If you think allowing your political pages to be taken over by "the vote was rigged" deplorables is good because "freedom of speech," you must be part of that same sick pack of retrograde return-to-the-50s advocates. I advise a little firmer moderation, especially regarding elections, if you want to be thought of as good citizens of the internet world.
shareYou are suggesting that we take action against posts expressing a specific viewpoint, which is something we will not do. They are free to make that claim, and you are free to respond.
shareIf you take the position that a lie is a "viewpoint," I am really disappointed.
shareGoing by your logic isn't believing in God a "viewpoint" ? Do you think the Moderators should crack down on people who express that belief ?
Faith is neither provable nor disprovable, so the comparison is not apt. There should be no debate, after 62 failed court applications, over who won the 2020 election. There are no alternative viewpoints about that. That is why the moderators acting like amoral, apolitical middlemen is a total abdication of responsibility, and they should at some point I hope see what evils may come when good people fail to act against the promulgation of lies.
shareOf course there are alternative viewpoints you idiot. People who don't trust the Courts don't care how many failed applications there have been. In my opinion the whole debate is ludicrous anyway. The system is corrupt and it doesn't matter which sticker you put on the midden heap whether it's Democrat or Republic.
Well known MC conspiracy nut doesn't believe in facts!
shareWhat it comes down to moron is that you believe one thing ( that you choose to call a fact ) and other people believe something else.
You deny reality.
shareLook who's talking. You deny that you're a troll.
You sound like a paranoid schizophrenic. All courts are corrupt because they didn't side with your QAnon conspiracy theory. Even Fox’s Murdoch knew your cult is crazy.
shareSame old relentless endless shtick day after day. Don't you ever get tired of it ?
62 failed court applications over who won the 2020 election with no case presented by Trump to support his position. At some point, you need to give up your lost cause. Even Fox’s Murdoch knew your cult is crazy.
shareAnd you sound like a pathological liar, because... you are! Delete your account.
shareWhat it comes down to moron is that you believe one thing ( that you choose to call a fact ) and other people believe something else.
So truth or fact is meaningless to you?
you just choose to believe whatever you think would be best is the truth?
are you Donald Trump???
I think I'll start choosing to believe that 2+2=5
maybe my salary will go up.
And by your logic, MAGA is basically a cult.
shareFACT: In order for a statement to be a lie the person saying it must know it is untrue at the time it is said. Prove me wrong.
shareHITLER DID NOTHING WRO... Oh wait, wrong topic. What's with those multiple-accounts of yours? Or similar names for that matter.
PS: In order to win the information war you must first defeat the enemy. There were Nazis parading and saluting Hitler until his defeat where they all dissolved in the US (excluding neo). Food for thought.
That is the stick-your-head-in-the-sand approach to moderation ... done only because it costs too much.
The fact is that when you have a group or either dedicated or paid operatives without competent moderation they take over the discussion, backing up and reinforcing each other, and insulting contrary opinions. Doing nothing is in fact siding with the far right.
- or the far-Left if the far Left was as vicious and conspiratorial as the far-Right. And as proof of that one only has to scratch the surface of the news ... that is, starting with Fox News.
You are so full of shit and backward. Educate yourself.
shareI believe you are correct. When I read comments in The NY Times or WAPO, the crazy posts are there, but way at the end. But they are not put there by the news editors, but by the readers, who can "like" a comment, and so form a list starting with most worthy to least worthy--in the minds of the readers themselves--comments. So it is not a cost issue--you could say the readers are like unpaid editors. If Moviechat were to institute a similar "like" system, I wonder what their comment board would look like?
shareI wonder what their comment board would look like?
