Left wing authoritarianism
For those who operate under the delusion that it's only a right wing phenomenon. Very interesting. Your get out of jail card is hereby revoked.
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s12144-023-04463-x
Interesting article but don't have the time to read it all. It fails to mention Jan 6th was a setup by the left to usher in the Era of Authoritarianism we are currently living in.
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What specifically are you referring to here in terms of "left-wing authoritarianism"? How is your freedom impacted?
Look at the numerous speeches Retard Joe has made where he call half the country "enemies of the state". If President Trump is reelected he is going to have to pardon every political prisoner either awaiting trial or already locked up over Jan 6th. I fear there are "plants" here on this board that could come after me for my posts here.
shareJoe Biden did not call half the country "enemies of the state". He referred to "MAGA Republicans" as threats to democracy.
What political prisoners, precisely?
>I fear there are "plants" here on this board that could come after me for my posts here.
So why haven't they? Why do people in the USA who are openly critical of Joe Biden operate publicly, under their full name? These are nobodies. These are activists, politicians, journalists, influencers who use Twitter and Facebook, attend public functions. If Biden is so authoritarian, why hasn't he arrested half of Fox News, and shut down the Daily Wire and associated movements and individuals?
Yes he did!! The only Republicans he's not referring to are the RINOs who are also a part of the Deep State and globalists as well.
shareNo, he did not. He referred to "MAGA Republicans" as threats to democracy in a specific speech.
>The only Republicans he's not referring to are the RINOs who are also a part of the Deep State and globalists as well.
What does this even mean?
And you didn't answer my question: Why do people in the USA who are openly critical of Joe Biden operate publicly, under their full name? These are nobodies. These are activists, politicians, journalists, influencers who use Twitter and Facebook, attend public functions. If Biden is so authoritarian, why hasn't he arrested half of Fox News, and shut down the Daily Wire and associated movements and individuals?
LOL, are you actually expecting an old senile “puppet on a string” to behave like a ranting screaming/kicking Hitler to demonstrate his authoritarianism?!…no need to answer that, it was rhetorical.
why hasn't he arrested half of Fox News, and shut down the Daily Wire and associated movements and individuals?
Ever heard of the Constitution, Bill of Rights, Amendments, and of course the illusion of Democracy (aka indirect democracy/representative democracy)?!…last time you ignored all of those.
I can provide an answer to your question with a couple of paragraphs of the how/why it is part of 21st century fascism/communism derived from Marxism-Leninism, but since you barely understand those concepts, it would be futile trying to explain any of it to you and how cultural/ideological subversion works.
Not that you will bother watching it but here is a 1985 13-min video from a KGB defector explaining “the brainwashing” that starts with demoralization. You are a perfect example of that brainwashing.
You can see from dozens of comments how precise and accurate his statement is with everything that is occurring today.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOmXiapfCs8 share
>LOL, are you actually expecting an old senile “puppet on a string” to behave like a ranting screaming/kicking Hitler to demonstrate his authoritarianism?!…no need to answer that, it was rhetorical.
In a way - yes. Authoritarianism is defined by implementing oppressive legislation designed to restrict the rights of specific groups, repress political opposition.
>Ever heard of the Constitution, Bill of Rights, Amendments, and of course the illusion of Democracy (aka indirect democracy/representative democracy)?!…last time you ignored all of those.
Right, so he can't actually do it even if he wanted to.
So what is this age of US authoritarianism you guys keep referring to?
>Not that you will bother watching it but here is a 1985 13-min video from a KGB defector explaining “the brainwashing” that starts with demoralization. You are a perfect example of that brainwashing.
What the hell does this have to do with anything?
The targetting of 1/6 rioters, while ignoring the far more numerious lefty rioters of the Trump years,
is a clear violation of their rights (equal protection clause) and makes them political prisoners.
FOr ONE example.
>The targetting of 1/6 rioters, while ignoring the far more numerious lefty rioters of the Trump years,
Are you saying people should just be allowed, legally, to storm into congress whilst its in session?
And I see no evidence that those rioters were ignored. Many were arrested - but it turns out that trying to charge Congress generally carries a harsher punishment.
