Since women are being forced against their will to have babies they can't support, the men who supported this should have self-accountability?
Parents are parents regardless of gender.
"Parents are parents regardless of gender." lol wut?
shareYou have to accept you are dealing with tilly. MC’s lost in space philosopher. 🥴🤪
shareIt's called accountability for BOTH parents to do their jobs. Maybe you forgot......or not properly educated on this 😅 But women don't get pregnant by themselves, it takes two. Sorry for the fact that your dad didnt do the same for you....... Maybe that's why you're the bitter troll you are today.
share” It's called accountability for BOTH parents to do their jobs.”
I never said otherwise! Of course the man should be held responsible along with the woman who spread her legs. How do you explain your statement about me being a “bitter troll”? Are you an idiot by nature or was it a learning process?
You've acted like a bitter troll in the past. You always refer to me as "Tilly" when I say something that makes you butthurt and triggers you. Lol
shareI’ve never acted like a bitter troll in the past. You should look into a mirror if you want to see a real troll. OK, how about waltzing Matilda? And you are correct! You do make my butt hurt (two words) when you say something nonsensical as you are currently doing. 🤷🏼♀️ I don’t suffer fools lightly which puts you into the top 10 of fools.
shareI never said otherwise! Of course the man should be held responsible along with the woman who spread her legs. How do you explain your statement about me being a “bitter troll”? Are you an idiot by nature or was it a learning process?
It looked pretty obvious to me: Jowilli says something stupid , and you reply , but instead of correcting joWilli to the "man should be held responsible " view that both you and Tilda apparently agree on , you just start insulting Matilda , and continue to do so in each subsequent post
Oh no, you aren’t getting off that easily! What did Jowilli say which was stupid and I was to correct? I started insulting Tilly? Did you not read where the half baked Tilly called me a “bitter troll”? And you’re damn right I’m calling her out over her lies. We’ve dealt with liar Tilly for too long. She has no substance so when she replies she either insults, lies or both. She lives to insult with lies. She’s evil of soul! Did you not read her lying deranged reply to me?
This is Tilly to me:
”Like I said before. So sorry that your mom's baby daddy aka your dad wasn't manly enough to fulfill his duties as a parent and walked out on you like a coward.
Sorry he couldn't do the most important adult job he had and that it made you the bitter and angry troll you are today.”
Her life is one big lying fairytale! She’s incapable of posting with the truth so when she’s backed into a corner she makes up stories like a kid does. She’s a disgusting twit!
ok:
"What did Jowilli say which was stupid and I was to correct? "
he said ""Parents are parents regardless of gender." lol wut?"
Clearly not grasping that the father has some responsibility to child as well as the mother
Instead of saying then what you later said ("Of course the man should be held responsible along with the woman ") you instead said " you are dealing with tilly. MC’s lost in space philosopher. "
At this point tilly calls you a troll and starts explaining why a man has duties too , seeing as you agreed with Jowilli that the man having responsibility is ridiculous.
then it just went down hill from there really.
" your dad wasn't manly enough ".. blah blah
I can only go from what is written in this thread ,not some previous beef, as should the participents.
"your dad wasn't manly enough "..
It is in this thread.
"Parents are parents regardless of gender." lol wut?"
Jowilli made an innocuous reply. Her statement to Tilly was not against a man taking responsibility. Tilly’s statement was confusing. What does "Parents are parents regardless of gender." have to do with the discussion? To repeat Jowilli was responding to a nonsensical statement made by the half baked Tilly. Can you not see that or do you see what YOU want to see?
It seems obvious to me what "Parents are parents regardless of gender." has to do with the discussion, hence it was the second line of the OP.
A lot of men seem to think they dont have to take care of the children they have fathered ,
and dont have to be a parent,
whereas in reality both parents are jointly reponsible for the upbringing .
hence
"Parents are parents regardless of gender."
I’m sorry to say it’s still nonsensical. 🤷🏼♀️
Why would she add the clause, “regardless of gender."? The discussion was about siring a child. The donor of sperm was 50% responsible so he most definitely owes child support.
" 50% responsible he most definitely owes child support."
well at least thats something we all agree on , once we struggle through the wordings
Once men and women have a child together, they're both parents. If a man sleeps with a women and she's pregnant, it's their responsibility too.
shareoh ok, I agree. men should have a choice in the childs life they created too.
shareIf a man sleeps with a women and she's pregnant, it's their responsibility too.
