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Can Hip Hop merge with House/Club and still be Hip Hop?


In the very late 80s and early 90s, pre-Death Row, there was a lot of rap music set to House and Club music (Technotronic, Inner City, C+C Music Factory, Black Box...there'd even be dance/house remixes of tracks that were originally more organically Hip Hop.) Then as the 90s took shape, Hip Hop became grittier and any rap song that was set to a club/house beat wasn't considered real Hip Hop, but rather instead just a pop song that featured rapping.

Do you think a rap song set to a House/Club beat can be true Hip Hop, or is just pop?

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Yes, Azealia Banks is a good example of this.

Don't play games with a girl who can play better.

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As Oodles pointed out, 'hip house' was popular for a while, but when raves started getting bigger, house music producers ditched the hip hop samples in favor of techier sounds, so the subgenre eventually went away.

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Calvin Harris & Dizzee Rascal - Bonkers
Chemical Brothers & Q-tip - galvanise
Kanye West & Daft Punk - harder faster
Run DMC & Jason Nevins - like that
Mos Def - I against I

they're a few I can think of

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Hip Hop isn't as definable these days. Some of the artist mentioned above, also including Diplo / Major Lazer, Flo Rida, MIA include many types of sounds including house.

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Yeh Flo Rida that's true, also don't forget Pitbull

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It's not just these days. Hip hop artists have been making dance tracks for a long time...

Reckless (1984) - Ice-T:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWOqpSZDFx4

I'll House you (1988) - Jungle Brothers:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYF633P9rxk

Something 2 Dance 2 (1988) - N.W.A:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sp5Ah6tTkVo

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You can't forget Will Smith he was hip hop, but his music you could still dance to and the same with Kid & Play.

Even Bone Thugs new stuff is starting to have that pop/hip hop sound.

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