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Biden/Kamala won, just declare the winner already


What is taking so long? This is unprecedented.

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You think this is long? There's going to be court battles for awhile.

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Only because Trump is a sore loser.

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Even though we were warned it could be like this it's pretty frustrating to go through.

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Trump has done everything he could to undermine democracy. It will be great to see him leave.

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What do you think happens when it goes to the courts? It's going to go to the supreme Court and who do you think they are going to give it to.

I couldn't give a shit either way but I think that is how it's going to end up.

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His case in Georgia already got tossed because it was based on absolutely nothing. The others will probably follow suit. Trump is just intentionally trying to delay this thing.

And if by some miscarriage of justice, the Supreme Court decided to overturn the results and declare for Trump, you'd have well deserved mass riots in every city.

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Shit, we've deserved mass riots for decades. Bring them on.

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We've been having riots in most major cities for the last 3 months. Shit, where you been off playing with your pecker in the dirt?

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No we've had protest for the last few months. The minority party pulling a damned coup and hijacking the govt would result in full on call the national guard level riots.

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We've already had the national guard out. Keep up.

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You're watching way too much Fox TV. That's propaganda.

Here's a live cam of Times Square in New York City. No riots. Not deserted. Enjoy!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJ7ZkQ5TC08

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Hmmm...too bad.

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New York City is returning to life. The dancers are great! Nice to see people having fun.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJ7ZkQ5TC08

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That doesn't look like social distancing to me. Lock 'em down!

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They're wearing mask and outdoors is pretty safe.

Nice to see people enjoying life. the dancers are great! Having fun. No riots. Not deserted like Trump the liar said. Enjoy!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJ7ZkQ5TC08

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Looks like dawn of the dead to me

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Now, they're doing acrobatics. They just did a somersault over a child.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJ7ZkQ5TC08

I can't wait for Biden to defeat covid so I can travel, again!

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Way too many states Trump needs to win. The Supreme Court will only step in if there is a point of law in a particular state and it will decide the election. The 2000 election was a special case, because it alone decided the election and because there was no way the intent of the ballots in question could be definitively determined. Biden really doesn't need Pennsylvania if Georgia and/or Nevada and/or Arizona hold up for him.

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Citizens United didn't cause mass riots. Should have, but not a peep.

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Trump will try a coup in the courts. then, likely try to get a mob.

Americans love democracy. Democrats, anyway.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJ7ZkQ5TC08

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I love the chaos. What does that make me?

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Bored.

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For real. This story is fucking old.

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We haven't had a good France-style General Strike in our history... yet. They'd better not think there aren't moves that we can make... not for one minute

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Not for me. I don't give a shit anymore.

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Trump has a legal path to victory. This isn't over.

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No, he doesn't. Courts won't allow him to cheat.

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The cheater is Biden.

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If this is even remotely true, then thank God Biden was able to do it, too.

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Oooh ! What a stinging remark !
rump loses every popular election he's involved in, cries how unfair it is, while the people of Delaware have trusted Biden for decades. You want to tell the citizens of Delaware they don't know how to run their own state?
rump is an embarrassing buffoon, to the country and to himself, every time he opens his mouth.

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It's not unprecedented at all.

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How is it even close when you have 95 of the media on your side.

You have 95% of silicon valley like twitter and Facebook making all these algorithms.

You have 95% of hollyweirds money and power.

You have large groups like BLM, LGBTQ. antifa.

People want higher taxes
People want higher gas prices
People want liberal border inviting the chance of terror attacks.
Trump had zero , safest and quietest r years.

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Trump had the advantages of incumbency, the Electoral College, and a uniquely stupid electorate (i.e., the American people).

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Will you have to pay the fine for not having insurance if Biden wins and brings that back.
Heath care mandate...under Obama it cost me over a thousand tax time.

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Trump screwing up the economy has cost me thousands.

BTW, starting in 2021, Trump's bait and switch tax plan will raise your taxes if you make less than 75k a year.

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If Biden wins will you have to pay the healthcare mandate fine if you dont have insurance?

That was the best think trump did to save many money.

Under Obama if you didint pay hundreds a month you were fined up to 2000.

I couldn't afford the fine 400 dollar a month insurance.
The fine was cheaper.

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You must live in a red state. The Republican Party sabotaged Obamacare which drove up costs especially in red states. That and gridlock was a McConnell strategy to win House seats instead of representing the best interest of the American people.
Notice how no Republican repeal & replace plan was created! If Trump won, 20 million more would lose health insurance during a pandemic.

Biden has a plan! It will bring down costs thru tax credits and create a public option for those who want to opt in.

