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Update 3/21/2019
I finally split from my boyfriend. It was super toxic and I am glad I am out, but this conversation is one of the first things I posted to the GBs and is very relevant. This is also how I met dewey.
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The following is the post as it appeared originally, about a year ago
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I just experienced a breakup about 3 weeks ago. We were together for a little over a year, and it's the first real relationship I've had. Neither of us did anything major or said anything really horrible, it just wasn't working.

So far so good right? You can probably relate in some way.

Ok, second round of details: we are both men. We are each around 30 years old. We were saying I love you. We were planning on moving in together. I did the breaking up.

It gets more and more complicated the more I tell, as I'm sure it would with any relationship, but all advice I find online is for straight people, or cheaters, or any number of situations that don't really apply. The main question I have is about remaining friends. The general consensus is to cut off contact and move on, or at least experience a period of no contact and reassess. Only problem is I've already tried this, with him, and we ended up getting back together. We initially dated for six months and split, and that was it, or so I thought.

For six months prior to our year we were apart with no contact. Neither of us are social media people (hence me asking moviechat) so we weren't stalking each other online. After that time I felt a growing fondness, perhaps due to his absence, and we reinitiated contact, but at this time he had moved away. He found his way back to where I live, probably for me but also because he had literally nothing going for him there. I told him I was interested in trying again but only if he found a job (no use trying with a deadbeat.) He very swiftly found a good job and committed to it.

Bottom line is I don't want it to be like before, I don't want to get back together and I do want to be his friend, but since I was the breaker and he the breakee, maybe I am toying with his mind too much. Maybe he's just pining and any contact gives him false hope. On the other hand, if I have no contact, will I predictably get back to the point where missing him makes me rekindle a relationship that I don't want to be in?

I want to be his friend, but I don't want him to forever feel like he's one step away from getting back together. I really want him to move on, and me, but I don't know what to do without at least a little of him.

Same sex couple experience, especially guys, would be much appreciated. Anyone can feel free to respond, but the way guys and especially gay guys are is very specific and not easy to find examples of in media and online advice.

Anyone have successful exes who became friend relationships?

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I'll start off by saying I'm straight.
Please don't hold that against me. ;)
I do have several gay friends. (like they all say.)
This is based on listening and observance only.

This is not unique to gay relationships.
The only difference would be that there are fewer gay people than straight people.
By this I mean that sometimes I think that people think that they are limited to what they see around them.
This isn't the case. It's a huge country and world.

In my experience people usually don't change.
It takes an extremely strong person to change who they are.
Not that people can't do it but they have to really truly and honestly want to change.
Most people SAY they want to change but never do.

I've never had and ex that I remained friends with.
Mostly because there was a reason I didn't want them in my life to begin with so why change it and take a step back?
I'm not saying it's easy or can't be done but for me it just doesn't work.

I try to live by -If something isn't working in your life than change it.
It's not always easy to be sure.

I think people often do something because they think they don't have a choice.
I've been through a lot of shit in my life and I can say there is always a choice.

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Thanks for the response, I know there are always choices to be made, and breaking up with him was a well considered choice, I just feel like I have too many choices and wondered if the Jerry and Elaine situation (or Jerry and George perhaps) was something anyone has successfully accomplished. I have seen him once since we split and it was very civil, but was probably too soon, both being guys it's hard to not want to bone in general and when you're next to someone you still care about it can really mess with you. Straight? Well nobody's perfect hehe

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I'm sure there are hundreds of those stories out there.
We remained friends for the rest of our lives type stuff.

From what I've seen it's usually resentment and the blame game.
I'm not saying it can't be done but at least one of the people would have to be a very strong individual.
It helps if both are.

Sometimes timing is just off. It usually take more than a few months to change this.
Often it takes several years.

I've heard several of my friends kicking themselves because they had a moment of weakness.
He was there, and I was there and we were drinking and nobody else was around.
One night can lead to months of aggravation.

I'm not saying it can't be done. I'm just saying it's not easy.
You already know this of course.

Wanting to bone is not exclusive to gay people.
With or without a bathhouse. lol

When I go to the gay clubs I get hit on all the time. At least somebody like me.
I consider it an honor and keep it in my back pocket for another day.
You just never know. I like to keep my options open.






