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Other minorities who move to the USA succeed, why can't black people do the same?

posted 4 years ago by [deleted]
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You see asians and latinos moving to the USA and forming homes, working, succeeding and being good citizens of the country and their communities (specially the latinos) are thriving and growing. So why can't blacks be and do the same? You don't see asians and latinos complaining about white supremacy or blaming the system all the time so what gives? I really think that the core issue with blacks as Denzel Washington has pointed out several times starts at the home with the lack of proper parenting and black children not having a father figure in it a lot of the time. Blacks are also constantly fighting among themselves and this is likely a product of the aforementioned issue. Until that is fixed things won't get better for them.

[–] kukuxu (5409) 4 years ago

Why do you think black are not succeeding?

In Africa, they've succeeded to kick whites off. A century ago, South Africa was a white country, blacks were a minority. Right now whites are a tiny minority and blacks both are the majority and have the power.

In US, blacks are expanding. They're replacing whites in areas that until a few decades were white. Their number is increasing quickly, and they're occupying more and more areas.

If you ask a biologist, the species that succeeds is the one that reproduces, spreads and replaces other species. The same can be applied to races. Whites are dramatically failing during the last decades. Blacks, on the contrary, they're succeeding.

[–] Keelai (31793) 4 years ago

"A century ago, South Africa was a white country, blacks were a minority"

Which hallucinogenic are you on?

[–] zaq123 (2389) 4 years ago

If you find a black who is highly successful odds are he or she is either an immigrant or a first-generation American.

But I really doubt that life is as bleak for most blacks as the woke media want us to believe.

[–] kukuxu (5409) 4 years ago

Check numbers. When South Africa was built, blacks were thrown away. Most blacks immigrated during XXth century, looking for a job.

[–] zaq123 (2389) 4 years ago

So you are saying that most of the brothas and sistas aren't descended from slaves? You really believe that?

[–] Keelai (31793) 4 years ago

The OP is demonstrating that racism still exists.

[–] zaq123 (2389) 4 years ago

Racism will always exist. Do you think the death penalty should be used to fight it?

[–] Keelai (31793) 4 years ago

Another poster questioned why immigrants do better than American-born citizens. Instead of rehashing, here's the link:
https://moviechat.org/general/General-Discussion/5efd910b4a259e5e5220ba4a/Are-poor-Americans-really-just-incompetent-idiots?reply=5efe157ff078d42c80b1140c

[–] [deleted] 4 years ago

Can he make it more obvious ?

[–] Keelai (31793) 4 years ago

No. His ignorance is amazing.

He's stereotyping. The majority of blacks are working and middle-class.

[–] TalkinPikchorBox (2249) 4 years ago

Latinos fill up a majority of state prisons. Have you been to east los angeles or any southern city? Asians do a lot of crimes too. It’s just that we are smarter than the rest of you all so we hardly get caught.

A better example would've been middle eastern people or Indians. They come to america with just the clothes on their back and some how open businesses like theres no tomorrow

[–] StannisTheMannis (132) 4 years ago

yes because they have 7-8 people living in one house and sell land from back home to make the initial payments. They then pay off these businesses using all sorts of fraudulent schemes from embezzlement to illegal suites with price gouging rents. You'll never find a truly self made indian that hasn't had monetary help from his family members or engaged in some sort of shady dealings or scams to get money

[–] TalkinPikchorBox (2249) 4 years ago

that's ridiculous. so many doctors are indian.

[–] [deleted] 4 years ago

So many doctors are African American, too.

[–] TalkinPikchorBox (2249) 4 years ago

Your point?

[–] [deleted] 4 years ago

That so many doctors are African American, too.

(I thought that was pretty clear).

[–] TalkinPikchorBox (2249) 4 years ago

You make democrats look stupid. Zebras are striped donkeys. Prove me wrong.

[–] StannisTheMannis (132) 4 years ago

Indians in general are all betas and have weak personalities. They'll kiss anyones ass if it means being left alone. Blacks atleast are far more likely to fight back, which is why white people are always threatened by them. I remember back when I was younger and I was just chubby, agreeable kid who always smiled at white people. They would give these phony smiles and pretend to be friendly, but it was obviously a front. Not a day would go by when there wasn't some sort of incident at work with a white person trying to bully me. Starting in my mid-20s, I began to weight train and got bigger and stronger, changed my look overall, and things began to change. Whites stopped giving me phony smiles and started looking at me more suspiciously, but never showed any outward hostility or made patronizing comments. They also stopped saying hello to me. Racist white people are always threatened by anyone thats doing well for themselves and doesn't kiss their ass. They care far less if a minority person fits a stereotype for being financially well off (ie. indian doctors) and become more fearful if that person is more stronger, confident, assertive and physically superior to them, which Indians aren't necessarily known for.

