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Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan

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Mongol: The Rise of Genghis Khan (2007)

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Kawa and I had an great exchange about him some time ago.

twinA:
I going to have to watch 'Mongol' now after all the good things heard about it, especially since it is about one very divisive historical figure who's a hero to some and tyrant to others.

Kawada_Kira:
I pretty much consider him a tyrant, but I like history and the story of Genghis Khan is pretty interesting regardless of opinions about it. It makes for a fascinating story.

To my knowledge, there have been two main views of Genghis in modern Mongolia. In the Mongolian People's Republic (1924-1992), the historiography pretty much held him to have been destructive to Mongolia; the expansionist period significantly depopulated the Mongolian homeland and depleted its economic base to fuel destructive wars for the khans to conquer new realms for themselves, enriching the nobility at the expense of the Mongolian people (not to mention the peoples who were conquered). This was considered to have significantly weakened the Mongolian homeland, leaving it poorer, depopulated, and vulnerable to later conquest by China. Since the fall of the socialist government in Mongolia and the disappearance of Marxist historical materialism from the historiography, Genghis has been reinvented as a national hero. But I don't consider the Mongolian People's Republic's interpretation to be debunked; I think their historiography was accurate and their arguments compelling.

Excerpt from the textbook “History of the Mongolian People’s Republic” (1973 edition):

“Genghis Khan played a definite and positive role in bringing the disunited tribes together into one state and in establishing a single Mongol state. But he and the feudal clique he had welded together directed all the energies of the state that had just been formed into wars of aggression and into enslaving other peoples.

The Mongol conquerers barbarously devastated the prosperous centres of the then civilized world and the yoke of the Genghis hordes hindered for many centuries the economic, political and cultural development of a whole series of countries in Asia and Europe. The predatory wars waged by the Mongol feudal nobles not only caused the peoples of the conquered countries incalculable suffering but also had a baneful effect on the mass of the simple arat population and on Mongolia itself. They helped to promote disunity among the Mongol nationality, exhausted the manpower resources of Mongolia and resulted in its protracted political, economic and cultural decay in the centuries that followed.

The empire of Genghis Khan had no common economic basis and represented a conglomeration of tribes and peoples which had fallen under the heavy yoke of the Mongol feudal nobles and suffered under the oppressive weight of the military-administrative government of the conquerors. In the final count there could be, and there was, only one result: the collapse of a power that was as unstable as it was extensive.”

twinA:
Very enlightening to read an account from the eastern side of the "iron curtain." I read that Genghis, without the easing of his closest advisors whom he trusted, would have preferred to raze to the ground even the world's most populated areas and cultural bedrocks, like China, without a second thought. Succeeding with this policy throughout much of Asia, leaving behind an immeasurable path of destruction, he intended the "newly" opened lands to only be utilized for cattle grazing!

The good things I can list about him outside of giving Mongolians a national identity include; introducing the coin currency exchange system throughout the empire, particularly the Golden Horde of Russia, the spreading of not only religious tolerance among different peoples but also incidentally creating widespread unity in resistance against them, and the opening up of the "silk road" between Europe and Asia that had been cut off for centuries and would be again centuries later.

The modern take reeks of historical revision but the problem is he has been dead for so long and documentation still had ways to go in his day and age, that we'll never know the true extent of atrocities he and followers committed nor the role he played in causing people to becoming friendlier with one another, even through means of inciting terror.

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The Birds???
Maybe a stretch😒

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I think it counts. 👍

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The Phantom of the Opera

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The Thing

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Bonnie and Clyde (1967)

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Dillinger (1945)

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Conversations with a Killer: The Ted Bundy Tapes

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Wyatt Earp (1994) ????

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Mr. Brooks

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