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Bathhouses aren't really a thing anymore, I mean they are, but they're not. Nothing I have said is exclusive to being gay, just in general it seems like guys have a higher sex drive (my own perception and assumptions,) so when there are 2 guys it's definitely a recipe for sex. There's almost never a time when at least one partner doesn't want to, and often times it's both. I know you're trying to be helpful but there really are things that you just wouldn't understand no matter how many gay friends you have. There are things about straight people I will never understand, but as you said there are less gay people, so finding people with firsthand knowledge of your situation can difficult. I am not surprised the only response I got was from a heterosexual, I was just hoping even one gay person would give their story and make me feel a little less on my own little island.

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No worries.
If bathhouses aren't a thing anymore then I need to have a few chats.

It's true that I can never know exactly where you're coming from.
All I can give you is my experiences.

From what I've seen it's not the same but it is.
The details may be different but in the end it's still the same.
We all want to be appreciated and we all want to be loved.
We just take different paths to get there.




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And I gotta go to sleep, thanks for the chat

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It's character building for him, don't fret like a mother hen.

Go and see somebody fantastic and cast your old boyfriend to the kerb, it'll be better for both of you.

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Life has no set rules, but there are things we can figure out...

You don't have children together... A clean break is probably best for the both of you, seeing as you have been so close, yet feel that you don't want a relationship... This isn't just a friend who you happened to become intimate with, so why try to hold on to a friendship that hasn't existed for a year...

Sure, don't be nasty to one another, but don't actively keep in touch either... What's the point?

You "clearly" don't want a long term relationship with the guy. Why keep him hanging on?

Let the guy move on with his life... And do the same yourself...

Disclaimer: I'm straight.

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Pete, as another poster mentioned, life has no set rules, only a set of general guidelines. In most cases a clean break is the best thing. But this is not always true. The important thing is to be honest with him.

I dated a woman off and on again for years. Now she is one of my best friends. So it can work, though it's probably not common.

I hope this helps.


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Update: I have hung out with him a couple times in the month we've been apart, seems like we might transition to friends okay, but only time will tell.

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First, let me just say that I applaud your bravery.

I'm sure any man would be lucky to have you. You are charming and sincere. I do understand why you'd want your significant other to be employed, believe me. Not trying to pry, but haven't you got a nest egg from your own career?

On second thought, your income is between you and your government. Moving on...

I admire your accomplishments. You played all the bases, right and left field, with more outs than anyone else.

But your biggest home run is being who you are. I'm sure Carol must be supportive, and Kiana must be okay with things. You made my day. It's so wonderful to see one of America's greats championing the cause.

Go Reds!

"Antwerp, I already have one of those."

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Bumpy dumpty

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Less than a year ago I broke up with my most recent partner. We both came to the realization that we were not a good fit for each other, highlighted by years of her abusive behavior, my submissiveness, and a general mismatch of personal values to name but a few factors. It was toxic for both of us, but I did everything I could on my part to keep us together because my ex, my first true love and the person I had planned to spend the rest of my life with, was doing so well with her rebound relationship that my internal competitiveness refused to let this new one fail. Alas, after several years of trying to make this one work, I had to swallow the bitter lesson that sometimes two people just don't add up.

The silver lining is that after this most recent breakup, our relationship has improved immensely. We're better friends to each other, sharing positivity and support that was practically nonexistent when we were a romantic couple. To this day I consider her a close ally, and I'm glad she's not expressing constant anger and frustration like when we lived together. When it's time to enter into another relationship, I look forward to applying this experience and creating a stronger more lasting bond with a new partner.

Pete, your experience is more universal than you might presume. Most people who get out of relationships but still want to remain friends struggle to find this balance. The best advice I can give is to make it clear to the other person that you value their companionship and wish to continue as friends, but do not relentlessly hound them. If that person feels the same way, you two will find a way to move forward together in a new chapter.

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A year ago I wanted to remain friends, and we did. We are pretty good at being friends, and then we are too good and we got back together. We keep doing it and I'm sick of it. I'm bringing this thread back to remind myself how long I've been feeling this way and to never get back together with him. This means I probably can't stay friends with him for my own good. I feel free now and I just want to have my own life back, one that's been on hold.

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I'm straight, and a woman, so you may feel I can't offer much, but I think the thing any relationship has in common is that whole "friends or not friends after breaking up?" dilemma.

I honestly thing it's better to just make a clean break and move on. It's not impossible to be friends with an ex but it's very rare that there are not questions on the part of one or both parties, about getting back together.

It's very rare that just friends can work without those ponderings or one person feeling teased and dangled on a string.

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