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Why doesn't Europe suffer with gun crime anywhere near to the extent of the US?


I'm not American. I don't wish to dictate US policy on this. I understand why people might feel they need arms in the US (almost a domestic arms race). There are a lot of guns in the US, and any process of disarmament would be risky and probably impossible at this point. You just can't extract them from the USA. There's no magic switch.

Guns are still accessible in Europe. It's still possible to get them. Criminal gangs do this, but we still don't get anywhere near the same level of violence with them. And no, knife crime does not make up the difference. US murder rate is much higher than UK:

https://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/compare/United-Kingdom/United-States/Crime/Violent-crime

So why is this? The adage here is "There's no way to stop this" says the only country where this happens.

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The U.S. is full of an increasing number of thugs and narcissistic man-babies (and some women-babies) who lash out and throw tantrums with deadly weapons, of which there is an abundance. Over 50% of all homicides are committed by young black men (a mere 6% of the U.S. population). The mass shooters walking into workplaces, schools, etc. that get highly publicized is a different phenomenon, but both may be comprised of people, many of them young and/or immature, who don't feel seen or heard and haven't been taught how else to cope with it, so their anger grows until it bursts. There's a variety of factors that play into this, but much of it may be the byproduct of citizens being treated like political pawns, and/or their frustrations being ignored, instead of someone actually giving a damn.

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We need good fathers back in the home desperately.

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Country's full of guns.
whatcha gonna do?
cant be fixed.
cant remove them .
even if they wanted to , and only half of them want to

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Because you retards wanna talk about guns and we wanna talk about criminals. The monsters that your failed liberal ideology has created. Time to admit your failure.

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If you want to frame it in that way, then why does Europe generally have a much smaller murder and violent crime rate?

How did "failed liberal ideology" create this?

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Money. The NRA poured money into the Republican Party to get them to help gun manufacturers sell more guns for profit.

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You have guns for hobby, and control of the people. We have guns to secure and protect our inherent, inalienable rights we were born with, from all threats...foreign and domestic.

Let me ask you a couple of questions. Do you believe all humans on Earth are born with the inalienable rights, as stated, in the US Constitution?

Or, do you believe that people are generally purposeless, enslavable, and their rights are only granted to them by a governing authority? And if so, what gave the governing class that authority in the first place?

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>You have guns for hobby, and control of the people. We have guns to secure and protect our inherent, inalienable rights we were born with, from all threats...foreign and domestic.

Okay.

>Let me ask you a question. Do you believe all humans on Earth are born with the inalienable rights, as stated, in the US Constitution? Or, do you believe that people are generally purposeless, enslavable, and their rights are only granted to them by a governing authority? And if so, what gave the governing class that authority in the first place?

Yes, I believe in human rights.

I'd like an answer to my question.

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No, do you believe that humans are born with them, and if they are inalienable? Not, if you simply believe they should exist.

The answer to your question is the blatant destruction of the family by marxists and leftists, has left children fatherless and directionless and leads directly to violent crime and incarceration.

I answered your question, now kindly answer mine.

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>No, do you believe that humans are born with them, and if they are inalienable? Not, if you simply believe they should exist.

I can respect the sentiment of 'inalienable rights', but ultimately they are assertions of a people's will. They don't literally exist in some metaphysical sense. We should have them though, obviously.

>The answer to your question is the blatant destruction of the family by marxists and leftists, has left children fatherless and directionless and leads directly to violent crime and incarceration.

Except Europe, by your logic, is further along that path. We're less religious (much less religious). Much of Europe has had gay marriage legal longer than the USA. The acceptance of trans-issues is roughly comparable (at least in much of western europe).

Hell drag culture was a much bigger thing here at one point.

Why do we have less gun crime, and much less violent crime generally?

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because you were smart to outlaw Guns

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