The moderator team is not The Truth Police. Everyone is welcome to post their views and give whatever value they choose to the posts of others.
shareYou didn't get the gist of my post. Letting people "like" posts, and ranking them according to number of likes, does not involve you in any "Truth Police" role. It's just a way of letting the "cream" rise to the top. People can use the "most liked" function or not, it's up to them, if you use the same method as the Times or the Post. Surely you read those two news outlets--do you never click "most-liked" on their comment boards in order to see how the majority of people feel about a subject? Your use of the term "Truth Police" seems rather childish and crying-wolf silly, as well as being an un-merited Orwell appropriation.
shareMy un-merited Orwell appropriation was in response to brux's post, not yours.
shareIf you want Reddit....then go, and stay on Reddit.
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Sounds like you have some great ideas for your own website (which no one will go to because of the CCP-level censorship)
shareThat's just a deflection. When you guys undertook to continue IMBD's movie forums you have a responsibility not to let it turn into ... well, what it has turned into.
Actresses are either hated or rated.
Minorities are constantly assailed and insulted.
Constant repetitive postings with groups of the same individuals talking about Democrats like the Nazis talked about Jews, or how the Rwandans talked about their minorities before they started hacking them to pieces.
I try to keep it to a minimum. but profanity and disgusting speech prevails.
If any of you moderators had kids and were responsible members of society you would recognize in a flash what is suitable for speech here and what is not, and it is not all about truth police.
I am not talking about people posting their legitimate civil political views at all, and that is all you guys ever do ... and then when you get backed into a corner you drop the - well, you can always leave.
WAHHHHHH
PEOPLE ARE TELLING THE TRUTH, STOP THEM
WAHHHHHH
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Asking the mods to take a side on issues, and shut down conversations is a dangerous precedent to set, and it will eventually backfire on you.
Maybe you should work on your debating skills instead. It shouldn’t be hard to defeat their argument if they are outright lies. But asking for censorship is really pathetic.
So true. It'd be like censoring brux for supporting Putin or that COVID actually came from the US and that they also blew up the Nord Stream pipeline. So evil.
PS: US is secretly suppressing the Uhyghurs
If they are worried about individual users trolling, they could just ban that user, rather than banning topics.
I would rather have them allow the topic, and let people decide what is right and wrong through debate, than to make moderation staff the arbiters of what opinion is right and wrong, and mod anyone that disagrees. Which is what most other sites do. This is how echo chambers are born.
FU, Whoricon, don't talk about me behind my back, you turd. Directly reply to something I've posted or don't mention me at all.
And I don't support Putin, I call out US propaganda and lies ... most of which you actively and dishonestly support. You're the MovieChat equivalent of Fox News, meaning you have no integrity and negative value.
"You're the MovieChat equivalent of CNN/MSNBC News, meaning you have no integrity and negative value."
See what I did there. All any of the liberals here do is repeat the lies they hear on the news.
You can repeat it, which is all you can do, but it doesn't make it true.
Have you bothered to read what was going on in Fox News. Such did not go on in CNN. You are the zombies infected by the toxic Fox News and you have lost any human ability to reason you ever had. That is why you just turn around and repeat like that, you don't know or care about the difference.
I hate to burst your bubble but I don't watch Fox News. I don't need a talking head to tell me what to think.
CNN lies every fucking day. I know, because they're lying about me. Just like you, they say things about ME that I KNOW to not be true. That is the definition of a liar.
You're still deranged by the MSM Controlled Opposition Network? Dude, Fox is a LARP. 🤣🤣🤣
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See, that is the biggest problem here. Lies. I NEVER agree with brux but I know that brux does not support Putin. I know of no one who actually does. But you morons accuse anyone who disagrees with our intervention in the Ukraine of being Putin supporters or pro-Russia. That is exactly the sort of thing that divides people.
shareGo on Twitter and read Conservative Peter Hitchens is all I can point to to describe a reasoned understanding approach to this war.
https://twitter.com/ClarkeMicah
Yes, I know it says Clarke Micah, but it is Peter Hitchens who for some reason goes by that handle.
Hitchens is practically the only Conservative who I agree with on a majority of issues, and even when I disagree with him I can understand his point and follow his logic ... and he does have logic. He has the integrity to not attack half the population he knows is needed to make this world a better place.