What about murder? Does that carry a harsher punishment too? Cause the lefty riots were far deadlier than the one righty riot.
And no, pointing out the double standard is not a call for doing nothing. It is a call for a single standard of justice, ie one size fits all regardless of political affiliation.
You know, JUSTICE.
>What about murder? Does that carry a harsher punishment too? Cause the lefty riots were far deadlier than the one righty riot.
Any examples of people that committed murder in the US that were let off?
Well, yes. But my focus was on the difference between the massive focus on the 1/6 riot and the lack of anything like that on the far more deadly riots of the left.
That is not about a specific murderer, but the widespread and deadly riots...
Were you really confused by that, or just trying to change the subject?
My point about the double standard stands.
>Well, yes. But my focus was on the difference between the massive focus on the 1/6 riot and the lack of anything like that on the far more deadly riots of the left.
Plenty of people were arrested and jailed for those things.
And plenty were NOT.
And there has been ZERO attempt at after the fact follow up or investigation as per what has been done for the 1/6 riot.
Will you now address my point regarding that difference in treatment or do you want to keep pretending to not understand it?
>And plenty were NOT.
Plenty of people at the capitol riots weren't arrested either.
>And there has been ZERO attempt at after the fact follow up or investigation as per what has been done for the 1/6 riot.
Can you please refer to some specific riots please for context?
My point was clearly not about any specific riot, but about the overall lack of attempt to investigate afterwards the lefty riots as a whole.
Asking for a specific riot is simply you running away from a clear and simple point.
Their is a double standard. That is a violation of the human rights of the accused. As that violation is based on politics, all the prisoners are thus political prisoners.
For they are imprisoned not primarily for their crimes, because we can see that the government doesn't give a DAMN about those crimes, but only uses them as an excuse to hammer their political enemies.
>My point was clearly not about any specific riot, but about the overall lack of attempt to investigate afterwards the lefty riots as a whole.
It's not really surprising to me that the state would take a lot more seriously an attempt to invade Congress more than they would city riots, which, unfortunately - happen a lot in the USA generally. A lot of the riots too are pretty uncontroversial - there's nothing really to investigate - the origins were known, and the effects were known.
Are you suggesting a huge national inquiry for every single riot?
I'm suggesting nothing. I am clearly stating that hundreds of riots with many people killed and hundreds of millions of dollars in damage, is at least EQUAL to the one 1.6 riot,
and that for the government to go after the one smaller group of rioters from 1/6 and to ignore the far more numerous rioters of the other riots,
is a double standard and thus a violation of their human rights and makes them thus political prisoners.
Would you like to address that now, or do we want to go over that a few dozen more times?
You think every single riot in the USA should have years investigations behind it?
This is just utterly bonkers. Plenty of people in the USA get arrested for riots, and did. They're just a lot less notable than the Capitol riots. What is there to investigate? How do you know local law enforcement doesn't do follow-up raids? Do you have evidence that the proportion of people arrested in the capitol riots was higher than many BLM riots?
How much congressional investigations were done over who was behind the riots and what their plans were and to hold them resopnsible for their crimes?
Hint, it rhymes with "Hero".
>How much congressional investigations were done over who was behind the riots and what their plans were and to hold them resopnsible for their crimes?
I've already answered this. Street/city riots are often spontaneous and there's no real mystery or conspiracy behind them. What do you want to investigate? Do you want like 30+ concurrent investigations going on at once or something?
It is cool that you just know that the hundreds of riots were not organized by the criminal, violent, terrorist groups that advocate violence against the government and society.
What I want, I will repeat again, I want equal justice for people, regardless of their political affiliation.
Either give the people behind the 1/6 riot the pass you gave all the others, OR give them the same witch hunt you gave the Oath Keepers and Proud Boys.
>It is cool that you just know that the hundreds of riots were not organized by the criminal, violent, terrorist groups that advocate violence against the government and society.
How do you know there aren't local follow-up investigations? I know you don't like answering questions but: Do you have evidence that the proportion of people arrested in the capitol riots was higher than many BLM riots?
>Either give the people behind the 1/6 riot the pass you gave all the others, OR give them the same witch hunt you gave the Oath Keepers and Proud Boys.
Who is getting passed? You haven't even cited any sources here.
