Police may not be guilty in the death of George Floyd
Very compelling arguments in this piece.
https://medium.com/@gavrilodavid/why-derek-chauvin-may-get-off-his-murder-charge-2e2ad8d0911
Same with the Atlanta shooting. Since the subject had the taser he easily could have tased the officers followed by grabbing a firearm. Both of these cases could have been avoided if the subjects had cooperated with the police...not resisted! As far as the taser goes, it can be a deadly weapon if used by untrained people.
The Atlanta mayor did her city no good. She had to know what was coming when she espoused BLM’s cause which resulted in another case of anarchy! Look at the video again and notice the cop directly following the subject became unbalanced when he was shot with the taser from the subject. What if the taser had been set to the highest point? We easily could have had 2 more executed cops!
BTW, the subject wasn’t innocent...he was drunk and also had taken several drugs. The taser became a weapon in his hands. He may be dead and by being so, more lives were saved by him not being on the road behind a wheel. Good riddance!
The Atlanta shooting was justified.
shareI just don't understand why anyone thinks resisting arrest is a good idea.
shareEspecially the Atlanta guy - he was already recorded on the police bodycams and had provided his ID. Even if he got away, he's not getting away.
shareExactly!
The cop should have let him go and captured him later or just put a bullet in his leg.
Let him go to wipe out a family...could be your family? Then let the lawsuits begin! “The cops had him! He was drunk and on drugs, but the cops let him go to kill my family!”
No, you don’t let a drunk driver go, especially one that has grabbed what possibly could have been a lethal weapon. Resisting arrest is a crime. Too many times suspects who have resisted arrest have managed to grab a cop’s weapon. It was a good shoot. Look at the video again. When the suspect fired the taser it affected the officer chasing him.
Again...it was a good shoot. Talk to someone who has lost a loved due to a drunk driver!
They had his car and he dropped the taser.
He was probably running home scared . They could have arrested him there.
Two shots n the back is far from a “good shoot”
How do you know he dropped the taser? If he did and was fleeing, the cop was in the wrong. Split seconds are in play here. Did he drop the taser after tasing the officer? Did the officer shoot while the suspect still had the taser and was turning his back?
share...the cop was in the wrong.
He most definitely was, kap. The third bullet struck a car containing children. He was endangering the public he had sworn to protect.
A press conference is scheduled for 3PM, EDT today, announcing whether or not there will be criminal charges filed. share
But, Mr. Brooks didn’t drop the taser. The officer was tased therefore Mr. Brooks assaulted a police officer. If Mr. Brooks had been able to abscond with the taser he could have used it as a lethal weapon. He could have set it to the highest point.
shareAnd a child in that car could have died if the bullet had struck a couple of feet higher.
shareYes, I agree...there’s always a chance some innocent could be caught in the crossfire. What to do? Split second decisions! Would you feel differently if the suspect had grabbed the cop’s gun? Or would you let him run off and possibly shoot others with a cop’s weapon after he executed the two cops. Split second decisions. Monday morning quarterbacking...
shareYes, we can entertain "what ifs" all day. In this particular split second decision, public safety should have overridden his desire for revenge for having been overpowered.
We shall see how the powers that be agree or disagree with us in a couple of hours.
Yeah, you’re most likely correct, but do you really believe it was revenge? I don’t believe the officer would have shot him if he had run away empty handed. It was after the officer was tased. I suppose the best thing to have done was to have cordoned off the area with their police cruisers. This happenstance is akin to police chasing a suspect at a high rate of speed. Too many variables. Too many chances of collateral damage. Every time I use the word collateral damage I recall Timmothy McVeigh saying just that when he was informed of how many children and babies were murdered in the bombing! Damn him to hell!
When you think about it both the Floyd case and the Brooks case had the ball in their courts. They both exacerbated their deaths by not co-operating, by resisting arrest. Granted the cop who murdered Floyd should have been terminated long before this incident. Floyd was fighting them in the car! Brooks attacked two police officers! They decided to fight instead of going along with the orders given to them. The adrenalin is running and is taking over the correct procedures.
I believe a tenet of police reform should be Black cops deal with black suspects. White cops should deal with white suspects. Today I hear
That officer was incensed, reported to have exclaimed twice, "He took my F***** taser!" So yes, I think a wounded ego was a factor, along with anger and adrenaline. He also had a previous incident of excessive force with a firearm on his record. I just get the impression he was one of those trigger happy cops, just looking for an excuse to use his gun on someone. A cop doesn't fire three shots at someone's backside with the intention of just trying to stop that person.
Also, as usual with these things, the press conference is already a half hour late.