Full details:
https://joebiden.com/healthcare/#

Obamacare made many improvements to all health insurance by getting rid of preexisting condition rules, children up to 24 on their parents plan, no lifetime spending limits, expanding network of doctors, etc.

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How much do you pay for health insurance?

I live in ny...property taxes around 20,000

No one around with heath care less then. 400 a month.

All my employees are passing on raises , any more money and they are cut off from Obama care.

They know at that right level you.get your healthcare and tax rebates. .make any more money on the books it's not feasible.

This keeps everyone down at that level.




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You took an ugly tax hit with Trump's SALT deduction limit. No complaints?

Republicans have been whining about ACA for years and have done zip. Where is repeal and replace? All talk, no action.

ACA legislation removed the lifetime cap on my insurance and a coworker was overjoyed she could keep her college-aged children on her health insurance. My relative has much better medical choices and services.

ACA was a joint republican and democrat creation. Blame Gridlock McConnell for sabotaging it as part of his strategy to gain more House seats. Party over country for him.

Since you hate Obamacare, why don't you just get private health insurance? Problem solved.

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I lived on Long Island until very recently. If you are paying 20,000 a year in propety taxes, you live in a very wealthy area, probably make a lot of money, and should not be whining about it.

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Since you are an anonymous poster backing rump, we can all understand it's just another lie tossed out with impunity.
Comes with the territory.

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The "uniquely stupid electorate" that you speak of voted for Biden. How else would this disaster have happened?

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So, it’s safe and quiet now?

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Do the math of terror attacks on u.s. soil under Obama vs trump.

That's not a priority for Democrats, they are willing to gamble with citizens lives in the name of diversity and a history of being soft on criminals. Here comes defund police, defund military, no bail , close prisons.

Its safe because of what trumps retaliation would be and how much he loosened enemy engagement rules.


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Oh wow, when did Obama close the prisons?? I totally missed that.

Actually I must have missed a few of those...

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On 22 January 2009, President Obama issued a request to suspend proceedings at Guantanamo military commission for 120 days and to shut down the detention facility that year.

Guantanamo bay is a prison for terrorist

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Is that when people were yelling about the innocent people in there from the sweeps?

And did Obama keep it closed?

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Innocent terrorists?

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In the wrong place at the wrong time, I would say.

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Trump's 2017 Tax Cuts had a built-in tax increase starting in 2021 for anyone making less than $75K. It will increase each year until 2027 when all taxpayers with incomes of $75,000 and under — that’s about 65 percent of taxpayers — will face a higher tax rate in 2027 than in 2019.

Every other country is moving to electric cars. we need to join them or be left in the dust.

The greatest threat for terrorism is domestic according to the FBI. Trump encouraged and inspired them as per the manifests of several mass killers. Legal immigration actually creates jobs through entrepreneurship and an increased GDP.

Plenty of uneducated cultists who are easily duped in the U.S. explains Trump and Trumpism.

Trump piggybacked on Obama's accomplishments and then ruined everything by playing golf instead of addressing covid. Now, millions of businesses are suffering. 230,000 dead Americans and millions unemployed. A wrecked foreign policy with North Korean nukes, Russia running the planet, farmers lost business with China in Trump's failed trade war, and our reputation and prestige in ruins.

Biden will need to fix the mess that Trump has created. While Trump tries to cheat the election outcome, incoming President Biden is already being briefed on the economy and covid.

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Obama pulled troops from Iraq too rapidly causing the rise of ISIS.

Obama asked Congress for war in Libya. but was denied.

Obama coordinated the lynching of gadaffi and left Libya in anarchy.

He literally funds groups to lynch the Libyan leader and has no plan for.the country after , no one to run things. Just a hit and run job.

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They did NOT win.

A lot of fraudulent votes have been put through in Biden's favor of course.

Everyone knows Trump won and won by leaps and bounds. Open your eyes and ears. I don't care what side you're on. This is criminal. Everyone should want a legal and fair election.
The truth needs to come out.

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What is your evidence? Where are there irregularities?

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"Everyone should want a legal and fair election."

Trump slowed down the mail in order to stop mail-in voting even though that's what he and his family do.

"The truth needs to come out."
then stop listening to Trump who is a pathological liar in the thousands:

"A massive mural featuring 20,000 of Trump's lies has been installed in Soho"
https://www.timeout.com/newyork/news/a-massive-mural-featuring-20-000-of-trumps-lies-has-been-installed-in-soho-102920

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They're all liars. Do you think Biden and Kamala give two shits about you?

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I think you lead a sad life.

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Duh

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Don't forget the statistical impossibilities, proven dead people votes, and democrats trying to block republicans from watching vote counts.