We can see the witch hunts and heavy sentences handed out to the 1/6 rioters, while there is nothing being done about the antifa and blm rioters.
You want a source? About what? Are you not aware of the massive investigations and trials against the 1/6 rioters? How would I link to a LACK of such efforts aimed at antifa and blm?
LOL.
>We can see the witch hunts and heavy sentences handed out to the 1/6 rioters, while there is nothing being done about the antifa and blm rioters.
>You want a source? About what? Are you not aware of the massive investigations and trials against the 1/6 rioters? How would I link to a LACK of such efforts aimed at antifa and blm?
Source for your claim that Antifa and BLM rioters never get charged with anything.
You said that before, repeatedly and I repeatedly pointed out that the government is going after the 1/6 rioters with congressional investigations and massive investigations and doing nothing similar for the antifa and blm rioters.
That is my point, the double standard. Your pointing to the rioters that happened to be arrested DURING the riots, by street cops, does not address it at all.
As you obviously realize.
Would you like to address my point now, or would you like to have me explain it to you AGAIN?
>You said that before, repeatedly and I repeatedly pointed out that the government is going after the 1/6 rioters with congressional investigations and massive investigations and doing nothing similar for the antifa and blm rioters.
Because it was an attack, or is treated as an attack on democracy. Vandalism in cities is just not viewed as the same.
If the Houses of Parliament in the Uk were raided by a swarm of protesters whilst in session, it would command much more long-term attention than some riots in Bristol or Cardiff.
I don't know why this surprises you. If a bunch of Democrats swarmed Congress after Trump was sworn in in 2017, the same shit would happen. Threatening the seat of government is a big deal.
People dying is pretty serious.
Thus your pretense that it was just "vandalism" is you being dishonest in support of them.
A double standard of going after right leaning rioters, as few as there are, with massive witch hunts, while not going after the far more numerous and deadly left leaning rioters,
is tryanny and oppression. Those in jail, are thus political prisoners.
That bit, where you pretended that murder was just vandalism?
That is you getting caught as being on the side of the left rioters and the goverment thugs that are giving them a pass.
>People dying is pretty serious.
Yes, and any examples of people being let off for murder during some of those riots?
>Thus your pretense that it was just "vandalism" is you being dishonest in support of them.
At no point have I ever supported them. I do not support riots. Looting as well, sure.
>A double standard of going after right leaning rioters, as few as there are, with massive witch hunts, while not going after the far more numerous and deadly left leaning rioters,
Any examples of leftists rioters currently free?
>is tryanny and oppression. Those in jail, are thus political prisoners.
Did any of them not do what they are accused of doing?
>That bit, where you pretended that murder was just vandalism?
Any examples of people being let off for murder during some of those riots?
Sources or GTFO
The fact that the rioters of the left are not being pursued after teh fact, while the right leaning rioters are,
is a double standard.
You've at teh same time, denied this double standard AND denied it.
And minimized the deaths the left leaning riots caused by callling them vandalism.
>The fact that the rioters of the left are not being pursued after teh fact, while the right leaning rioters are,
Not by the federal government though. I expect this is because as I said:
"If the Houses of Parliament in the Uk were raided by a swarm of protesters whilst in session, it would command much more long-term attention than some riots in Bristol or Cardiff.
I don't know why this surprises you. If a bunch of Democrats swarmed Congress after Trump was sworn in in 2017, the same shit would happen. Threatening the seat of government is a big deal".
Still waiting on some sources for murders ignored, or arsonists ignored, or looters ignored.
I don't think it would. We got oddly used to "mostly peaceful protestors" dong all kinds of shit and we just let it ride, mostly.
It was not until a group of RIGHT leaning protestors got out of hand and rioted that suddenly the government decided to crack down.
>I don't think it would. We got oddly used to "mostly peaceful protestors" dong all kinds of shit and we just let it ride, mostly.
Any group raiding Congress would not be ignored dude, no matter who they are.
They did plenty of shit, up to and including killing a cop, and people just sort of accepted it.
The difference is NOT where or what was done, the difference is WHO did it.
Lefties? "mostly peaceful".
Righties? " TREASON".