[–] TalkinPikchorBox (2249) 4 years ago

Great food though?

[–] Keelai (31793) 4 years ago

"They come to america with just the clothes on their back"

Nonsense! Most Indian immigrants are middle-class and educated which is why they are doctors. 78% have a Bachelors degree or higher.

Trumpists hate immigrants.

[–] StannisTheMannis (132) 4 years ago

Trumpists hate immigrants because they never assimilate and do nothing but stick with their own and force their cultural ways on others everywhere they go. Also, getting a degree is easy when you come from families that don't make an effort to mingle with the greater community, develop interesting hobbies or skills, or just sit around studying all the time while your social skills deteriorate. I've known a few educated Indians and most are boring and can hardly hold a non-work related conversation. They also tend to be very rude compared to those that are educated here. Must be why they get so many complaints from non-indian patients. The ones born and educated here are fine though

[–] Keelai (31793) 4 years ago

More stereotyping. Do you honestly know any immigrants? I know plenty and they're very friendly. Perhaps they just don't like you.

Trump married two immigrants. His brothel-owner, draft-dodger grandfather who was deported from Prussia was an immigrant, too.

Trumpists hate immigrants because they prefer to blame someone else for their pathetic lives rather than get a degree and find a good-paying job. Hillary told unemployed factory workers they would be retrained for new jobs and they had a hissy fit. They're still waiting for those high-paying factory jobs from Trump.

"just sit around studying all the time while your social skills deteriorate."

In your world, studying is a bad thing?

[–] StannisTheMannis (132) 4 years ago

Haha I hate immigrant trash anyways so I couldn't care less. And studying is a bad thing when its at the expense of building connections with people outside your community or being good at other things. I knew a guy that was all-state wrestling champ and went on to do a degree and now works for a great company. Ever see an immigrant like that? No you haven't, because most of these little fobs are losers who sat around studying in their home countries and then come here and expect to be treated like kings/queens for having degrees even though they can hardly speak English. You sound like a libtard so of course you'll overlook the obvious ass-kissing and over-eagerness of immigrants to be liked by white people. They're rude to anyone if they can get away with it. If you were to go to India, I can almost guarantee they would treat you like crap since there is no social penalty for doing so, compared to acting like that in Western countries where they're more likely to face backlash and are primed to be more agreeable with whites who are the majority . Trumpists hate immigrants because they bring their third world mentality everywhere they go and stir up problems with others once they begin to outnumber them. Trumpists are the true Americans and want people to speak the native language and not turn every place into little India, china, and Saudi Arabia. Nothing racist about that.

[–] TalkinPikchorBox (2249) 4 years ago

Do you think I hate immigrants?

[–] [deleted] 4 years ago

You're Asian ?

[–] TalkinPikchorBox (2249) 4 years ago

Yes but my eyes aren’t slanted but my dick is small.

[–] [deleted] 4 years ago

Post pictures !

[–] trevorh321 (5495) 4 years ago

Proper parenting is the biggest reason.

[–] CarterBlunt (1030) 4 years ago

Look at black immigrants compared to descendants of slaves. They are successful. Immigrants arrive with money already, and are vetted so that the government are pretty damn sure they are gonna be successful with money. Compare that to descendants of slaves with virtually no upward mobility.

It's like asking Bubba in the trailer park why he's not successful like the Asians. He will tell you it's all other peoples' fault. Blame Mexicans! Blame blacks! Blame atheism! Anything but the actual culprit, rich people. Until that is fixed, things won't get better for them.

[–] TimMC (9143) 4 years ago

Some black people do succeed some don't Perhaps some statistics would bolster your claim.

[–] brux (14666) 4 years ago

You are an ass for trolling these racists comments.

There are reasons, and many thousands of people who studies sociology, political, science, psychology and lot of other data on this, but we are supposed to take your trolling as serious.

When you quote celebrities or rich people they, especially the black ones are psychologically primed to fall in line with the establishment point of view - because who do they deal with in their day to day lives to stay in their careers?

If you took the time to study this subject ... but then we all know you are like your idol Trump, you don't read your briefings and you don't care about facts or listen to experts.