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Do black people commit more crime?


I've seen this statistic that black people comprise 13% of the population and commit 50% of violent crimes in the US. Is this true and why is this the case?

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Because white people give them weapons and money to buy cars to go out and do crime. It would be hard to rob someone if all you had was a rock or sharp stick and on foot.

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@elcamino. Suuure, it's all whiteys fault. How original. By the way: where are these stands where white folks are handing out free guns to blacks?

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Free guns when whites go off to work leaving their guns at home for others to come in and take.

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No it's not true. The crime is actually carried out by white people who are made up to look like black people. Because the white man is the devil !

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Exactly. Example number one: Jimmy Kimmel as the GREAT Karl Malone.

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There's three possible causes: economical, cultural or genetics.

'Economical' is the usual explanation in modern left. It fails, though. If that was the cause, then you could compare whites and blacks with a similar economical status, and crime index should be similar. However, it keeps being higher among blacks.

What remains is 'cultural' or 'genetics'. Which one is the main cause? Nobody knows. Right now, this topic is taboo. Investigating it is taboo. Research is taboo.

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Have you ever seen YouTube videos of what happens when a large group of blacks gather at a fast food restaurant and there's a disagreement? There's no doubt in my mind they are more prone to being loud obnoxious and violent.

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Descendants of slaves have a higher than normal testosterone. They were selectively bred to be strong. We know that testosterone affects aggression. They are also the least funded in education, and the most poorly trained by authorities. Blame. White. People.

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Descendants of slaves have a higher than normal testosterone. They were selectively bred to be strong. We know that testosterone affects aggression.

That's actually a very interesting theory. Do you have some confirmation about testosterone level in Africa? I haven't been able to find anything in google.

They are also the least funded in education, and the most poorly trained by authorities.

I don't agree with that. "Problematic" areas use to be the highest funded in education. The reason is simple: non-problematic students are cheap. They just require a few books, a desk, a blackboard and a teacher. And the less problematic, the more students you can put in the same class without problems.

In US, for example, Detroit is one of the cities with the highest funding per student in the country, and it's a 90% black city.

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https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/detroit-city/2019/04/29/detroit-schools-face-tough-choices-too-many-repairs-not-enough-money/3232674002/

I don't know of any scholarly studies that show a difference between different African countries, but you can kind of see it with your eyes looking at an Ethiopian. I just saw studies that showed "African Americans" having higher testosterone than other races, and extrapolated the rest from experience.

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Here you have the budget per student in US

https://ballotpedia.org/Analysis_of_spending_in_America%27s_largest_school_districts

Detroit is 18,000$, the number ranging from 5,000$ to 30,000$, with the median being about 10,000$.
Detroit is in the top 10% with higher budget.

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Sometimes it's a matter of proper management. You check this picture from the article you linked, for example.
https://www.gannett-cdn.com/presto/2019/04/29/PDTN/c5636896-731a-4c40-a752-83fb2abaccae-DetroitSchoolsTouchChoices_DISPLAYONLY.jpg

The problem with the bath is lack of cleaning. You can have a bath 50 years old looking much better, old and not looking like shit. And the fake ceiling is just lazyness. Even if you don't have money to replace the fake ceiling, you can just take it out and paint the ceiling, which is extremely cheap. It doesn't look as well as a new one, but it looks infinitely better than the fake ceiling in the picture.

Europe after WW2 was extremely poor. You can be sure that schools looked old and poor, but they didn't look like shit. When the only way to solve things is to throw money into a bottomless pit, that's a clue that there's a problem with is not the lack of money.

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Oh, so they just need to hire a janitor. Thanks for telling me. I'll rest easy now knowing these kids are getting the highest quality education in the country. Fucking troll.

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I didn't say they got the highest quality education. Obviously, they're not. What I'm saying it's not a money problem, since:

1. Detroit has one of the highest budget per student in the country
2. Issues like the ones in the pictures (a very dirty bath and an old fake ceiling) are not caused by money, since they're actually quite cheap to fix.

So, the question is, if money isn't the problem, what's the problem then?

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Evolutionary theories on sexual selection in warm climates explains the higher incidence in aggression and impulsiveness, no need for the slavery hypothesis.


Paternal investment theory suggests that in cold climates males were selected for provisioning, rather than for mating success. In warm climates, where female gathering made male provisioning unessential, selection was for mating success. Male hunted meat was essential for female winter survival. Genes that encouraged mating success were selected for in warm climates. Negroids (blacks) evolved in warm climates, while Caucasians (whites) and Mongoloids (Asians) evolved in colder climates. Mating is assisted by a strong sex drive, aggression, dominance, sociability, extraversion, impulsiveness, sensation seeking, and high testosterone. Provisioning is assisted by anxiety, altruism, empathy, behavioral restraint, gratification delay, and a long life span. Explanations are offered for racial differences in many personality characteristics, hormone levels, monamine oxidase levels, testosterone levels, lactase dehydrogenase metabolic paths, life spans, prostate cancer rates, hypertension, genital (penis and testes) size, vocal frequencies, liver size, muscle structure, mesomorphy, bone density, sports performance, crime rates, rape, child abuse, earnings, age at first sexual activity, AIDs, illegitimacy, divorce, marriage, and polygyny rates. Eye color correlations are discussed. Negro family structure in the Caribbean and the U.S. may reflect selection in Africa during hunter-gather times. Comparison is made with differential K theory and father absence theories.