>They did plenty of shit, up to and including killing a cop, and people just sort of accepted it.
What cop was killed that people accepted? Or are you referring to the Capitol riots?
>Righties? " TREASON".
That particular group, yes.
The whole political correctness movement, which is now known as "woke" is a measure to silence conservatives and limit discourse. Conservatives voices are being forced out of college campuses, censored on social media and 95% of the mainstream news is controlled by leftists who slander us and mislead the American people all day long.
shareThe "PC" movement long predates January the 6th, and I am specifically referring to legislation here. What legislation is passed that restricts your civil liberties?
Private companies taking a partisan position is something they simply have the right to do.
No shit sherlock. You obviously didn't read the article if all you can do is reference Jan 6.
Oh well then I guess it's all okay then for one side of the political spectrum to control the flow of information and use that to slander and silence the opposition.
>No shit sherlock. You obviously didn't read the article if all you can do is reference Jan 6.
I was specifically referring to the claim by u/blue1981 that "Jan 6th was a setup by the left to usher in the Era of Authoritarianism we are currently living in."
>Oh well then I guess it's all okay then for one side of the political spectrum to control the flow of information and use that to slander and silence the opposition.
I didn't suggest it was okay necessarily. Just noting that it is not a government issue. Being banned from Facebook is not a violation of your civil liberties. What rights do you think social media companies have regarding regulating their own users, and how far should it go?
Social media has legal protections that should've been revoked long ago. When we have a republican controlled congress, that will happen. We want "free" speech. Truly free. You want to win. That is the distinction.
shareYou do realise that removing those legal protections will instantly destroy all social media, right? They will just shut down rather than risk being prosecuted.
>We want "free" speech. Truly free. You want to win. That is the distinction.
Define "truly free" speech here. What do you mean specifically?
Your side wants to win too, Cletus. Why is that a bad thing? I don't think that you know how free speech works. It looks like your home schooling has failed you.
shareYour side wants to win too
Yes, it is called “individual liberty” against radical left wing authoritarianism.
But you Lefties “invert” almost everything; for example:
-We want individual liberty to sacrifice children (done)
-We want individual liberty to be immoral degenerates (done)
-We want individual liberty to sexualize and groom children (done)
-We want individual liberty to castrate and mutilate children (done)
-We want individual liberty to be racist against whites (done)
-We want individual liberty to destroy women’s place in all areas using the trans (done)
-We want individual liberty to censor and cancel anyone that opposes us (done)
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>-We want individual liberty to sacrifice children (done)
No.
>-We want individual liberty to be immoral degenerates (done)
I mean. What are you calling "immoral degenerates"? If by this you just mean LGBT stuff, then yes. Civil liberties matter. Are you saying people should not be allowed to be LGBT by law?
>-We want individual liberty to sexualize and groom children (done)
No.
>-We want individual liberty to castrate and mutilate children (done)
No.
>-We want individual liberty to be racist against whites (done)
No.
>-We want individual liberty to destroy women’s place in all areas using the trans (done)
I don't.
>-We want individual liberty to censor and cancel anyone that opposes us (done)
No.
You are displaying your stupidity and gullibility here. Just because I disagree with you doesn't mean I support any of your above claims.
shareIt makes no difference whether you agree or disagree, the only thing worse than a lefty that is out in the open and does not deny that they are a lefty is a hypocritical and disingenuous impostor, impersonator, and pretender…….Own it.
shareI couldn't care less what you think about me. You are just an insignificant anonymous user on a public message board who continues to show their stupidity and gullibility.
shareI couldn't care less what you think about me. You are just an insignificant anonymous user
And yet, you continue to reply to me. If you were sincere about it you would have placed me on ignore a long time ago. I guess a paid troll like you has to make a living somehow. share
I'm sick and tired of the constant complaining by cons that their voice is not heard. Private media has a right to publish what they want. There are plenty of places for you to get your conspiracy fix--Fox News, the most-watched channel in the nation, is nothing but right-wing hate and disinfo 24/7. Sounds like what you want is not freedom of speech, but government intrusion into the politics of private entities, and rule by fiat over governmental entities.
shareAnd if the roles were reversed, you'd be throwing a fit like a 2yr old. Like they're doing over Musk buying Twitter.