Fascinating press conference. 11 charges, felony murder at the top. Two aggravated assault charges for hitting the vehicle I mentioned previously. The other cop has turned state's witness, admitting he was standing on Brooks' shoulders after he was shot and down.
shareFelony murder? Wow! More came out we hadn’t known about. Two cops with bad records who should not have been on the force. I wouldn’t be surprised if the cop in the Brooks case “ate” his weapon! Life in prison or the death penalty? From this day forward nothing good for him. Either sentence will will put him into isolation for life.
The onus is not only on the cops, but also on the police departments who retained the two cops from the Floyd and now the Brooks case. I still say if the suspects had not resisted arrest they would be alive. It took their deaths to rid ourselves of two bad cops. Due to this there is a target on every cop’s back.
It also opened the door for those who don’t want to be arrested to fight like hell and over power the police officers. It won’t matter what the suspect has done, rape, assault, murder, robbery, etc. the suspect will be free to go! There will be no way to stop them! Law enforcement is already being told to stand down. The scumbag thugs who are rioting, looting, burning, killing are free to do what they wish without compunction. They aren’t going to be held accountable for their crimes. We realized that from the Ferguson & Baltimore destruction. We have turned into a nation of lawlessness!
The solution from the numb skulls? Defund the police! What a grand idea! Come to think of it...why not? They aren’t permitted to do their jobs as it is! Being a cop nowadays is nothing more than being a glorified security guard.
I wouldn't be surprised if the cop in the Brooks case "ate" his weapon!
At the very least, he's "sweating bullets". Couldn't resist that dark pun, kap.
I see this as a measure of justice in the right direction. I do agree with you that in the wake of all this, it's a green light for many to indulge in lawlessness. Crime rates are up, cops are resigning in despair. One can only wonder with some angst where this current trend is going to lead us. share
There will be blood. The rise of the skin heads, Neo- NAZIS. What’s that new group, boogaloos? It’s like we are going backwards. I despise them as much as I despise the BLM thugs!
And because lawlessness will be increased, the love of many will grow cold.
As in the days of Noah...
Don't judge this too quickly kspkap. Did you watch the entire video? The media is spewing lies again. They can't breathe without it.
This punk was no angel. The cops did their job.
Here's Brooks' rap sheet.
https://tbdailynews.com/media-portrays-rayshard-brooks-as-loving-father-despite-criminal-charges-of-cruelty-to-children-battery-on-family-member-false-imprisonment/
You know it. And I know it. But, the rap sheets don’t mean a thing to people who see a white cop kill a black perp. Floyd was made out to be a martyr world wide. (My God! A gold plated coffin! A funeral befitting a head of state!) Same with Brooks. 99.9 % of the time when cops have to deal with people who resisted & reacted the way these two did...they are bad apples! A line of thought:chances are when dealing with people like this...they are already “on the board”! The white people who wish to be cops need to think twice, better yet...thrice before making that decision. There is a war against law enforcement of all types. Hire only Black cops! Hire only Black Ice agents. Hire only Blacks for Swat, etc. Let the courts work it out.
shareI watched the video again. He didn’t drop the taser until after he was shot. Also, look at the officer who was tased...he fell against the car.
shareDrunk driver Brooks was a danger to the cops and society. If he got away with the taser, he could have ambushed somebody with it. He already attacked the two cops and would do it again if he could get away. Tennessee vs Garner Supreme Court case allows cops to shoot a fleeing suspect in the back if they are deemed to be a danger to the cops or society. It's unfortunate that the dangerous drunk driver died but I would vote to acquit the cop of any charges. The cop needs to sue the city and collect millions for wrongful termination.
shareThat’s exactly what I’ve been attempting to get across, but others apparently don’t agree with me. I felt like after the perp tased the cop it was a justified shooting. 🤷🏼♀️ To be charged with felony murder the officials had to have some compelling evidence. To stand on on the perp’s shoulder after he was shot was not a good thing.
shareThere are lots of fugitives that are identified but not in custody. They tend to hide and continue to commit crimes until they get caught.
shareExactly if you resist arrest then you're asking for something bad to happen.
shareBecause if you're black you can resist arrest and assault officers and then cry racism and sue the police department for defending themselves.
shareGot to disagree with you on this one , kap.
A presumed drunk driver gets shot in the back twice, killed while running from cops, when a convicted cop killer, having done the same thing, gets to live on the taxpayer's dime for the remainder of his life. I just don't see the scales of justice balancing here.
https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/new-york-prison-escape/trooper-had-law-his-side-when-he-shot-unarmed-escapee-n383981
Hey db,
Hope all is well. It’s late so would mind explaining a little bit more? The way I see it the cop murderer should have got his just due...right between the eyes!
The Atlanta shooting was a good shoot. The cops were fortunate it wasn’t a gun he grabbed.