As for poor schools, voucher lottery studies have shown that Blacks that get vouchers don't do any better than those that apply and don't. So it's not the school, it's the student.

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When you don't take the time to invest in a community, things generally turn to crap and become ghetto'd where crime becomes abundant. Then you get over-policing poor areas where crime mostly happens and you'll see a rise in criminals getting caught. Strange though whites have poor communities too yet you don't get as much crime from there as you would in a poor black community. Maybe it's because they solve their issues with opioids hence so many overdoses while the other solve it more in crime instead. Culture also plays a role as well with all that rap/hip hop promoting if not influence some sort of violent acts. Why you see many of the gangs have them blasting away on it.

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Yep, I think culture is the main culprit. Black americans don't seem to value education as much as other races.

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Why would they value abysmal education? Give them good education and maybe they will value it.

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When you don't take the time to invest in a community, things generally turn to crap and become ghetto'd where crime becomes abundant.

That's bullshit. Blacks (and other minorities) have had more investment than any white community. In many western countries, there wasn't public education until some decades ago. My grandparents didn't have public education. My mother had to work when she was a child to support my family, that was very poor.

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Whites do as much crime only they don't go to jail. They go to congress.

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If blacks hold the title for robbing and stealing. Whites hold the title for molesting and pedophilia.

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You missed out murdering (for blacks).

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Thats every race. Isis, cartel, mafia, mob, taliban, american gangs, and any war ever.

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Eh? We're talking about civilians. Black civilians commit murders at a much higher rate.

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You need to get out more. Have you been to South America? They make black on black crime look like child's play.

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Not relevant to black crime rate in 1st world countries. Where do you live? I'm guessing not South America.

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just say you hate blacks and ill let you win.

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Lmao given up already. Thought you'd put up a better fight than that.

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Had to cook the meat for the party. Not really party (covid) but we eat likke fat fucks.

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And the u.s. has opened their borders to these places.

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If blacks hold the title for robbing and stealing. Whites hold the title for molesting and pedophilia.

NO. The percentage of pedophiles is proportional to population, here there's barely a difference.

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Yes yes I get it. You love the almighty whitey nation and you’ll be in denial no matter the cost. It’s fact! Whites are known for serial killing, molesting children (Jeffrey Epstein being the latest), and fucking women with their shirts and sox on. Fact!

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You love the almighty whitey nation and you’ll be in denial no matter the cost.

It's not easy to get data about this from US, but here you have some data:
http://www.yellodyno.com/html/child_molester_stats.html

"While nearly 70% of those serving time for violent crimes against children were white, whites accounted for 40% of those imprisoned for violent crimes against adults.
-BJS Survey of State Prison Inmates, 1991.
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The percetange of whites in prison serving for crimes against children was similar (and I'd say lower) to the percentage in population by race.

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In UK, well, I must say was wrong and it's not proportional to race. In UK, blacks are actually the ones that spike in child molesting way beyond its population percentage.

https://fullfact.org/crime/what-do-we-know-about-ethnicity-people-involved-sexual-offences-against-children/

"In the overall population of England and Wales 86% of people were white in 2011 (at the last census), 8% of the population was of Asian ethnicity, and 3% was black. [...] Where offenders’ ethnicity was known, 81% of people convicted of sexual offences [against children] in 2014 were white, 7% were black and 9% were Asian in 2014. These proportions were similar over the previous four years."

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I won’t read that shit. Who’s facts are those? You know how many whites don’t get caught or reported for diddling little kids. Shit serial killers don’t get caught for decades sometimes. Those statistics are full of shit since they aren’t in real time. Search your past memories and try and remember the time when your mom told you never to be alone with your uncle John.

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It seems that you love the almighty niggey nation and you’ll be in denial no matter the cost 😄

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I’m not black.

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Oh and denial about what? Black on black crime is real! Either way my race is better than all of yours.

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He's talking nonsense about UK, I live here and majority of pedophiles are white from any perspective.

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Statistics say otherwise.

What you mean by "I live here and majority of pedophiles are white from any perspective" is really "pedophiles that appear in mainstream media are always white" (unless you are in a pedophile multicultural circle, your opinion is formed by what you see in the media).

And that's surely true, the big majority of pedophiles in mainstream media are surely white. Your mistake is to believe that what media cherry picks is a fair representation of reality.

Well, in a second thought... probably it's not a mistake, it's actually what you want to believe.

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Dude, I am the OP of this thread which is criticizing blacks. Clearly i'm not biased since I have criticized both white and blacks. We've had this conversation already on another board. Majority of pedophiles cases in the UK are white males, from any perspective.