If she's already pregnant, what's the risk?
First of all the decision isn’t making abortion illegal the decision now just goes to the states. Secondly if a woman wants an abortion all she has to do is travel to California and she can have a partial birth abortion, finally no one is forcing her to have a baby, she made that decision when she chose to have sex
shareAnd no one forced a man to agree to have sex with a women. If they get her pregnant, he's partly responsible for his decision too.
Secondly, victims of rape and sexual assult, especially minors, did NOT have a choice. They were held against their will. Holding them accountable for this type of abuse is inhumane and cruel. Therefore, they shouldn't be forced to keep a baby they can even take care of. Once it's born, it'll be placed in the foster care system
And guess whose tax dollars will be used towards their financial needs...
That is correct the man is also 50 percent responsible, what’s your point?
No one is talking about banning abortion in cases of rape or endangerment to the mother. Also the Supreme Court didn’t ban abortion. Pro life people have a problem with people who act irresponsibly then decide to murder their baby because of their own bad decisions
Foster care sucks , I agree but at least it’s better than being dead.
All the Supreme Court did was recognize that abortion isn’t a constitutionally protected right and it isn’t. They only reversed a bad decision. I sure hope that they aren’t murdered by far left terrorists but the threat is definitely real
"No one is talking about banning abortion in cases of rape or endangerment to the mother."
WRONG
Arkansas governor defends abortion ban that makes no exception for rape or incest
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/arkansas-abortion-ban-hutchinson-roe-v-wade-b2109705.html
I half suspect this is fake news but either way all the woman has to do is just go to another state that will still offer abortion on demand, there are plenty of libtard states that will still offer it. And if you are correct and the people don’t like that law they can always vote him out, it’s how democracy works.
share"I half suspect this is fake news"
Of course this is your answer, it's the go-to for all you repulsive Trumptwats!
It's not, btw, but you probably knew that...
https://www.ualrpublicradio.org/local-regional-news/2022-06-27/arkansas-governor-says-states-abortion-ban-will-save-lives
https://sg.news.yahoo.com/arkansas-gov-sidesteps-making-exceptions-001944015.html
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2022/06/26/roe-v-wade-abortion-decision-protests/
Like I said even if it is true all she has to do is just go to California or New York, they will happily give her an abortion. If the citizens of Arkansas don’t like the law they can always replace the governor with someone who will repeal it, that’s the spirit of democracy.
shareIndeed, but that doesn't change the fact that your statement "No one is talking about banning abortion in cases of rape or endangerment to the mother." is still...
WRONG!
I’m still not convinced it’s not fake news.
And even if that does end up being true she can just go to California to have an abortion.
Adandoning !?
Children should be arrested for being a pain in the arse !
What's a woman?
shareForced??? Liberals are so hysterical.
shareSo would a woman rather have a man incarcerated for 5 years not earning anything to support the child, or have them free and "arrest men's wallets" for 18 years?
I'm guessing the latter.
I do see your logic, if life begins at conception, when does "abandonment" happen?
Life begins at birth according to the Jewish religion.
Realistically, taxpayers are going to support the children. Medicaid, WIC, rent and expenses for 18+ years.
And why the fuck would the Jewish religion be any kind of authority here?
And yes being in foster care sucks but at least they aren’t dead.
Why wouldn't it. Jesus was Jewish.
shareLOL you believe in magic Jesus. You are so pathetic. Do you also believe in the Easter Bunny?
shareThe Supreme Court zealots believe in Jesus and magical beings in the sky. That's the problem.
shareAs do you you freak.
shareYou're the one supporting the decision of Supreme Court religious zealots which makes you a nutcase.
shareAbortion being a states right because that’s what the constitution says makes me a zealot? While in the meantime you are fighting to murder babies? What kind of backwards ass fuck logic is that?
sharethey arnt babnies , they arnt people , a little bit of meat forming inside a belly is not self aware , not going to regret not living .
Whether they are or aren’t going to regret not living isn’t up to you.
And hell for the first 2 years of your life or so you don’t know what the hell is going on so I guess by your standard it’s ok to abort those children.
Imagine the law now granting 90% of custody cases to fathers.
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