The problem is exactly as you say - others attack him from both sides.
UnHerd Club - The Ukraine Debate with Edward Lucas, Konstantin Kisin, Peter Hitchens & Thomas Fazi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0orsI3rQ0Mw&t=1s
Another excellent debate is this one with John Mearsheimer:
Munk Debate: Russia-Ukraine War | Stephen Walt, John Mearsheimer v Michael McFaul, Radosław Sikorski
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhgWLmd7mCo
The only problem with the two debates is that they are the Oxford style riggable debates where they vote on a resolution at the beginning and end and the side that gains votes wins the debate.
Asking the mods to take a side on issues, and shut down conversations is a dangerous precedent to set
Their entire ideology is based on lies, and literally requires censorship to exist.
This is what we're up against.
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I'm just asking them to shut down election deniers. Although if they don't, that's OK too, because those screaming mimis are only depressing their own side's turnout at the polls. (You can't have an honest debate when one side uses "alternative facts.")
shareif thats the case, then dems should be shut down too, they were election deniers in 2016. remember when Nancy said the election was hijacked?
shareSee what I mean about "alternative facts." But I sure do remember the howling and screaming from Trump. No one plays the victim like your orange mesiah. How many lawsuits did Clinton file? You just can't "bothsides" this, it's not even close to a fair-minded person.
All those efforts to overturn the election can be a bit dizzying, so USA TODAY has broken it down by the numbers to help make sense of it all.
Election lawsuits: 62
The president and his allies filed 62 lawsuits in state and federal courts seeking to overturn election results in states the president lost, according to Marc Elias, a Democratic election lawyer who is tracking the outcomes.
Election lawsuit defeats: 61
Out of the 62 lawsuits filed challenging the presidential election, 61 have failed, according to Elias.
Lawsuits filed by Clinton over the 2016 election? 0
Ahhh this never gets old...
https://notthebee.com/article/save-this-10-straight-minutes-of-democrats-denying-election-results-the-next-time-someone-says-republicans-are-election-deniers
You're welcome.
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THIS POST MAKES YOU LOOK WEAK AND PATHETIC...SACK UP,BRO.
shareNot as weak as those that put people on ignore because they can't debate or get too easily triggered. There are many of those on MC. :P
shareWORD.
shareIt's way more fun to ignore people while not adding them to a list.
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"If you think allowing your political pages to be taken over by "the vote was rigged" deplorables is good because "freedom of speech," you must be part of that same sick pack of retrograde return-to-the-50s advocates. I advise a little firmer moderation, especially regarding elections, if you want to be thought of as good citizens of the internet world."
Questioning the outcome of elections is the most "democratic" principle there is. It's worthy of note that we don't want to cheat, we want to eliminate the possibility of cheating. Why are you so against that???
This is exactly what liberals have been doing the last several years. Shutting down all discourse that they do not like. In other words, shutting down the opposition. That's why we call you fascists. Because you're fascists.
When you live a life based on lies, the only way to sustain it is censorship.
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It was not questioning, searching for the truth, it was actively claiming something they all knew damn well was a lie in order to corrupt the country.
You see your existence is the proof that once you start down the path of lies you end up completely full of .... them.
liberals really are fascists! get that free speech banned eh!?
what you've just written sounds like some chinese communist social credit score bs
Funny how a guy who doesn't back the blue is the biggest snitch here. Couldn't stand your ground in debate and now you tuck your tail between your legs. Seriously who starts threads crying to moderators to pick sides on a public forum? If this was audio instead of text you would be one of those cackling lunatic TikTok memes yelling and screaming for no reason.
https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1627208925039697920/pu/vid/720x1280/aSASawXCzvdOodnE.mp4?tag=12
Leftists in a nutshell..
shareYou can always leave. Door's right there. -------------->
If you want to live in an echo-chamber hugbox, go to Reddit.
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