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https://nypost.com/2022/05/04/howard-stern-hollywood-f-ked-up-for-dave-chappelle-vs-will-smith/

He gave a Stern lecture.

Radio icon Howard Stern is tearing into Tinseltown, claiming they’re treating Oscar slapper Will Smith differently compared to Dave Chappelle’s attacker.

The 68-year-old shock jock criticized the supposed showbiz double standard during a Wednesday episode of “The Howard Stern Show.”

“This guy jumped up on stage and attacked Dave Chappelle,” Stern fumed into the mic, Mediaite reported. “As soon as that happened, did they let him go back to his seat and laugh and sit next to his wife and then give them an award? No! They took him backstage, they broke his arms and hands so bad.”

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Michael Jackson and R Kelly disagree with you.

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Whether it is true or not the most death, damage and thievery is done at the top.

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Not a reason to excuse black americans of any accountability.

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So by what reasoning do we excuse the death, damage and thievery is done at the top then?

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When we talk about crime at the top, we can talk about crime at the top. The subject of this thread is the black crime rate in the US. There's no point constantly trying to deflect attention away from it. Clearly something needs to be improved in the black community as they are the bottom of the hierarchy in every meaningful way. Even Asians who have been in the US for less time and are a much smaller minority have established themselves beyond the black community.

The culture of black people needs to change, and on the government side the welfare system needs to change as it encourages single parent families, a massive issue in the black community.

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> There's no point constantly trying to deflect attention away from it.

First of all, that is not what is being done, the point is that when you talk crime you have to have some kind of objectivity and perspective.

How much money do we spend to fight crime in the streets which does little damage and is directly a function of what happens higher up.

It is not your call to make opinion statements as fact. It is significant that you see it as important to your argument to shut out other facts - that smacks of dishonesty.

Everybody'd culture needs to change. I would most likely be very correct when I accuse you of not knowing anything about black culture ( not that I do, but I know a bit ) and its demise. It was a result of hostility and government policies that broke up the black family.

Read about what happened in Tulsa. Whenever blacks anywhere build something good whites would come in and try to destroy it. They built places for blacks to live, and then would police for crime, drugs, prostitution, everywhere but in the black places where they wanted it to settle. It's clear you know nothing but your very strong uninformed bias, which can be accurately called racism.

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It was a result of hostility and government policies that broke up the black family.


Yep, like I thought, it's always someone else's fault. It's someone else's fault that blacks are killing each other in record numbers.

You can't have a conversation if there's always deflection. If there's never any accountability then nothing will improve for blacks. This recent bout of riots and looting isn't going to help either, it's just going to impoverish black areas even further.

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You are doing just what the strategy to bad jacket Israel is ... focus only on Israel and never the context of the issue or the system as a whole. Your purpose was not to ask the question as you misleadingly do in your original post, but to attack black people. It is thinly veiled racism.

By the way, not all blacks are rioting which is the image you want to project - by far.

Not worth it to discuss something with someone who is allergic to facts.

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Ah so you support Israel as well? Says it all really...

By the way, not all blacks are rioting


Never said they were.

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You are just a toxic barrel of negativity aren't you?
I support justice.
In the case of Israel the story is not just about what Israel does, it should encompass the whole history of the region and what is going on on the other side as well. The only reason the world can talk about Israel is that it is an open and free society, even for the Arabs that live there. Never hear anything about Palestine because they are closed and secret.

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You are just a toxic barrel of negativity aren't you?


Says the one who supports Israel and tries to condone record numbers of black on black homicides.

The only reason the world can talk about Israel is that it is an open and free society, even for the Arabs that live there.


Pull the other one dude, this isn't The Jerusalem Post. But anyway, this isn't the subject of the thread. Create your own thread if you want to talk about the terrorist nation of Israel.

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Run away if you cannot support your own racist rant why don't you?

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Run away if you cannot support your own racist rant why don't you?


Says the one who tried to deflect the focus of the thread with his very first response? In case you don't remember -

Whether it is true or not the most death, damage and thievery is done at the top.


And now you're harping on about Israel. If you want to talk about Israel, create your own thread, and if you're lucky I might respond.

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You'd be lucky if you actually had anything useful to say.

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> Says the one who supports Israel

I just go through saying what I support, you only make such a false claim because you now your statements are such negative nonsense you cannot defend them and have to lower yourself to such deliberate misstatements.

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>> Even Asians who have been in the US for less time and are a much smaller minority have established themselves beyond the black community.

Asians do not have close to the same history that blacks do.

Many Asians also have connections to the country of birth or nationality.

Most of the Asian coming here today are from money and are wired right into jobs black people cannot get. Asians are predatory to the American economy - a lot of them are at this time.

But previously Asians were just as badly treated as blacks, and even worse.

If you are trying to say that groups should be studied to see what works and what doesn't, that makes sense, but there is a whole array of factors set against black people.

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Whether it is true or not the most death, damage and thievery is done at the top.

Blacks "win" in that case too. You just have to check African governments.

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