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Do you think we are getting worse as a society?


I do some things getting better, but it just seems like people don't care as much as they use to about simple values. Be honest, work hard, don't cheat people.

And yeah it's competitive but I feel like these days lots of cruel things people do is totally unnecessary and is simply done out of malice.

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Well, being honest, working hard and not cheating don't make you rich...

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Exactly...being honest,worg hard and nice to people...some will take this as weak point...i've been there.

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It is a crap storm. No regulation, people are in chaos.

We need to do something fast or else we are all going to be ghetto like!

I am a perfect example of a person that is mostly honest, hard working, and not cheating.

Actionkamen is right, I get shat on; however, I know I am doing the right thing!

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Ghetto,Arvin?...no,i'm thinking on something much...better.

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Wait, what? When did I say you get shat on?

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"Well, being honest, working hard and not cheating don't make you rich"

I used "rich" as a synonym for "success" and "perfection".

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Are you kiddin'?

I'm living the life of Riley and don't have anything to worry about beyond making a living.

Let's see you in a knife fight to live just one more day.

There's a war coming. I'd be on my game if I were you.

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This thread has nothing to do with movies or TV...CHAOS!!

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The new element we're all trying to "come to grips" with is the internet. The advent of communication is continuing to evolve. Speculating, language began to evolve when apes began to stand on their hind legs to see over the grasses of the savanna, facilitated by this new isolation from the cacophony at ground level. Communication had evolved to be on a one-to-one basis. The advent of the written word represented a new evolution of communication, it had now evolved to one-to-all level. The internet represents an even further evolution of communication, to an all-to-all level. As with all advancements, this new stage comes with a whole host of both advantages and disadvantages. One of the biggest disadvantages that has emerged with this latest advancement of communication is, in my view, critical thinking has taken a beating as a sort of hivemind has taken shape. I believe this is the source of the perceived degradation of society that many of us feel we are observing. Roughly.

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Disclaimer, much of the above mentioned speculation is lovingly borrowed, from Douglas Adams (of Hitchhiker's Guide fame) no less, for what it's worth. But, I believe it's spot on. I'll link the source below, which I've been digesting since I first read it years ago.

http://www.biota.org/people/douglasadams/

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Well, we're doing better than we were during the Spanish Inquisition, or when a father was to make his daughter marry her rapist (Deuteronomy 22:28-29), but in a subtler sense, I think social media (which I acknowledge I am utilizing right now) does seem to have dumbed us down a bit.

Some of it is addressed HERE...but it seems to target younger people as being off. It's really all of us : (

SEE: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HK97VG-m3W0
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That was amusing, although I agree the problem is NOT just millennials, and and I'm tired of them being pounded on -- probably mostly by my generation. EVERY generation has their strengths and weaknesses, in general terms, which are dependent on whatever factors shaped them.

I just realised we don't hear anything about GenXers anymore. I wonder why that is.

I think social media and cell phones have contributed to a lack of genuine community and relationships, which is very negative. But, as you said, it's been much worse at other points in history!

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I'm not aware of any generation that has not been completely and genuinely appalled by the norms and customs of the generation that directly followed their own. Yet, without fail, generation after generation, down the line, has managed to eventually step up, and, if nothing else, contribute to the continuation of the species. In a very real sense, the opinions of the outgoing generation become increasingly irrelevant to the process of progress. It can be painful to see and experience as one's own generational norms and customs become superseded, but it is nonetheless how it seems to be.

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Good post.

That's probably why no one gripes about GenXers anymore.

It is true, in Western cultures, the outgoing generation becomes more and more irrelevant. Which is unfortunate because it means large groups of people become marginalised and isolated by the following generation(s). Until they too become the outgoing generation.

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(I have been pushed out on an ice floe, as we speak)

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Would you mind expanding on this slightly cryptic statement?

Edit: apologies for the two deleted posts, I triple posted.

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She was just making a joke about becoming more marginalised and irrelevant due to getting older.

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Of course, derp.

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This reminds me of a movie. bringing it all back to film!
It was about the civilization on Easter Island, the one that made the big head statues.
I am not sure how accurate it was anthropologically, but there is a beautiful scene where they put the old chief on a passing iceberg (which was uncommon that close to the equator, which is why they had mythology about them- they were special like eclipses).
Rapa Nui
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rapa-Nui_(film)
Anyway it is almost like a microcosm of the world now, the way they basically made themselves go extinct by using up all the island's resources to build these statues. They were all wrapped up in these wars and power struggles and religion, and they didn't even think about sustainability.
we never learn

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I just saw something about that in a documentary. They no longer think the peoples of Easter Island were so stupid they used up all their natural resources, deforesting their own habitat, as well as the habitat for the animals there, which were part of their survival. To the point where there wasn't even enough wood left for them to build boats to escape!

That never made much sense to me, because they'd first arrived there in boats/outriggers, meaning they had to be pretty smart to be able to navigate that far away, and they had to also be good at survival.

They weren't like modern "civilised" people, who have become so removed from and unaware of nature, sustainability is a remote thought.

Wish I could recall what the new explanation was. The documentary was about the Polynesians in general, and the Easter Island peoples were only one episode of several. If I can locate it, I'll watch it again and see what it was they said. All I remember now is it made a lot more sense than the original theory.

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I'm sure the movie was not historically accurate, so it doesn't surprise me that it was wrong. But it was a good analogy for us, we are the frog in the soup pot and the water just gets hotter so gradually we never wise up and jump out of the pot. The two classes in the movie (long ears and short ears) just couldn't recognize they were all in this together, just like us we keep fighting eachother in stupid greedy wars based on irrelevant details like race and religion, when we are all in the same boat.
Of course there is nowhere for us to go when we fuck this planet beyond salvaging it. So by the time we realize we are in the soup pot, we can't jump out anymore.

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It is a good analogy, as is the frog in the gradually boiling pot of water.

I've been trying to find that documentary again because now I'm curious. So far, no joy.

All I can find is the Wikipedia article, which cites the introduction of the Polynesian rat, and their subsequent population growth, as one of the main culprits. I think that was what was mentioned in the doc I saw.

Wiki also attributes it to climate change, overharvesting and overhunting, and that the upheaval experienced in their culture was primarily a reaction to their ecosystem being destroyed, less so the cause of it. Which makes a lot more sense.

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I agree that the rise of social media is very negative indeed. I think what makes today's society worse is that people emphasises on wealth more than ever. It's get rich or die tryin' and nothing else.

No longer we are striving to be a doctor for humanity, to be an artist for art, to be a scientist for the betterment of life, knowledge and everything. Everyone seemed only wants to be anything as long as it brings riches. Being a Kardashian is the only dream we got. Everyone and their granma is a celebrity in Instagram (or at least pretends to be one).

This is The American Dream taken to the extreme.

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You know, I think you're absolutely right. People now mistake their worth for their net worth, and behave as though their very lives are at stake attaining it. No matter the consequences to the planet or others -- even people they love -- or the diminished quality of their own lives in terms of emotional and psychological well-being, and physical health.

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