shareWhat will happen when you get what you want? The roles are not reversing. On the contrary. Say your wildest political dreams are realised? In your lifetime (I'm assuming you are older than 2 yrs, because 2 yr olds don't understand the concept of brainwashing). What will you do?
shareLive in peace and keep more of my money.
shareWhat is stopping you from living in peace NOW? You do realise that life is not that long, right? If you are in your mid 20s, and you drink the occasional glass of wine or beer daily, and you live a sedentary lifestyle, and if you are overweight, you will probably die in 45-50 years. Why wait?
shareBecause if we don't stop this lunacy now, there won't be a future to look forward to, or an America to call home.
shareOh I see. You are being noble. Try a little experiment. The next time you go to a protest, just count on which side the word 'hates' appears more in their slogans. Try to remember your holy books, and compare their messages to the messages your pastors and grifter politicians are providing to you.
If you want to bring back the 50s, what future do you hope to espy on the horizon? If you want to keep the nonwhites in their place, what place will be reserved for you in history? If like your fallen brothers, you would rather die than accept healthcare, what is the rationale behind this? If you consider your hate as the emblazonment of righteousness, why do pictures of your crowd show snarls, and little beady hateful expressions?
I have two businesses to run, no time for protests.
You obviously have no friggin' clue what messages my pastors are providing to me. None whatsoever.
Who said anything about the 50's? Or suppressing non-whites? Or hatred??? Stop projecting.
Who said anything about the 50's?
So if I go through your posting history, I won't find examples of you making such stances?
I may not have businesses to run, but my time is not going to be spent trying to expose the chronic and serial lying that you indulge in.
My posts were never about proving you as a dim hypocrite. It was of course, not about changing your mind.
It was simply about giving some of the posters here some support.
Your brothers and sisters tried to stop female emancipation and failed.
Your kith and kin tried to prevent the ending of slavery and they failed.
Your idols tried to prevent the removal of confederacy totems and they failed.
Your brethren tried to put the kibosh on the Civil Rights movement and it failed.
Your politicians tried to cut taxes from the 70s to now and succeeded. Your loss.
Your side has lobbied for the curtailing of trade unions and succeeded. Your loss.
Your own womenfolk have canvassed for changes in abortion laws. Your loss.
Your friends dropped out of college and are proud of it. Your loss.
Another clueless and brainwashed liberal:
The Truth and Shameful Legacy of the Democrats:
https://postimg.cc/Lq37NSsK
Your stupid meme proves nothing. You really are a dumbass and very gullible.
shareMemes are the best method to properly communicate with imbeciles and idiots like you; after all, you should know since you are constantly using the same conspiracy tin-foil cat meme.
Btw, is Luffy one of your sock accounts?
Uh, no.
I'm not a liar or a hypocrite.
The rest of your post is a bunch of made up bullshit. Proof you don't know me or what I believe in.
Unlike your ilk, I actually believe in equality for all, including women and minorities. Actual equality. No affirmative action. No diversity hiring. No quotas. Merit alone without any special considerations.
I'm not even going to attempt to educate you about "confederate totems".
You like paying taxes? I don't.
Unions have long outlived their usefulness. Now they exist only to perpetuate themselves. Of course, those who can't survive on merit still cling to them.
Most pro-life voters are women. Because killing your unborn children is inherently evil.
I don't know what your last line is supposed to mean. I finished college and my wife got her masters in five years. That said, "higher" education is highly overrated. Because these days it amounts to little more than liberal indoctrination. we have a whole generation of entitled liberal losers who thought a $100k/yr job would be waiting for them.
Lies. Fox news and conservatives do not foment hate. That's your DNC propaganda talking. ALL the hate on mainstream news comes from CNN and worse, MSNBC. And it's networks like those that created the market for Fox. I don't want news slanted in either direction but I'll could no longer stomach the obvious liberal bias on CNN. Liberals are notoriously dimwitted and unreflective, so you probably think there is no liberal bias on those networks.
shareAdmittedly, there was some misinformation about Jan 6 in there but that could be due to the timing of the research.
shareHahahaha ... aren't you in enough trouble and busy enough not to have time for this kind of BS Donald? ;-)
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