This election is illegitimate, and I now agree with the far-lefties that the US is 3rd world Banana Republic with a shit-ton of polishing.

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What impossibilities? Be specific. Who are the dead people who voted? What is your evidence?

There was a Trump supporter claiming she was denied the right to vote. It turns out she was trying to vote (you guessed it) a second time. The most notorious recent case of ballot-boxing stuff came courtesy of a Republican from South Carolina.

The 2021 GOP Congressional delegation will have more QAnon supporters than African-Americans.

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Don't be a Trumper, this is all out for the public to see.

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Yes, I saw that in Wisconsin specifically. Is that where you meant or are there other places too?
Them not being able to watch is a big red flag! No transparency.

When Trump was on TV earlier tonight, they cut him off on local networks claiming they had to check on what he was saying. How dare they?! They're COVERING! They don't want the public to know. Then ABC had a one hour special on trying to convince people there's no evidence of Trump's claims! BS! Funny though, no talk of "Russian interference!" But if Trump wins, they'll then claim there was.
They're so dirty and pure evil.

Third world, yes. We're on our way! 😣

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Isn't it pretty to think so?

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But, but... now you know exactly how the Left feels.

Empathy is good - it shows sympathy and compassion.

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I'm not entirely sure about this, but I think it always takes this long to count all the votes to get the final count. Most elections aren't this close so we get the answers well before the final count. We have to wait because it's close.

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We were all wrong. Trump just came out and graciously conceded. Ah shucks Donald!

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It's rediculous. They had no problem announcing Trump as the winner in 2016 on election night.

I'm starting to get the feeling that these delays are purposely being done by Trump supporters who are sore losers.

Fact of the matter is, Trump is LOSING! He has to be a man and lose gracefully and obey authority. PERIOD!! If Biden wins, he wins! That's it.

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The word is spelled RIDICULOUS! LOL Well, it's obvious you are a Biden supporter. Can't even spell!

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Please explain to me what that has to do with this topic! That's right! It DOESN'T!!! Lol losers always say irrelevant stuff when they've been defeated.

But since I'm a bigger and better person than you, I won't gloat and rub it in your face. Like Mr. Joe Biden, I'm mature enough to treat others decently and refrain childish bickering. You being defeated is punishment enough. Lol

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Yeah, you are BIGGER, BETTER and MATURE! LOLOLOL

YOU treat others decently and refrain from childish bickering?????????????????????? THIS from a clown who has called me "pissface" and "cocainehead"? HAHAHA You are truly the biggest hypocritical asswipe who ever roamed the planet!!
But you ARE just a dope who can't spell!

"refrain childish bickering",...uh, no , it's "refrain FROM childish bickering"! Even when you win, you can't take a moment to use proper grammar and stop acting like the uneducated moron that you are !

Even when leftards like you win you cannot stop being angry and bitchy and childish! Truth be told, I like Biden waaaay more than I like you. He is waaay classier and I wonder if he realizes that he has a-holes like you as his supporters!

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Lol like YOU are any better. You respond with the dumbest and immature posts I've ever seen from any user.

You and Trump have the same level of immaturity. I personally know a small number of nice people who supportered Trump in 2016, and they are far better people than you.

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Oh Matilda... sigh....you are just what the Democrats LOVE...an easily duped nitwit who stays on the reservation so they can dole out a few pennies to you and you are so grateful that you kiss their a$$es and vote for them.
You are not even aware that you are being used. As Stalin said, he really appreciated those "useful idiots" who supported him and Communism!


Dumb and immature, two words that describe you best. Now go back to your coloring book and crayons! Dumpkof!

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You are projecting.

Progressives aren't being duped by the democratic party to believe Biden won.
Moderate democrats aren't being duped by the democratic party to believe Biden won.
Centrists aren't being duped by the democratic party to believe Biden won.
Independents aren't being duped by the democratic party to believe Biden won.
Moderate republicans aren't being duped by the democratic party to believe Biden won.

Trumpers are being duped by Roger Stone to believe Biden lost.

Stone knows exactly how the Trumper mind works, going back to birtherism. Trump's not trying to win in the courts. He's holding off on conceding because he's got more money to make from you clowns. His "defense" fund only pretends to go to fraud, and actually goes into his personal slush fund. He has to legally put that in the fine print. Trumpers are just too brainwashed by Roger Stone's "stop the steal" to care enough to read that far. And Stone didn't even create it for this election. He created it in 2016 to combat Hillary's hypothetical win which never happened. Now he's dusting it off, and right like rain, here come the idiot Trumpers to buy whatever Roger Stone sells them.

All of you are damn fools.

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