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National Review: No doubt Trump committed an impeachable offense


He urged a crowd to march on the U.S. Capitol and pressure his vice president and Congress to abuse their authority and overturn the results of a free and fair election that he happened to lose.

When the rabble forced its way into the U.S. Capitol and disrupted the counting of electoral votes, the president couldn’t bring himself to forthrightly tell the rioters to stop. He didn’t release a video telling them to go home until hours later and didn’t condemn the violence until the next day, reportedly only under pressure from his aides.

Last Wednesday came in the context of the president’s lobbying to get Republican officials in states to throw the election to him (most infamously in his phone call with Georgia secretary of state Brad Raffensperger) and his ceaseless campaign of misinformation meant to delegitimize an American election.

All of this represents a serious offense against Congress in particular and our system of government in general. It is exactly the sort of gross misconduct that the impeachment clause was written to address, and it is understandable that the House is prepared to impeach the president for a second time.

And yet there are complicating factors that raise questions about the prudence of this step, most importantly timing.

We are now a week out from Joe Biden’s inauguration. Barring unanimous Senate support for returning to begin an absurdly brief Senate trial, it will be impossible to impeach and remove Trump before he leaves office under his own power. Although there is debate about the question (and it will be heavily contested), a president can be impeached and convicted after he leaves office. But a trial after Trump is ensconced back in Mar-a-Lago might strike the public as odd, especially if the Democrats wait weeks or months to start one in order to avoid having it overwhelm the beginning of the Biden administration.

House speaker Nancy Pelosi is nonetheless proceeding with an immediate vote to impeach today. This might make sense if Trump’s term could plausibly be ended early. Since it can’t, Pelosi is short-circuiting every established procedure around impeachment — fact-finding, hearings, a report — for no good reason. She’s also advancing a flawed article that will provide Trump’s defenders with easy rejoinders. The use of the word “incitement” invites legalistic objections, and it’s not necessary to make the debatable claim that Trump encouraged and foresaw the lawlessness to capture what was so wrong about what he did.

Still, this impeachment is different from the first time around. Some Republicans in the House, most notably the No. 3 Republican, the impressive Liz Cheney, are supporting it. According to press reports, Mitch McConnell is pleased at the prospect of impeachment. If he were to come out in favor of conviction, it’d be a seismic event that would potentially bring a Senate conviction within reach.

But it remains more likely that the Senate won’t convict. This means that Trump would not be disqualified from holding federal office again, one of the main rationales for pursuing a post-presidency impeachment, and he would be able to claim victory after another Senate trial ending in acquittal.

Impeachment with a Senate acquittal is a kind of censure, raising the question of why Congress doesn’t pursue a vote of censure directly. It’d be a way for Congress to act while avoiding the pitfalls of the current course. It could happen quickly. It wouldn’t involve ignoring or twisting well-established processes or creating bad precedents. It could well get significant bipartisan support. And it would avoid the political downsides of a post-presidency trial, including potentially giving Trump a political shot-in-the-arm when he’s exiting the stage anyway and his standing is at a low ebb.

People of good will can disagree about the best response to the last two months and especially last week, but about one thing there can be no question — it’s the recklessness and selfishness of one man that brought us to this place.

For that, there must be a consequence, and it should come from the nation’s legislature.

https://www.nationalreview.com/2021/01/an-impeachable-offense/

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I'm still waiting to see any evidence of incitement.

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Aside from lying his ass off about the election for weeks now which made his voters froth at the mouth in rage at Biden and the Democrats or any Republicans that sided with them; then giving a speech telling them to 'fight like hell' for their country or they won't have one anymore; and instructing them to march to the Capitol, yeah me neither.

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Yes when he said “be there, it will be wild” I’m sure he meant it will be MILD 🤔

C’mon man, he had been working his support base up since he lost the election. His inference was always that his supporters must support his fight against the result and appearing at the rally and encouraging people to march on the building was the nail in the proverbial coffin.

He did everything to instigate the end result besides having the balls to join the rabble, as he promised he would just moments before.

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All I see is a president who couldn't accept to lose and asked his supporters to contest the result near the capitol to pressure the government. You might disagree with that but there is nothing close to something illegal. You have the right to protest peacefully. Yes the demonstration got out of control like it sometimes happens but Trump is not responsible for that, come on he didn't tell anyone to force their way inside. And people are calling that an "insurrection" !? You had random unarmed people who rushed in with no plan and wandered around. Millions years away from an insurrection to take over control of the country.

What you can see though is politicians capitalizing on the fact the country is now traumatized. On one side, the Democrats who hates Trump are just trying to give him the final blow. I mean, not only the impeachment is groundless imo but the guy is about to quit in one week ... And the republicans who never liked Trump too much now more or less just don't care too much about what can happen to Trump since he's out in a few days.

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Dec. 12: "WE HAVE JUST BEGUN TO FIGHT!!!"

Dec. 26: "The ‘Justice’ Department and the FBI have done nothing about the 2020 Presidential Election Voter Fraud, the biggest SCAM in our nation’s history, despite overwhelming evidence. They should be ashamed. History will remember. Never give up. See everyone in D.C. on January 6th."

Jan. 4: "If the liberal Democrats take the Senate and the White House — and they’re not taking this White House — we’re going to fight like hell, I’ll tell you right now," "We’re going to take it back."

During the riot on Jan. 6: "These are the things and events that happen when a sacred landslide election victory is so unceremoniously & viciously stripped away from great patriots who have been badly & unfairly treated for so long."

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When there are three lies in the first sentence alone, it's safe to skip the rest.

Bottom line: National Review is a collection of gutless pussies. Weak and irrelevant. William F. Buckley is rolling over in his grave.

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Hmm, I would have thought the absolute definition of a gutless pussy is someone who encourages his supporters to march on the building, promises he will march too, then slinks away to safety like a coward and then disowns those supporters when the heat is on him.

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I'm also curious about the allegations of panic buttons being removed, and congressional republicans allowing Trumpers to do reconnaissance on Jan 5th.

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Easy way to tell? Why did they chant HANG MIKE PENCE and have a noose on the edge of Capitol Hill? If you read his tweets, he kept telling Pence to overturn the results else he won't be happy with him. Gee, wonder who fostered that?

https://youtu.be/GuCysTdbn94

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