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How is Islam growing so rapidly?


Islam is a very archaic religion that unlike Christianity has never really gone through a period of reformation in order to deradicalize it and bring it more in line with modern sensibilities yet in spite of this Islam is growing rapidly and taking over western countries which are guided by principles that are diametrically opposed to it.

Why is that? How come Christianity is declining so fast while Islam is thriving?

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A lot of people have been brainwashed to accept it under the lie of Diversity and Multi-culturalism.

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Which is strange because Islam is antithetical to diversity and multiculturalism.

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It's part of the Anti-White or White Guilt platform of the radical left in America.

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The radical left is in for a rude awakening once Islam gains power

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There is nowhere where Islam is close to taking power. Most of the outrageous stories you hear are right-wing scare tactics to turn people against government, social society and immigration. I don't like Islam either, and i am for reducing and managing immigration ... and I am a Lefty, but what the Right claims to want and be for is never what they say, they are manipulating people to take even more power and control of the US ... the Right poses thousands of times more of threat to this country than Isalm

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True. But these people being brainwashed are left wingers, and they’re the most ignorant in society. Hence why they’re leftwing Democrats.

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They seem to reproduce more than people of other religions. Especially in the West where they tend to exploit social security and welfare.

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Yes and this is one of the reasons why it is set to overtake Europe in some decades. Europeans are not having children at a good rate.

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That can only happen when the right-wing which wants to shut-down social programs and democracy so it can be as totalitarian as Islam lets it.

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It’s not overtaking Europe because they’re inspiring people to join. It’s overtaking because of open borders and everyone leaving the Middle East. The same open border policies the Democrat party stands for in the United States.

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Yes the leaders in Europe are practically handing Islam their countries with their open borders policies and with how much they protect and defend Islam.

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Christianity has been on the decline ever since the US was created. The pilgrims left for a country with separation of church and state, and the US became a world power. The US influenced all other first worlds to follow suit and peel back the layers of the Christian domain.

Science, education and capitalism has proven to be the superior tool for maintaining power.

Islam however is thriving where government and mosques are joined at the hip. Combined with an extreme lack of education, people remain tied to their unfalsifiable beliefs.

Islam never truly gets going in first world countries. Education and separation of church and state present the exact same problems for it.

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Thing is many countries in Europe seem to protect Islam and with immigration it is gaining a foothold in these 1st world countries.

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In 2016, republicans swore up and down that the refugees from Syria were going to institute Sharia Law in Europe. Four years later and they are nowhere closer. We don't even hear the Sharia Law talking point from repubs much any more. Now it's "protect" as if Christianity isn't getting the same protection in Europe. Heh.

Islam is not thriving in Europe. Again, your fears are not my problem. Unless you think thrive means something else than what it means.

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Muslims are projected to become the majority in Europe in a couple of dacades if only by virtue of how fast they tend to reproduce.

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Based on whose projections? Show me.

Here's one from the top of google results.

Finally, a “high” migration scenario projects the record flow of refugees into Europe between 2014 and 2016 to continue indefinitely into the future with the same religious composition (i.e., mostly made up of Muslims) in addition to the typical annual flow of regular migrants. In this scenario, Muslims could make up 14% of Europe’s population by 2050 – nearly triple the current share, but still considerably smaller than the populations of both Christians and people with no religion in Europe.

https://www.pewforum.org/2017/11/29/europes-growing-muslim-population/

They give three scenarios. That's the high scenario of 14% by 2050. The medium scenario is 11.2%, and the low migration scenario is 7.4%.

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Also freedom. There is so much freedom in the West, you would have a hard time trying to stop people doing what they want in the West. Of course Islam is more about male freedom than female freedom but even so, good luck trying to stop them.

I predict in the next few decades in the West at least that being Muslim is like being Christian for a lot of people ie you call yourself Christian but don't follow any of the rules or celebrations.

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"I predict in the next few decades in the West at least that being Muslim is like being Christian for a lot of people ie you call yourself Christian but don't follow any of the rules or celebrations."

I could definitely see that. There's just not enough infrastructure in the west to keep it fundamentalist.

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I don't think that will be the case. Islam is fundamentally different from Christianity in its tolerance for failing to follow the rules. The theology is different at the core. Half my family are muslim. They are very nice, but it's a very different religion from any Christian denomination.

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It's not the religion itself though. It's the oil wells.

Despite its long history with Islam, Saudi Arabia was very secular in the early half of the 20th century. Then came the need for oil.

In Iran in the 1950s, women were wearing western clothes and driving cars. The US and the Brits were the ones responsible for Iran's turn to fundamentalism. We kicked out Iran's democratically-elected Prime Minster because he wouldn't sell us the oil. And we replaced him with the more religious Shah. The country became more theocratic under the puppet. The Ayatollah used the theocracy to turn against the puppet and the puppeteers.

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Yes, even Afghanistan was much different in the 50's. A lot of young Iranians don't understand why their revolution had to be about Islam. America seems to be great at creating it's future enemies.

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Islam is a low-tech form of totalitarianism based on terror that is very stable and has been evolved over hundreds of years.

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Actually I think the main issue with Islam is that it has NOT evolved (unlike Christianity).

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The funniest aspect of Islam is most converts occur in prison....lol.

And usually only one culture falls for it.

Islam is know for over taking large civilizations without armies.
They play the slow take over game.

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Yes, they outbreed the people in the countries they move into. This is what is projected to happen to Europe in a few decades. It is expected to become majority Muslim.

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A bunch is conversion from christian past. People believing the hype os Islam being more vocal in getting the people more power in the world.

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Islam works like a cult. There is greater control and social pressures to adhere to their rules.
Control means less people leaving.

You will be ostracised from your family for leaving, even killed for leaving Islam.

Add to this higher birth rates and it's a perfect storm.

Australia is facing some serious islamic growth and it's scary.

When you see a family of muslims and the women have the headscarf and the men the long beards they look foreign, but they have Australian accents so I think 'why do they want to look so different?'

I feel like they're becoming more extreme.

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"Add to this higher birth rates and it's a perfect storm."

Exactly, this is why Muslims are projected to become the majority in Europe in a few decades. You also add to it how Islam resists and even rejects modernization and it is truly a perfect storm that I really don't think modern western countries are prepared to deal with.

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