fact Muslims. The attack wasn't so much an attack on Christians, or white people, or even Americans and Brits, as it was on Western secular values, which many Muslims in the West actually adhere too. And we all rightly condemn those attacks and the twisted ideology that underpins it.
They're merely collateral damage. If you want to attack a large group of people in the West, chances are you'll hit one of your own. If you hit one of your own that supports Western values, then you're lucky.
Had this guy lived in the Middle East, he would've just gone onto the street and do his thing, with the chance of killing Westerners. Instead he did the same as those muslim terrorists attacking Western tourists on the beach in Egypt and Tunesia.
There really is no difference with 9/11. Those terrorists had specific targets, the Christian, immoral infidels of the West. This message gets repeated by islamists time and time again. I simply can not agree those attacks were not discriminatory.
Not “Western secular values,“....just Western values. You seem to have an allegiance to Muslim values over Western values. Oh, you do show empathy to other victims, but there is always that “but” there. They are spreading across Europe changing cultures while having the “hands off me” doctrine. They don’t want and won’t adhere to Western culture and laws. We have no way to vet the ones from terrorist countries as there are no records.
I have no doubt with so many running and getting elected to political offices, their goal is for us to acquiesce to their laws...we are the infidels. Sort of akin to the Borg in Star Trek....”You will be assimilated. Resistance is futile.”
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They lose when we face their violent hostility with love and compassion
You're a beautiful soul, twinA, but I cannot agree with this. We should have love and compassion for non-violent Muslims. Violent actors must always be met with equal or greater force. share
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Violence should be met with proportional action that minimises the overall bloodshed. That might include violence, but certainly shouldn't automatically entail it. And it certainly shouldn't amount to vengeance.
shareSorry twinA,
“They lose when we face their violent hostility with love and compassion,”
I concur with TexasJack...especially when the radical Muslims are sawing off heads! You notice I wrote “sawing off”. They weren’t quick beheadings....the evil souless pieces of caca got their thrill by sawing them off. There was a video of one victim (American man, I think), but I didn’t watch it. You could hear him screaming!
“It makes others see that their way is wrong, unjustified, and dangerous.”
Apparently it isn’t working. The “Lone Wolf” attacks are growing....actually they aren’t “lone wolves”...as there are others involved.
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You are neither naive or foolish...just hopeful. But, one cannot reason with the Islamic radicals. Why? They have no soul...they are murderous thugs. They have to be less than human to saw off a human victim’s head. There is no “best means of resistance”....only absolute fear and terror for the short while they are permitted to live.
Our kind had no soul when we gave the American Indian blankets laced with smallpox. Our kind had no soul when we sold, bought and enslaved other human beings. Our kind had no soul when we sent 6 million plus to gas chambers.
You cannot reason with those who live and relish by “Man’s inhumanity to Man”.
Amen! Well said, Jack!
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